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Title: With no new evidence, Fox continues to ask: Did al Qaeda burn California?
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Fox_h ... plotted_fires_theory_1025.html
Published: Oct 25, 2007
Author: David Edwards and Nick Juliano
Post Date: 2007-10-25 17:28:30 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 380
Comments: 12

With no new evidence, Fox continues to ask: Did al Qaeda burn California?

David Edwards and Nick Juliano

Published: Thursday October 25, 2007

For the second straight day, Fox News stood virtually alone in advancing thinly supported speculation to raise fears that the wildfires ravaging California are not the result of a confluence of arid heat and high winds but were set deliberately by al Qaeda terrorists bent on destroying America.

Fox & Friends, the conservative cable channel, was panned Wednesday for breathlessly reporting a sketchy, four-year-old FBI memo as if it offered new information linking America's enemies in the "Global War on Terror" with a plot to burn down southern California.

The morning team was back at it Thursday, as anchor Alisyn Camerota introduced a segment on the fires that again mischaracterized and over-inflated warnings from a 2003 interview with an al Qaeda detainee.

Camerota said Fox's fear-mongering was "based on some information the FBI sent to local law enforcement in California and other Western states ... that there was a plot afoot to set three or four different" fires. Left unsaid by the Fox news-reader was that the FBI warning was sent more than four years ago, described a potential plot that made no mention of California, could not be proven accurate and did not raise alarms from forrest-fire officials at the time. (Such caveats all were included in an Associated Press report on the warning at the time.)

"How do they determine what's arson and what's terrorism?" she asked, noting accurately that authorities believe arsonists were responsible for at least "some of these fires." (Authorities say arson has been shown to have caused only two of more than a dozen fires so far.)

Terror analyst Erick Stakelbeck served as Camerota's foil in boosting the terror fears. Although he did clarify that the FBI memo was from 2003, the vintage of the intelligence didn't squelch his terror speculation; Stakelbeck warned that the fires appeared to be the result of a "coordinated effort ... over a large area."

"In a post-9/11 world, we have to consider all possibilities," Stakelbeck intoned.

Even if al Qaeda isn't involved -- and no one but Fox seems to be seriously suggesting they were -- the fires are still an example of "domestic terrorism," Stakelbeck said, although he was sure to note that law enforcement would be checking to see if arson suspects in custody fit the "terrorist profile."

Whoever is responsible for the fires, Stakelbeck couldn't help but note the ease with which such devastation can be wreaked with just some matches, kerosene and dry brush:

"What a cost-effective means of terrorism," he marveled.

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#1. To: aristeides (#0)

I think Blackwater started all 20 of them, certainly this one.

Blackwater's Base and the California Wildfires
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=64714&Disp=0
news broke of a huge fire moving towards Potrero.

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robin  posted on  2007-10-25   17:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-25   17:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#0)

personally, I think ahmadinejad did it. fox is slipping, promoting the war we're aleady in.

kiki  posted on  2007-10-25   17:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#0)

Having trouble keeping their lies straight? I thought they were blaming Iran for everything this week.

" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-10-25   17:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: kiki (#3)

personally, I think ahmadinejad did it. fox is slipping, promoting the war we're aleady in.

My thoughts exactly, lol. Kinda makes me want to tune in just to see if they'll blame Hillary.

" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-10-25   17:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: kiki (#3)

personally, I think ahmadinejad did it. fox is slipping, promoting the war we're aleady in.

LOL! good one, kiki.

christine  posted on  2007-10-25   17:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#0)

The unseen Golbergian enemy- "Al Qaeda". Can strike anywhere at anytime- they can even take the form of Americans or latin Americans acting in their pay. There is no end to their evil. From spreading West Nile Virus, to throwing wrenches in threshers to disrupt the record breaking harvests . . . to hacking Wall Street to destroy the economy to selling adjustable rate mortages by the hundreds of thousands to morons (most Americans) to destabalize our lending institutions . . . "Al Qaeda" is everywhere and nowhere. You can't see them- but the gubmint can. They uncover the plots- publicize them and then wisk the suspects away to dungeons so they can't infect our minds with their defense lawyer double talk!

Thank you DC and Fox News- for alerting the citzenry to the vile nature of the evil within our borders- that I guess the war in Iraq isn't stopping.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-10-25   19:22:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Burkeman1 (#7)

Anything that isn't the fault of Al Qaeda or El Nino is the fault of the "blame America first" crowd. Or Ron Paul's cyber army of internet people. Right?

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-25   20:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Burkeman1 (#7)

I read your comments all the time, Burkeman. Keep them coming.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-10-25   21:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Burkeman1 (#7)

These effers are making Iran our mortal enemy. It's scary how they get away with it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-10-25   21:06:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fred Mertz (#10)

The funny thing is that you couldn't find two Iranians living in Iran now, regardless of their political opinion, who would support the US against their own country. Even if the US had "good intentions" and really did want to "help" most Iranians would resist. But given the fact that the US has done nothing but cause abject misery for millions of Iranians for going on 50 years now they would resist to the last of them.

Of course Americans are so deluded and so unbelievably ignorant and self absorbed they think the world actually likes being bombed and invaded by the US. They actually think that the Iraqis attacking US troops now are "Al Qeada" and are motivated by "Islamic radicalism"- when the simple obvious reason is that the US has troops in their country and DC has nothing but the worst intentions for them. Iraqis have zero reason to think US intentions are good given the history of this country's self serving foreign policies and Iranians have even less of a reason to trust the US at all.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-10-25   22:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Burkeman1 (#11)

It is like Ahmahjinedad says, it isn't the people, it's the ruling class/government he has problems with. And so do I.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-10-25   22:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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