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Title: Gen. Petraeus' Spokesman Denies Sending Angry Email -- Plot Thickens
Source: Editor & Publisher
URL Source: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/e ... .jsp?vnu_content_id=1003664994
Published: Oct 29, 2007
Author: Greg Mitchell
Post Date: 2007-10-30 11:05:23 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 251
Comments: 14

Gen. Petraeus' Spokesman Denies Sending Angry Email -- Plot Thickens

A critical email allegedly sent by a top U.S. military spokesman to a leading blogger this past weekend is starting to draw mainstream attention. But the colonel had sent an equally hot note to E&P in May defending the general -- without reading the report in question.

By Greg Mitchell

NEW YORK (October 29, 2007) -- A disturbing email allegedly sent by a top U.S. military spokesman to a leading blogger at Salon.com this past weekend is just starting to draw mainstream attention. Howard Kurtz at The Washington Post mentioned it today, for example. It requires a good deal of background information to fully appreciate it, so I will provide a link to Glenn Greenwald’s blog page at Salon where he offered extensive postings (and updates) Sunday and today about the email purportedly from Army Col. Steven Boylan. But E&P has its own correspondence from Boylan, and I want to focus on that.

The long and short of the Greenwald postings: For months the popular blogger -- a former attorney and author of the recent bestseller "A Tragic Legacy" -- has criticized the growing “politicization” of the military attached to Iraq, starting earlier this year and peaking around the appearance of Gen. David Petraeus before Congress (and the media) in September. This was even before William Safire declared, this past weekend, that the general ought to be considered as a running mate for a Republican candidate for president next year.

In the past, Greenwald had received, and printed, emails from Boylan, a public affairs officer and chief spokesman for Gen. Petraeus, denying this trend and/or defending the general. So when he received an angry email from Boylan yesterday, he posted much of it on his blog (and linked to the entire message), while asserting that the views and language in it proved his point about “politicization.”

Then it got really interesting. Boylan in another note to Greenwald seemed to deny that he wrote the email, while denouncing Greenwald for publishing it. But he did not state this clearly and refused to respond to Greenwald’s subsequent request for clarity. Meanwhile, various purported computer experts compared past and present emails from Boylan to Greenwald and suggested (to the latter) that they did seem to come from the same military email address. But no one was certain and, at the least, it raised troubling questions about someone "hijacking" the email account of Gen. Petraeus's chief spokesman.

E&P contacted Boylan for a clarification about the email. Late Monday night he (or someone claiming to be him) replied: "I am denying writing and sending it. I know from past experience with Mr. Greenwald that any email exchange with him would be posted to his site as well as there is no need to discuss anything with him. I would only contact him in response to anything he would directly send to me as he did in this case. I have not contacted Mr. Greenwald since this summer" -- until Greenwald asked him to confirm the Sunday email, when "I told him it was not mine and I did not send it."

You can catch the whole thing (surely Greenwald will soon respond to the above) at:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/index.html

***

Knowing that I had a brief exchange of emails with Boylan last spring, I went back and found them -- with the Boylan in them sounding an awful lot like the Boylan in the disputed email to Greenwald.

I had drawn Boylan’s attention with a May 9, 2007, column that followed an appearance by Gen. Petraeus, via a video feed from Baghdad, at the Associated Press annual meeting in New York, which I attended. This is what I wrote then: “Reporters should also ask Gen. David Petraeus, who is directing the ‘surge’ effort in Iraq, why he lied in responding to a reporter's question this week concerning widespread abuse by U.S. troops.”

A reporter on stage at the gathering asked about a U.S. Army Surgeon General study of over 1,300 troops in Iraq, released last week, which showed increasing mental stress -- and an alarming spillover into poor treatment of noncombatants. Petraeus, who said he had read the report, asserted that the survey showed that only a "small number" admitted they may have mistreated "detainees" -- a profoundly misleading statement.

Actually, the study found that at least 10% of U.S. forces reported that they had personally, and without cause, mistreated "noncombatants" (not detainees) through physical violence or damage to personal property.

