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Title: The True Smoking Gun Aint Wtc7, and it isnt the Pentagon hole, or NORAD (Some theories and open source paper trails)
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URL Source: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_C ... orum/index.php?showtopic=17310
Published: Oct 26, 2007
Author: 8bitagent
Post Date: 2007-10-26 07:28:43 by Kamala
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The True Smoking Gun Aint Wtc7, and it isnt the Pentagon hole, or NORAD

No, in my 2 and a half years of exhaustive 9/11 research, the red hot smoking gun of 9/11 being something far more sinister than "Osama from a cave did 9/11"

is...

Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi.

That's right, with truthers fumbling over themselves, getting into endless tiring circular debates with debunkers over "melting points", "free fall", "pentagon diameters", and truly bogus claims like "fatty Osama" and "Hijackers Alive!"...

for *real* serious 9/11 researchers, the smoking guns were always the origins of the hijackers and the funding.

So who is Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi?

They were nothing short of Saudi Arabian General Intelligence Directive agents carefully monitored by the Pentagon, CIA whose every move was tracked as they were placed in one FBI/CIA safehouse in America to the next.

The secret behind who these two 9/11 hijackers are is so dangerous, people have been taken out Livetenko style for trying to get at the truth.

I know, I know...Im a disinfo shill because *gasp* I believe al Qaeda hijackers took over the plane, and *gasp* al Qaeda and Arab extremists were all over the 9/11 operation.

What you may NOT realize is that Wahabist jihadists have always been the proxy tools of the global elite out of Europe to do their dirty work. Hitler and the Muslim Brotherhood to the Soviet Afghan war.

You want shocking? The Pentagon and CIA PMC's were fighting right alongside al Qaeda fighters weeks before 9/11 in Macedonia.

Most people dont realize that most if not all the 9/11 hijackers were meant to fight in Bosnia and Chechnya. The heads of al Qaeda were obsessed with fighting the Russians in Chechnya and Serbs in Kosovo/Albania/Macedonia/etc.

So what is the smoking gun of 9/11?

Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi *were* Saudi intelligence agents. The CIA had filmed them at a January 2000 Malaysian meeting. But conveniently never reported them to the FAA or anyone.

No, in fact Saudi intelligence placed them with a top FBI informant in San Diego(whose terror funding partner rented out the house to Heavens Gate death cult in 1997)

And what happened? Saudi princess Haifa and other top Saudi financiers sent the two 9/11 hijackers staying with Abusattar Sheikh(who had a bogus teaching credential and was a total intelligence asset for the FBI and CIA) a bunch of checks.

And then what happened?

Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi got sent to ANOTHER FBI informant safehouse, this time in Shrieveport, Louisiana. It was here that they continued the 9/11 operations with a protected FBI asset from Pakistan named Mr Jamal.

Nawaf then goes off with other hijackers to Maryland, Almidhar goes off to New York.

But then, Nawaf is found in Oklahoma, *gasp* not far from where most likely the FBI was doing a sting operation involving Zacharius Moussaoui and other hijackers. Relating quite possibly to Nick Berg

The hijackers have a fun filled coke snorting hooker time in Vegas, possibly meeting with other CIA/FBI handlers posing as Muslim extremists,

then its back down to Florida where a lot of them are safehoused by the owners of the Sun Tabloid who would coincidentally get attacked by Anthrax. The Sun Tabloid provides one of the main safehouses for the 9/11 hijackers.

Funny, that Pentagon's Able Danger had been tracking Mohammed Atta and the hijackers...Atta, who clearly was being helped by CIA linked drug traffickers in Venice Florida.

Meanwhile Israeli Mossad is crawling all over the 9/11 hijackers in Florida and elsewhere at this point...living next door, monitoring them. The cover story is they are trying to warn the CIA about the imminent threat.

The ruse to ALL this is of course that HONEST FBI agents were told to shut up, and never mind these hijackers.

The good portion of the FBI knew what was going on. Higher ups were surpressing them from going after well protected hijackers. The same hijackers allowed to have falsified Visas from Saudi Arabia thru the Visa express program.

All the other stuff is important, but merely sprinkles on the cake.

