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Title: FAGGOTS THE GOVERNATOR GIVES THEM CALIFORNIA
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://etherzone.com/2007/stang102407.shtml
Published: Oct 24, 2007
Author: Alan Stang
Post Date: 2007-10-30 14:33:02 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
Keywords: Dead Constitution, Hate Crimes, Pious Perverts
Views: 1576
Comments: 95

FAGGOTS THE GOVERNATOR GIVES THEM CALIFORNIA

By: Alan Stang

Personally, I do not want to know what goes on in the ladies’ room. I do know that ladies rise from the table and leave together for the ladies’ so they can talk without embarrassment about how handsome, how charming and how utterly brilliant we men are, but I don’t want to know any more. Even worse than knowing any more, far worse, would be going with them into the ladies’ room. Speaking for other normal men, any man – except the plumber – who spends time in the ladies ’ room, is not a man we want covering our back; we would rather hitch hike across Baghdad or stand knee deep in kimchi.

But California Governator Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a law (SB777) that allows boys and girls in California government schools to use each others’ rest rooms and locker rooms. When I went to school, before the revolution – just after they installed indoor plumbing – any boy caught in the girls’ room in school would have been dragged into the street and beaten into a bloody mess not worth sending to the hospital. If he survived, his embarrassed father would have finished him off. But, again, that was before the revolution.

Consider also that any curious boy in the girls’ room inevitably will get into trouble. The trouble will be entered in his file, which will stay with him the rest of his life, and the school psychologist will put him on anti-boy drugs, which will predispose him to adult drug addiction.

The Governator’s new law in effect also bans usages like “Mom and Dad,” and “husband and wife,” because such combinations are offensive to California sodomites and maybe even abnormal. I do not exaggerate. Der Governator also signed AB394, which subjects parents and teachers to indoctrination with “anti-harassment training.” It mandates all kinds of homosexual propaganda the state will pay for in the schools. From now on, homecoming kings and queens could be of any sex.

And he signed AB14, which prohibits state money for any program that fails to encourage every species of homosexuality you can think of, and some you cannot. The new ban includes important social services run by churches, funded by tax money from Sacramento. It will affect food, housing and jobs programs and services from day-care to senior-care, along with anti-gang and after-school programs.

It was a total triumph for California faggots. Indeed, it gets worse. The new law will force every hospital in the state to support homosexuality or be sued if they don’t, and the law applies even to private and church hospitals. Criminal aliens encouraged to come here by Boosh have already shut many hospitals down; this new law could finish off many more.

Just in case you are smiling smugly and chuckling about “Hollyweird” while you read this in Council Bluffs or Chilicothe, consider first that most ideas like this are bug-tested in states like California and Taxachusetts, and then installed everywhere else. Second, remember that textbook publishers do not spend the money a different edition for other states would require. They cater to their biggest customer, California, sometimes Texas. Iowa and Ohio get the same books California does.

Regular readers understand that this degeneracy is calculated by Marxist strategists to destroy our civilization and then our system, so that our country can be easily dissolved in a totalitarian world government – the North American Union is just a stage in the process – that would have turned Stalin’s Reds, Mussolini’s black shirts and Hitler’s brown shirts green with envy, because they did not have the technology, the electronics, to impose it.

You have heard that the Communist plan is for the United States to “fall like overripe fruit into our hands.” It does appear instead that we are falling into the hands of overripe fruit. Of course, there is always the chance that, before the process is complete, a burning finger could come from the sky and incinerate the state. Are you sure you want to be there?

Why would the Governator do this? Isn’t he supposed to be a “conservative Republican?” The answer is more complicated than the facts that father Schwarzenegger was a dedicated Nazi Storm Trooper in Austria under Hitler and that son Der Arnold was a close friend of Nazi Kurt Waldheim’s. According to one rumor, had Der Arnold not run for Governator of California, he would have returned to Austria – he has dual citizenship – to succeed dear freund Waldheim by running for president there.

History does show that Nazism is one version of sodomy, but that is not the reason Der Governator has given Kahleefourneeya faggots everything they wanted, to such an extent that it is now not an exaggeration to call California the Sodomite State. The reason he did this is that Der Arnold is a dedicated homosexualist, someone who does everything he can get away with to advance the homosexual cause

You will find a wealth of information about him in my new book, Not Holier Than Thou. For instance, Der Governator used to have a lucrative sideline, posing nude for homosexual magazines. The February, 1977 issue of After Dark was one of them. According to the man who sells them, one of the Arnold pictures “drips with come-and-get-it.” There is a group picture in which another man’s legs “virtually sandwich Arnold’s head.” And there is “a delirious shoulder-and-pec-loaded crotch shot.”