The survey also noted that only 47% of the soldiers and 38% of marines agreed that noncombatants should be treated with dignity and respect. More than 40% said they backed torture in certain circumstances. Even worse, nearly one in five said that all noncombatants "should be treated as insurgents."

About 30% said their officers had not made it clear that they should not mistreat civilians.

Only 40% of American marines and 55% of soldiers in Iraq said they would report a fellow service member for killing or injuring an innocent Iraqi. “Of course, this only guarantees that it will happen again, and again,” I observed.

That sparked an email from Boylan in Baghdad the next day. “I found your latest column to be less than fair and as many editorials, lacking context,” he wrote. “I find it insulting that you would even consider saying that General Petraeus lied to the gathering during the AP hosted event Monday. Simply put, you are in error and as such you even pointed it out in your own column….

”Because you don't agree with his words, detainee vice [sic] civilians, you are saying that he has lied. I am not sure how you come to that conclusion that he has lied? Would you be willing to explain that? I assume you could disagree on what is a small number or it is that you don't like his choice of words by using detainee.

”I am pleased that you can offer such a misinformed opinion based on one-hour event.”

I wrote back to him: “Surely you understand the difference between a ‘detainee’ and a ’noncombatant.’ Presumably Petraeus does as well. He said he'd read the report, where it clearly stated that the actions carried out by the 10% were against civilians or their property and without cause.”

In other words, Petraeus was suggesting to the media – if not directly starting -- that it wasn’t so bad a problem because it was (presumably guilty enemy) prisoners who were mistreated, not run-of-the-mill civilians. I didn’t even raise the issue in my email to Boylan of whether 10% was an acceptable, or appalling, number of bad actors. Petraeus had called this a “small number.”

Anyway, Boylan wrote back right away: “Yes, I clearly know the difference between the two, however, it was clear that he was saying and thinking detainee when he made his statement. I have not read the report, but either way, to state that he lied is at a minimum disingenuous and at worst, flat wrong on your part without even asking the questions, but making unfounded assumptions. I expect better professionalism from someone of your position based on your publication.”

So Boylan, who admitted he had “not read the report,” did not let that stop him from lecturing me and defending the misuse of its contents by Petraeus, who said he did read the report. Petraeus, at least, faced facts a short time later, writing a letter to his troops refreshing their memories about the requirement that they not abuse friendlys.


Greg Mitchell (gmitchell@editorandpublisher.com) is editor. A collection of his columns on Iraq and the media will be published by Union Square Press in March.

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#14. To: aristeides (#0)

http://www.uoregon.edu/~pboothe1/iraq_emails/

[nc note: headers appear in columns in original]

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Deciphering the email headers to determine if the same person sent them both

Glenn Greenwald posted email headers from a discussion he was having where a person denied sending an email that Glenn received. The post about the email and denial are here:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/10/28/boylan/index.html

and the post where he gives email headers is here:
http://utdocuments.blogspot.com/2007/10/e-mail-headers-from-col-boylan-and-mnf.html

I have experience programming, in syadmin work, netops work, and have been studying the Internet in an effort to get a PhD in computer science. I'm pretty sure those emails came from the same person. My reasoning is explained below. The one unfortunate thing is that the email headers got a bit mangled when they were posted. I have attempted to unmangle them, and if I get a better copy of them, I will replace the old with the new.

Return-Path:
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on imap3.salon.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7
Received: from rich.salon.com (rich.salon.com [206.80.4.124]) by mailer.salon.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9SBFgrP024411 for ;
Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:15:43 -0700

Headers from the denial email

Return-Path:
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on imap3.salon.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7
Received: from rich.salon.com (rich.salon.com [206.80.4.124]) by mailer.salon.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l9SFwcx5001032 for ;
Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:58:38 -0700

The first chunk is not very interesting. As emails make their way from source to destination, each relay point adds on their own line. These lines all correspond to Salon internal stuff. The next chunk is where the action is.