British MI6/ISI operative Omar Saeed was used to train the hijackers and be the Pakistani Intelligence fallboy scapegoat money middle man.

Top Dubai officials, Dubai banks, Omar Saeed, Saudi Royals, and Ali Abdul Aziz Ali all helped with the financial aspect of 9/11, providing the "strict muslims" with all the money they needed to snort coke and sleep with prostitutes.

Remember, Dubai is where ALL the money got conduited and funnelled through, some of it through Standard Charter Bank housed in the WTC7 from the Dubai headquarters

Pakistani Intelligence controlled Khalid Shaek Mohammed and Ramzi bin Alshibh.

Israeli Mossad and spies had infiltrated the plot and were busy compromising government buildings and telecommunications through Comverse-Odigo.

US government/al Qaeda tech firm P-tech had infiltrated FAA computers and rendered them crippled on 9/11.

MI6 protected Mohammed Zammar helps get together the young Muslims to be part of the Hamberg Cell.

Israeli security ran all the security at the airports, including even where Richard Reid would try and pull his shenanigans.

Advanced AI software within the twin towers had crippled networks and used them as slave networks for deep data security holes.

If there was sabotaging of the twin towers, it came from Memphis terrorists posing as mechanical fixit men who had sprinkler maintanence passes in both towers the week before 9/11. Effectively rendering the sprinklers useless

The exact floors where Flight 11 and Flight 175 hit respectively were reported to have been packed wall to wall with giant servers and black computer data boxes in Fuji Bank and Marsh and Mclennan...funny, as this is where the foundry of thermate comes rushing out on video.

Possibly where the guidance system beacons were that helped navigate the planes in after the hijackers got control?

And you guys want to know WHY Top Pentagon brass cancelled their flight to NYC the day before 9/11?

Its because the secret service became aware of a Sudanese national plot to kill Bush and launch an attack the night before 9/11. Hours later at 6am in Florida a white van of "Arab" looking men approached Bush wanting to do an interview during his jog...you know, because 2 days after ISI agents blew up the Northern Alliance leader in Afghanistan after "just wanting an interview". Incidentally, these same "Arab looking men driving white vans" would be used in another aspect of 9/11 in NYC and NJ(Mossad) Also, two of the 9/11 hijackers were staying just a couple miles from Bush 2 days prior to 9/11, where Bush had missile batteries set up on his hotel roof, snipers everywhere and Coast Guard patrol boats.

Whoah, thats a lot of security...but lo and behold, they sure kept him in the classroom reading My Pet Goat, even tho he clearly in danger of an assassination.

Bush would be flown to Offut AFB in Nebraska after the White house claims a "high level threat penetrated the government saying Angel is Next, code for shooting down air force one". Aw, time to send Bush to Offut for more Manchurian Candidate programming?

And so there you have 9/11.


A borderless supra national octopus able to tap into and use Saudi GID, Pakistani ISI, CIA, FBI, Mossad, MI6, the FAA, super computers, Dubai banks, Dubai royals, Saudi Jeddah immigration consulate, etc

And who came up with the plans for 9/11?

Well in 1992 a German couple convinced Mohammed Atta to come be part of a special US/German elite program called "CDG", short for Carl Duisberg Gesellschaft. (named after the man who ran Bayer, the company used to bring the world the Holocaust and AIDS, respectively) Well Atta soon became the main star of CDG.

And lo and behold, Atta's closest pal in America is a CIA linked drug runner named Wolfgang Bohringer involved in neo Nazi pilot flying clubs.

And who is one of the main people behind the CDG exchange program?

Oh, why our old buddy, David Rockefeller.

The creator of the Twin Towers, who along with the Bin Laden Construction group brought us the World Trade Center in the early 70's...

and destroyed it a few decades later.

with the ONE man who created the entire modern Osama al Qaeda meme, FBI agent John Oneil...dead in the north tower weeks after quitting the FBI because he felt they were purposefully allowing al Qaeda to operate.

All for the globalist new world order, the only entity that could be patient and cunning enough to put this whole sick nightmare into place.


