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Title: Syrian "Nukes"? Not So Fast... (Updated)
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Published: Oct 28, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-10-28 20:26:49 by tom007
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Syrian "Nukes"? Not So Fast... (Updated) By Noah Shachtman EmailOctober 27, 2007 | 10:09:00 AMCategories: Nukes Weapons_6002_crop So what did the Israelis really blow up in the Syrian desert last month? The conventional wisdom says it was a partially-built nuclear reactor, maybe constructed with North Korean help. Arms Control Wonk Jeffrey Lewis isn't so sure. The New York Times' Mark Mazzetti and Bill Broad have two very good stories on the suspect site in Syria — one placing the leaks about the site in context of Administration internal debates over North Korea; the other reporting on new satellite imagery showing that North Korea has wiped clean the site. I am sitting in an airport, but I thought a few points bear mentioning: * Syria has long expressed a desire to have a nuclear reactor; North Korea would probably sell a reactor if the price was right. On face, the story is not implausible. * The pictures showed a large building near a river. That’s about it. If the building was a reactor, it was very far from completion. Absent reliable human intelligence, I see nothing that conclusively demonstrates the building was a reactor although IAEA inspections would have been decisive on this point. * Assuming it was a reactor, it is much too early to make design determinations based on imagery. Overhead identifications of reactors can, and are, often wrong as they were in the cases of Baotou — a fuel fabrication facility in China mistaken for a plutonium production reactor — and the gigantic North Korean hole in the ground that is Kumchang-ri. Intelligence Community estimates of the size and type of the Yongbyon reactor, at a comparable stage, were incorrect. * The people leaking are those dissatisfied with US policy. “A sharp debate is under way in the Bush administration,” Mazetti and Helene Cooper reported, about “whether intelligence that Israel presented months ago to the White House … was conclusive enough to justify military action by Israel and a possible rethinking of American policy toward the two nations.” Obviously, that rethinking hasn’t happened yet. The people who lost that debate are leaking national security information, appealing to the press. That is precisely why Hoekstra (R-MI) and Ros-Lehtinen called for more information — this is about North Korea, not Syria. * We haven’t heard from the people who, as Mazetti and Cooper reported, were “cautious about fully endorsing Israeli warnings” or “remain unconvinced that a nascent Syrian nuclear program could pose an immediate threat.” They might have important information to add, were they willing to leak it. * Syria has wiped the site clean — a move that The Institute for Science and International Security's David Albright and Paul Brannan note “dramatically complicates any inspection of the facilities.” What ever Damascus may have been doing, we’re much less likely to know, now. One of the best reasons for pressing for inspections at the site, rather than bombing it, is to get answers to the questions about what the site was and how it got there. After Israeli bombed Osirak in 1981, Iraq simply continued its nuclear weapons program in secret. It was not the bombing of Osirak, but rather UN inspections, which eventually disarmed Saddam Hussein. In short, we don’t know what the site was, what (or who) survived the strike, and where it is now. -- Jeffrey Lewis, cross-posted at ArmsControlWonk.com UPDATE: Okay, now things are getting really weird. "The mystery surrounding the construction of what might have been a nuclear reactor in Syria deepened yesterday," according to the NYT, "when a company released a satellite photo showing that the main building was well under way in September 2003 — four years before Israeli jets bombed it." Syria_site_old_school_2 The long genesis is likely to raise questions about whether the Bush administration overlooked a nascent atomic threat in Syria while planning and executing a war in Iraq, which was later found to have no active nuclear program... In the time before the Iraq war, President Bush and his senior advisers sounded many alarms about Baghdad’s reconstituting its nuclear program. But they have never publicly discussed what many analysts say appears to have been a long-running nuclear effort next door. Yesterday independent analysts, examining the latest satellite image, suggested that work on the site might have begun around 2001, and the senior intelligence official agreed with that analysis. That early date is potentially significant in terms of North Korea’s suspected aid to Syria, suggesting that North Korea could have begun its assistance in the late 1990s... Jeffrey Lewis, an expert on nuclear proliferation at the New America Foundation in Washington, said it was surprising from the photos how little progress had been made at the site between 2003 and 2007. But Mr. Lewis said it was ironic that Syria might have been trying to build a nuclear program just as the United States was invading Iraq in the fear that Iraq was developing nuclear arms.
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
If a nuclear seeking bomb existed and were launched over the middle east it would immediately target "ISRAEL" ... the real violator of UN prohibitions against nukes.
"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins
The best thing that could happen to the United States, besides the complete destruction of Washington DC during a State of the Union address. With Israel out of the picture, the people of the middle east would go back to killing each other in their millenia old inter-tribal conflicts and forget all about the rest of the world.
Should be noted that Israel introduced nuclear weapons into the ME, now they want the US sons and daughters to assure that no one else in the region will have them. That way their expansionist policies can continue until they have the whpole region under their thumb. Just what God wants, I am sure.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
I get goose bumps just thinking about it every year.
"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins
I like the way you think. Perhaps Putin will comply, knowing the rest of us don't go along with the war drums of Empire.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition I'm always amused by the wide spread belief that the "peoples of the Middle East" have been living in a cauldron of unendeing violence since time immemorial and that somehow Western presence has stopped that violence or mitigated it. Actually- the Muslem world has had far longer stretches of peace than Europe has ever enjoyed by far. Christians are probably the world champs in killing each other. I imagine WWI alone has seen more Christians kill each other than Muslims killing Muslims in 1400 years. Europe is now enjoying the longest peace it has ever had in the last 2000 years. 50 whole years of not murdering each other. Big accomplishment. We should hardly be looking down our noses at Muslim violence which our governments have quite a strong hand in fomenting.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
#2. To: noone222 (#1)
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If a nuclear seeking bomb existed and were launched over the middle east it would immediately target "ISRAEL" ... the real violator of UN prohibitions against nukes.
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#4. To: Hayek Fan (#2)
The best thing that could happen to the Unied Statres, besides the complete destruction of Washington DC during a State of the Union address.
#5. To: Hayek Fan (#2)
The best thing that could happen to the United States, besides the complete destruction of Washington DC during a State of the Union address.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
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