Original Email Headers (cont'd)

Received: from 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil (02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil [214.13.200.111]) by rich.salon.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l9SBFSff004148 for
; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:15:36 -0700

Headers from the denial email (cont'd)

Received: from 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil (02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil [214.13.200.111]) by rich.salon.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l9SFwT1S017514 for
; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:58:33 -0700

These are the really important lines. This is where the handoff to Salon from 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil took place. Or, at least, it was a handoff from 214.13.200.111, which claims to be 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil - let's see if that claim holds up. Running the host command, designed for just such an occasion, we see:

$ host 214.13.200.111
111.200.13.214.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil.

and we see

$ host 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil
02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil has address 214.13.200.111

So now we know that a military computer, and the same one each time, was the computer that handed both these emails to Salon's system. Also note that the above lines are exactly the same except for the ESMTP id and timestamp - this small difference is because the headers are from two different emails sent at two different times, and the ESMTP id is unique for a given email. This is about as good as we can guarantee - subsequent lines depend on systems outside of Salon's audit purview. But looking at the following lines should still provide evidence.

In particular, radical differences in subsequent lines would be evidence that the military email system was compromised in some fashion, while them being largely similar indicates that that same person and machine sent all the emails.

Original Email Headers (cont'd)

Received: from INTZEXEBHIZN01.iraq.centcom.mil ([10.70.20.11]) by 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:15:05 +0300 Received: from INTZEXEBHIZN01.iraq.centcom.mil ([10.70.20.11]) by 02exbhizn02.iraq.centcom.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:58:11 +0300
Content-class:
urn:
content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Subject: The growing link between the U.S. military and right-wing media and blogs
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:15:05 +0300
Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9EE79D5BD1CA47D49B60A519F190F98D@GlennPC>
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: The growing link between the U.S. military and right-wing media and blogs
Thread-Index: AcgZU8rMDQqwmH5eRre22Ga+dQFPsw==
From: "Boylan, Steven COL MNF-I CMD GRP CG PAO"
To:
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2007 11:15:05.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAF430C0:01C81953]
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mailer.salon.com id l9SBFgrP024411
Status: O
X-UID: 273
Content-Length: 4757
X-Keywords:

Headers from the denial email (cont'd)

Received: from INTZEXEVSIZN02.iraq.centcom.mil ([10.70.20.16]) by INTZEXEBHIZN01.iraq.centcom.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:58:11 +0300
Content-class:
urn:
content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Subject: RE: The growing link between the U.S. military and right-wing media and blogs
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:58:11 +0300
Message-ID: <7EED9730BDFDA64183D4BE1C41F917BB39712E@INTZEXEVSIZN02.iraq.centcom.mil>
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: The growing link between the U.S. military and right-wing media and blogs
Thread-Index: AcgZeFOWoEK/zLZxSZm4qrlSEvjjHQAAf2iw
References: <7EED9730BDFDA64183D4BE1C41F917BB397123@INTZEXEVSIZN02.iraq.centcom.mil>
<9EE79D5BD1CA47D49B60A519F190F98D@GlennPC>
From: "Boylan, Steven COL MNF-I CMD GRP CG PAO"
To: "Glenn Greenwald"
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2007 15:58:11.0534 (UTC) FILETIME=[573CE6E0:01C8197B]
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mailer.salon.com id l9SFwcx5001032
X-IMAPbase: 1193356123 291
NonJunkStatus: O
X-UID: 291
Content-Length: 5860
X-Keywords:

And these headers are about what you would expect if they were to come from the same person. The main differences between them have to do with the fact that the second message is a reply to the first, and so contains references to the first so that email clients will know what thread to put the message in.

Note, in particular, that the exact same version of Microsoft Exchange is credited with sending out both emails (and it's an old version), and also that the weird Microsoft tags are the same.

Based on this, I have to conclude that these two emails were written by the same person. Or, someone has hacked into the military infrastructure in an effort to discredit this one Colonel by sending cranky emails to bloggers. But one of the two, certainly.

-----

- Peter Boothe
pboothe1@uoregon.edu
Sun Oct 28 13:04:18 PDT 2007

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