Because nothing stays secret for long. All of this information is on the backpage or in international news or wherever, but truthers are so focused on this very sterile cartoonish "Bush and Cheney and robot planes and missiles did 9/11, Osama was framed" idea...they miss the big blues that truthers ignore or may not know about.

I mean just recently it came out that the Lockerbie 1988 bombing was a total set up scam, that Mossad was behind the infamous Entebbe terror event, etc

But noone talks about this stuff or pays attention.

I'm merely cutting through the noise and disinfo and pointing out what many people have known all along.

How many people know that the hijacker's weapons were preplaced underneath their seats, and they had guns and bombs to use? That was reported in MSNBC and Time.

Or how about the FAA destroying the hijacker-FAA communication tapes?


You folks want a bush connection? Try Riggs bank. Ran by Bush's uncle, it was shut down for being one of the go betweens between the Saudi royal funders and the 9/11 hijackers, among other criminal schemes.

And hasnt it occured to MORE debunkers that Mohammed Atta was INTENTIONALLY trying to make as much noise as possible in the USA? I mean Atta lands in America and first thing he does "hey, Im looking to rent your cropdusters! Im a pilot...for Osama! hahaha!" He and other hijackers go out of their way to blow all their Arab state/western intelligence slush funds on hookers, coke. getting drunk, and being stupid.

"But, but they were Taqfir adepts of Wahabism, it means they needed to blend into America by doing these things" the debunkers will say. Uh, yeah thats not exactly being under the radar.

Check this out folks..Mohammed Atta and others are staying at a safehouse provided by the Sun Tabloid, linked to the CIA but still hit with anthrax.

Atta and a pal were staying a MILE from Bush in Sarastota. And WHAT does Atta do?

What does he do?

He takes an impromptu flight to Portland Maine! WTF? Why? Why risk it?

To meet with his intelligence handlers, thats why. Its something even the paid 9/11 investigators are scared to talk about.

He then takes a puddle jumper cessna to Boston, rents a car...THEN gets into an almost physical confrontation with a man outside the airport just MINUTES before his 9/11 flight.

THEN he *barely* makes it...and what do investigators find?

His duffle bag mysteriously not on the plane, with a Q'uran, boxcutters, pilot outfit, terror training manual, list of the 19 hijackers, a will and flight sim games. They'd find the same in his rented car, and other hijackers dufflebags(they were checked in, why didnt they make it on the plane?)

I mean come on. How bout we all take a trip to Shuckums bar in Florida and find out the REAL truth of Mohammed Atta?

Hey we can all go to Supermax in Colorodo, and talk to both Zacharius Moussaoui and Terry Nichols and find out that government provocatueres were handling both of them in Norman Oklahoma.

I respect Loose Change, Alex Jone's documentaries, and all the hard working people out there...

But come on, the REAL path of 9/11...not the ABC Path To 9/11, not the Liberal "it was all incompetence", and certainly not the focus on drones/missiles IS out there.

The nwo globalist perps behind 9/11 prefer people stick to circular debates. They want people to stick to arguing, and pointless inquiries.

Why? Because the arteries that pumped the blood of 9/11 will never, ever be uncovered that way.

The real story of 9/11 is a thousand times more "sexy" and upsetting and disturbing than the "cheney did it, missiles, drones, etc" meme, its just more tedious and complex and absolutely able to prove.


I'd say 90% of the real truth of 9/11 is provable through legit sources, online mainstream news articles, analysis, etc.

The other 10% is a bit too dangerous and hot to handle.

Keep in mind that the modern architect post Brzezinski of al Qaeda was an Egyptian named Ali Mohammed, a Special Forces/FBI/CIA guy who is the one who convinced Osama to be a super villian, created everything the media claims is related to al Qaeda(training manuals, training camps, etc) and is the architect of the 1998 embassy attacks.

And where is he? Under witness protection.

Has anyone ever wondered WHY there has not been a 9/11 trial?

Theres only been three:

The first two ended in releasing two of the Hamberg plotters in Germany and Spain

The third was Zacharius Moussaoui, a big embarassment for the government as it was revealed that Moussaoui was under an FBI sting operation. Whoops. Sounds like WTC 1993 all over again.

Debunkers, you have to ask yourself: what is the real reason Osama and Dr Ayman Zawahiri havent been caught/killed, and why were top al Qaeda men like Ali Mohammed, Abu Hamza, Haroon Aswat, Mohammed Zammar, etc allowed to run around free? Despite being under surveilence, or worse...intelligence assets.

Wolfgang Bohringer was a total scumbag. He has a long history of drug smuggling, being a part of neo Nazi flying clubs in Germany, and working as an informant operative for the CIA

So why would a Muslim fanatic like Mohammed Atta spend so much time with him and other European nationalist criminals in Florida? Jack Abramhoff's mafia ran Sun Cruz casino boat anyone?

My research has shown that so many people from around the globe had a hand in the 9/11 pie, that it will take some deep unravelling to yank on that Jack and the beanstalk yarn to see where 9/11 REALLY leads...and I guarantee it leads not to Osama or Dick Cheney but someplace much higher...much deeper. Much more, upsetting.

Heres all about Atta's best friend, Wolfgang Bohringer: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BJovIhNrmE

Aw, I had forgotten to mention Able Danger.

"Third source back claims of Able Danger identifying Atta" www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167130,00.html

Wasnt Able danger monitoring Atta, al-Midhar and al-Hamzi? These seem to be three candidates of being double agents or moles

As for Khalid's funding or credit cards or whatever being used post 9/11...

I guess it's possible he somehow ducked out of the flight and went abroad

Or, his funding was used by other criminals involved

Or they had stolen identities

Im just saying, that the hijackers the government has told us hijacked the planes; at least several seemed to have been clearly intelligence assets.

Incidentally, several of the hijackers live right next door to the WAMY terror funding charity ran by one of the men who was on the Richard Clarke bin laden flight on sept 13th

ANOTHER top saudi official was staying in the same hotel as 3 of the hijackers the night before 911 www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A...anguage=printer

A pakistani man who did a 250 million dollar money deal with Osama's bank account in 2000 that he shared with him... was on the flight

www.cooperativeresearch.org/context...m=a091301flight

and then we find out some of the people on board those flights were killed not long after in various shootings

I think a lot of the hijackers were brainwashed with mind control, used on them at the al Qud mosque in Hamberg Germany and by intelligence linked assets.


I present the 3rd video on this page for evidence: www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/front/view/

It's clear the young hijacker accompanying Atta to Logan was scared and didnt know it would be a kamikaze mission.

Atta even says "we have some planes" and then says that they'll land the plane.

I think they were willing dupes. Al Qaeda was a willing participant in a way, even tho its rogue intelligence in the Arab and Western world puppeteering people like Khalid Mohammed.

I think Mohammed Atta was clearly a mole, or agent meeting with European and intelligence handlers in both Maine, Vegas and Florida.

Nawaf and Khalid were definately Saudi intelligence.

My view is that they hijacked the planes, put in the coordinance their handlers told them, and boom. in the planes went, perhaps...even matching up to a prepositioned guidance beacon in the north and south tower, and pentagon respectively.

Who knows

I dont believe Flight 93 was shot down. Maybe a bomb went off.

I do know the hijackers had guns and bombs, preplanted under the seats.

And the first victim of 9/11 was a high level anti terrorist skyjacking commando from Israel who ran high technology firms named Daniel Lewin


9/11 is not a simple "mihop", "lihop" or "incompetence" meme as some think, it fact it gets REAL complex(like, the real reason John Oneil was killed, and it has everything to do with Saudi and intelligence backdoor stuff)

So many complex layer, I understand why its easier for people to shut off the brain and say "pffft, what al Qaeda? what hijackers?" This stuff takes work, hard work. And ya really have to have some sort of an open minded and patience toward seeing the big picture in how these arteries were set up during and after WW2 thru the Balkans, Egypt, Afghanistan, etc.

Its more complex than "al CIAda"...but yes, none of these groups would be able to do a thing without being guided behind the scenes covertly and overtly mixing with Saudi and Pakistani financing.

I'll tell ya, even high paid official investigators are scared to where a lot of 9/11 stuff leads, and theres a big reason the 9/11 commission skips over the era of the Balkans, Chechnya, Afghanistan circa 80's, Brooklyn in the early 90's, and Arab state financing.

Of course 9/11 and what lead to it and what spirals from it is much bigger than that. Even an Arizona bootleg cigarette cartel in 2000/2001 racketeering scheme had to do with 9/11, as 9/11 was deeper than a national security apparatus or "Islamic terrorists"

I can tell people this much. Ramzi Yousef, Khalid Mohammed, Mohammed Atta, and Osama definatley did not dream up the "planes flying into buildings" or 9/11 operation.

The seeds and planning for 9/11 was very long, patient and criss crosses across the globe into areas most would not know how to contextualize.

Who Killed John O'neil was onto something...but only a tiny fraction of the story.

John O'neil was the sacrifcial lamb in this tragic story.

A lot of 9/11 goes back to the Clinton administration, which I know people dont want to hear.

Prior knowlege? Oh its a little more than prior knowlege

Some of the 9/11 hijackers were jihadists under CIA front groups sponsoring Bosnian fighters against the Serbs as late as 1999.

It goes back to the WTC 1993 when Mossad, ISI, and FBI all had informants and moles in that operation

9/11 has just as much to do with global corporations and drug running as it does with "tower implosions".

Please point where where I say theres no prior knowlege? Even the braindead Democrats and Republicans who think "Osama did it" say theres forknowlege

9/11 is bigger than the typical "inside job" meme, and I wish people would do their own research instead of just parroting redundant talking points they read from sites.

The attack on Pakistan is clearly an "inside job" because Pakistani ISI controls all the terrorism in Pakistan, and elsewhere for the most part.

If you guys want Bush involvement, look no further than Riggs bank: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riggs_Bank#Sa...money_transfers

While I dont think Bush was "in" on anything, or had any foreknowlege...

Consider the fact that Bush had anti plane missiles set up on his hotel roof, snipers and patrol boats the day before 9/11 because of credible threats given to them from Sudanse nations and other "chatter"...and THEN 2 days after ISI blows up the head of Northern Alliance by posing as tv reporters, a van carrying four "Arab looking" men(Mossad?) comes up and asks to interview Bush as hes jogging at 6:05 AM in Florida the morning of 9/11.

So by keeping him in the classroom, and saying to themselves "theres no threat", is a big lie. Full story about the assassination attempt on 9/11 www.madcowprod.com/09272007a.html

We all know there's something not right about the truth of John O'neil, Mohammed Atta, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed(cough ISI cough), Omar Saeed aka "Mustafa Ahmed"(MI6/ISI) etc

Hell John O'neil appears to have been killed and merely placed in the towers, and Who Killed John Oneil may be onto something with their ideas

What I do know is that the REAL evil Arabs are the elites of Qatar, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc because they are not just new world order, they are in bed with the US government, england and the rest of the globalist scum waging war on humanity.

The truth, while complex, of the deep corporate financial ties of corporations, front companies, drug running, arms smuggling, the Balkans, former soviet republics, Arab state banks and elites, state department officials, offshore accounts and "jihadist" terror networks is so intermingled...this supra national entity with no borders can tap into it.

"the US did 9/11"...as if the evildoers in office care about the US and are even part of the US...

People say Cheney did 9/11 and somehow the neocons masterminded 9/11?

How did the US get Israel, England, the UAE, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc to be a part of this operation? The only answer is that a force above all these is able to play a shell game.

Of course people get lazy and say "what Arabs? what hijackers?"

Never mind the CIA set up a VAST network in the US and abroad with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan in Brooklyn throughout the globe post 1989 to create proxy jihadist fighters that they used even up til 9/11.

In fact, weeks before 9/11 al Qaeda was FIGHTING WITH CIA spooks and Pentagon PMC's in Macedonia. That story got buried pretty quickly.

And most the intelligence, FBI, millitary dont even know about this, or they just have a small piece of the puzzle. I know someone whose an analyst in intelligence and is starting to see the research Ive done checks out...but its like one of those things of "what can you do?"

Very sad.

If you see whose behind the global arms, child sex kidnapping, drug smuggling, and terrorism as well as globalization slavery its all by what people call "the new world order"

Only when I say 9/11 was not an inside job, but an nwo job...I describe in detail *who* this nwo is.

And it has to do with shell company upon shell company and their proxy rogue agents and terror/drug runners doing the work of very prominent business men and corporations.

People think too much in terms of nation states and borders. Of course al Qaeda is state sponsored I tell people that say they are not, every terror group of any stature is allowed to do what they do because of state sponsoring.

Ok consider this:

Yasan al Qadi helped fund Ptech and BMI, as well as other companies. Hes a top al Qaeda financier and has had intimate dealings with both Saudi elites and al Qaeda leadership

Ptech's Promis like software was on most top government computers, including the FAA on 9/11 with backdoor compromising software

The FBI listed al Qadi as a top terror sponsor after 9/11, but the investigation into him and Ptech was HAULTED

Turns out, I kid you not, al Qadi is good friends with Dick Cheney. His other company BMI was used by 9/11 head Thomas Keane in New Jersey

And Moussaoui?

He was controlled and funded by a Malaysian al Qaeda top financier who funded Infocus. He also used his condo as the infamous Kuala Lampur meetings, and let Nawaf, Khalid and Moussaoui live there

Moussaoui was living with Menepta, who was Mcveigh's driver and WTC 1993 credit card funder. Moussaoio was living with other associates in Norman OK including Hussein al Attas, who drove him to Minnesota and was living with Menepta

Menepta showed Mcveigh and the Iraqi nations the Dreamland motel in 1995, where Mcveigh and company plotted. Six weeks before 9/11, Atta and Moussaoui INSISTED on meeting with the 9/11 hijackers at...the Dreamland motel.

Hussein al Attas was also living at the same apartment shared by Khalid and Nawaf al Hamzi ran by the top FBI informant Abdusattar Sheikh in San Diego where Atta also visited. Nawaf and Khalid were DIRECTLY funded by top Saudi government officials and elites. Checks being sent to that address. Moussaoui was being sent money by Ramzi bin alshidh. Mohammed Atta was being sent money by MI6/ISI Omar Saeed and ISI Generals. Nawaf and Khalid would then be moved to another FBI informant safehouse in Shreveport Louisiana

Mohammed Atta and company would be safehoused by the Sun Tabloid ownes, weeks before they were attacked by anthrax. Atta and company would frequent Jack Abramhoff's Sun Cruz mafia ran boat casino.

Now, think youre going to hear any of this in a "truther" film, no. Youre going to see endless youtube cobbled clips of "CD!" and Pentagon missiles

Again, Im not poo pooing those documentaries.

But lets face facts:

The CIA KNEW the Kuala Lampur Malaysian apartment was being used as an al Qaeda 9/11 plot house

The CIA WAS MONITORING Mohammed Atta and the Hamberg cell

and this CIA man, David Eder watching Atta would be moved to Oklahoma University and Norman Oklahoma under Tenet's best friend David Boren(president of OU) *right* when Nick Berg was used to provocatuer, with FBI informant Menepta, Moussaoui and company.

The London mosque's Abu Hamza was MI6, as was al Qud Hamberg mosque. This is where the hijackers got gathered.

The plans to bomb the WTC in 1993 came from high level government files, "stolen" by the CIA's Ali Mohammed and delivered to the FBI provocatuered Brooklyn cell.

THIS is how you prove WTC 1993, OKC and 9/11 were inside job false flags.


I think the following links will blow TRUE 9/11 truth seekers away:

The entire truth of 9/11 is contained in these articles

FBI involved in safe harboring two of the hijackers www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20071014221652399

Bush assassination planned on 9/11 www.madcowprod.com/09272007a.html

The Moussaoui-Nick Berg-Oklahoma City FBI sting operation www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=berg+...man&btnG=Search

Atta was Rockefeller CDG asset www.radiofreeamerika.com/Opinion/9-...20ELITE%20U.htm

Saudi intelligence involvement www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?C...umber=295787365

www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?C...=&vc=1&t=-1#Pos t295463160

full history of 9/11 www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html www.globalresearch.ca/articles/SCO410A.html

Deep saudi intelligence involvement:

www.911blogger.com/node/4878 forums.therandirhodesshow.com/lofiv...hp/t103601.html www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,...,846881,00.html www.storiesthatmatter.org/index.php...id=49&Itemid=29

Israeli spies and mossad involved in 9/11 www.cooperativeresearch.org/timelin...and_9/11=israel

KSM=ISI asset www.commondreams.org/views03/0303-05.htm

KSM killed in shootout in 2002: www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DJ30Df01.html

Sun tabloid hosted the hijackers before they got hit with anthrax: www.sptimes.com/News/101501/Worldan...nked_to_t.shtml

Fuji bank and Marsh and Mclenan filled with thermate www.zeitenschrift.net/news/sne-12207-911.ihtml


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#5. To: Kamala, Destro (#0)

Superlative. It's the very complexity of this piece that testifies to it's authenticity. What Danny Casolaro referred to as the Octopus, and Dan Hopsicker calls the Covert Op that Ate the World, and even Peter Dale Scott's writings on the topic.

And lest we forget, both French Intelligence and David Shales(?), ex-English spyman maintain that Mi6/CIA worked actively with AQ up until at least 1996, when they concocted a plan to kill Qaddafi. There's a reason why the USG would not allow anyone to investigate prior to 1996.

A piece like this is encouraging, even though the sheer volume of data makes it far easier to go for simpler theories.

This guy hits ALL the intersections leading upto the Attacks.

Brilliant.

Thanks for finding and posting.

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#10. To: swarthyguy (#5)

I was going to ping you. I knew you would like some of the info and links. Research and reading like this, takes a longer attention span. Sadly, most Americans are capable of just 10 second sound bites or clips.

Kamala  posted on  2007-10-26   18:25:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Kamala, aristeides, Fred_Mertz (#10)

No shit.

Covert ops by their very nature are lies within lies, cutouts, fake leads all leavened by PTB acting as those seeking the truth.

Yup, most are comfortable with 2 variations; 19 Lone Wolf Arab types or the all powerful omniscient Mossad.

The truth, as the piece above shows, is far more complex and convoluted.

Be that as it may, as with many coverups, it has worked.

We also forget how the hysteria over the Anthrax attacks in the immediate aftermath distracted everyone. In that time, lots of things were fixed.

For how a coverup can be conducted successfully, with only a few key people required in critical situations, check out a new book call SCORPION DOWN by Ed Offley, concerning the sinking of USS Scorpion nuclear sub in the Atlantic in the 60's.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-10-31   11:47:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: swarthyguy (#11)

SCORPION DOWN

Just put a hold on it at the library. Love sub books.

tom007  posted on  2007-10-31   20:31:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: tom007 (#20)

Watched the Enemy Below on TV the other night.

Still remember the visceral experience of watching DasBoot on a big screen when it was first released. Fiction, yes, but like a punch to the stomach.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-10-31   20:34:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: swarthyguy, *9-11*, Fred Mertz, aristeides, , *9-11* (#21)

Most 9/11 "theorists" dont want to acknowlege al Qaeda exists.

What they dont realize, is that at the top al Qaeda is controlled by the Arab and Western elites and corporations under the guise of drug running ops.

The Balkan conflict plays so heavily into the 9/11 story, its amazing noone talks about it.

You literally had the 9/11 hijackers living with a wide array of FBI informants, safehouses, and protected Islamic terror financiers/charities.

The charities that were Hamas/al Qaeda fronts like WAMY that FBI agents were told not to go near, were some of the people hosting and funding the attacks, along with Saudi-Dubai-Pakistani elites.

The whole WTC 1993 plot was a CIA setup through the MAK--al Kaifa refugee nexus in Brooklyn using Ali Mohammed and other agents. This was the beginning of the 9/11 operation.

Pretty much the 19 hijackers and financiers were hand picked over the course of 10 years, from 1991 til 2001.

In 1992 a German couple flies out to Cairo Egypt to convince a very young Mohammed Atta to come join the US/German elite government Rockefeller program "Carl Duizberg Society". In 1995 Atta is sending out all kinds of checks to Muslim terror bakeries, Balkan jihadists, etc.

Nawaf al Hamzi and Khalid Midhar were CIA protected Balkan fighters. Atta later would be used as a drug runner.

This is how 9/11 is proven to be a Western/Arab intelligence operation for supra national corporate means

PTECH IS THE smoking gun of 9/11.

If Ptech would have been exposed, the ENTIRE 9/11 operation would have been blown.

Everyone talks about Sibel, and yes she has some good info. But what Indira Singh has to say is beyond explosive. Yet noone knows about her

I urge every serious 9/11 truther to check out this video of government whistleblower Indira Singh.

She was a RISK manager for JP Morgan and DARPA, and after working to help people on 9/11 at ground zero...soon was uncovering a CIA-al Qaeda front company called PTech. What she goes in detail to talk about is one of the most explosive smoking guns of 9/11. You may remember she was one of the first WTC7 triage people to come forward about WTC7 countdowns.

pt 1

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...earch&plindex=0 pt 2

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8063173299566696388

and the most explosive radio interview about 9/11 youll ever hear: (Indira Singh talking about high level corporate technology, intelligence, etc involved in 9/11)

www.h- files.hraunfjord.org/Sweejak/singh_corbin_1.mp3

www.h- files.hraunfjord.org/Sweejak/..._corbin_1.2.mp3

www.h- files.hraunfjord.org/Sweejak/..._corbin_1.1.mp3

I want them to say "al Qaeda penetrated our networks"

Thats the cover story of Ali Mohammed, the 1993 WTC and 1998 African embassy mastermind

People focus on 9/11, not realizing almost ALL major terror events are connected to intelligence..7/7, 3/11, Bali, WTC 1993, USS Cole, African Embassy, etc.

When the white house got scared on 9/11/2001 after "ANGEL IS NEXT" made them think a high level penetration was going on, it shows how deep 9/11 runs

How deep?

Osama's main financier was Yassin al-Qadi. He created Ptech and BMI(Thomas Keane did a lot of business with BMI and bin Mafouz in 1994)

Well, just so happens Yassin al Qadi is good friends with Cheney, who pulled the plug on the FBI investigation into Ptech

FBI agent Robert Wright was chasing Yassin, when he discovered the darkest secret...

a secret Indira Singh was told not to look into further:

al Qaeda is financed by the same people working with the corporate millitary industrial complex. Ptech had their backdoor PROMIS compromising AI software on virtually every government system on 9/11. Including the FAA where they had a whole unit in the bottom floor. They were able to help coordinate the FAA/NORAD false radar shenanigans.

Ptech leads to the narco trafficking undercurrent that is one of the closest guarded secrets of 9/11. Drug money, and drug traffickers protected by the CIA were used for 9/11 and al Qaeda operations in the Balkans and Chechnya.

Folks, Ptech is the REAL WTC7, the real smoking gun that proves that Western corporate elites and Arab state sponsors of al Qaeda are working hand in glove to create a terror economy. The US government is controlled by supra national organizations.

Because Ptech, and other information Ive shown proves 100% that the Western and Arab global elites and corporations control "al Qaeda", are protected from the good guys in the FBI and CIA, and were behind 9/11.

They cant refute Ptech, protected hijackers, FBI informant provocatuers, etc

They cant explain why a protected FBI provocatuer instrumentally involved in WTC 1993, OKC 1995 and 9/11 is still on the loose.

Or why the mastermind of 1993 WTC, USS cole, 1998 Embassy attacks, or 7/7 are out free and about under protection

Or why FBI agents were told to back off from investigating the hijackers, flight schools, Saudi elite financiers of al Qaeda, or Osama himself.

So they just sit there and call us "twoofers" , "moonbats", "deniers"(even tho they are denying anyone besides Osama was involved)

Hell, I can prove that the plans and diagrams to blow up the twin towers in 1993 came from high level sources at Fort Bragg and even higher than that. And that evidence is from 1991 in the Rabi Khahne case.

Kamala  posted on  2007-11-04 07:08:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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