Indeed, the Governor of California posed completely nude for sodomite lunatic Robert Mapplethorpe, whose most famous photograph – widely recognized by the nation’s ignoranti as a masterpiece – shows himself with a bull whip sticking out of his anus. The photographs of the Governor of California show him posing among pictures of penises and sodomite acts.

By the way, lest you get the idea I am prejudiced against him, I have seen and enjoyed all his movies – except the one in which he is pregnant, which I have taken pains to avoid – and one of my sons can imitate him so well that if he called you on the phone, said he was the Governator and that he would “be back,” you would run for your life. The trouble is that the man you see in the movies does not exist and never did. He is an utter fabrication. The man in Sacramento is utterly different.

Der Arnold hired Susan Kennedy as his chief-of-staff. Susan Kennedy was Cabinet Secretary and Deputy Chief-of-Staff for Gray Davis, the man the voters kicked out and replaced with Der Arnold because they wanted something different. Susan is also Executive Director of the California Democratic Party. Isn’t Der Arnold supposed to be a Republicrud? And, need we add, she is a lesbian. Daniel Zingale, chief-of-staff to First Lady Maria, is also a Democrud and a homosexual.

Finally, the Governator is a “Log Cabin” Republican hero. At their Los Angeles dinner on June 30th, 2006, he raised $300,000 for their agenda and said he was “proud to stand side by side with Log Cabin.” In return, they gave him their prestigious Ronald Reagan Award. What is the “Log Cabin” Republicans?

It is a homosexual group. It promotes homosexual marriage and military sodomy. Its award is named for Reagan because Ronnie helped defeat the 1978 Briggs Initiative that would have kept homosexual teachers out of California schools. They are there today in part because of him. In fact, Reagan’s dedicated work in their favor inspired them to found Log Cabin Republicans, a hero of which is der Governator.

But of course however much influence with their homosexualist Governator the faggots enjoy, they could not have won this latest, overwhelming victory had there not been a gargantuan vacuum into which their slime could ooze. Who created that vacuum? Who slunk off the field, giving victory to the faggots? In fact, who is responsible for the present sodomite takeover?

It is the churches. The homosexual takeover could not be happening without them. It is the churches, with their 501(c)(3) IRS status that IRS itself says they didn’t need to apply for in the first place. It is the churches whose pastors cower in their pulpits, terrified of saying something somebody, anybody, doesn’t like, afraid of losing the tax-exemption they don’t need. IRS itself says a church is automatically tax-exempt. It doesn’t need to apply for anything. But the preachers still cower. No wonder Islam treats today’s “Christianity” with contempt.

It is the churches that vie for popularity and prosperity, the churches that preach Communist world government traitor Jorge W. Boosh, who has done more to advance Organized Sodomy than the most notorious faggot you could name, the churches that not only have allowed, even encouraged butt jumpers to infiltrate, but have even permitted them to stand in the pulpits and “preach.”

It is the churches that claim to be able to deliver millions of morality voters to the polls, but that permitted the recent Faggot Fest in San Freakcisco to take place, the churches that are participating in the orchestrated collapse of our culture, the make nice smiley churches that love everyone to death and still support the Communist government schools. There is nothing new under the sun and there is a time for war. This is such a time. Not in Iraq. Here.

If you have not yet escaped from California, do something now. Pull your kids out of the government schools tomorrow. Please do not waste my time with messages about how that would be a hardship. I know all about hardship. We ourselves home schooled five. (I am embarrassed to admit I have only five; I thought I was just getting started, but after number five the Love Priestess announced I was retired.)

Yes, somebody may have to quit a job. The change you must make is life changing. You may even need to sell those Jet-Skis in the driveway. If you will abandon your children to Arnold’s faggot government schools, you don’t deserve to have them – and you won’t. You will thereby discredit yourself completely. Anything you say about opposing the onrushing totalitarian juggernaut will be a joke.

And tell your girlie man preacher to return to the church or get out.

By the way, I am available to talk about this on the air. This is a test. Let’s find out how much the kept Communist media really want to know. Call if you want me to guest on your show.

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Alan Stang has been a network radio talk show host and was one of Mike Wallace's first writers. He was a Contributing Editor for American Opinion magazine and has lectured around the world for more than 40 years. He is the author of some fifteen books and hundreds of magazine pieces. His new book is Not Holier Than Thou: How Queer Is Bush? He is a regular columnist for Ether Zone.

Alan Stang can be reached at: feedback@alanstang.com

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Published in the October 24, 2007 issue of Ether Zone. Copyright 33; 1997 - 2007 Ether Zone.

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posted under "religion" because this is holy war against America. [Micah 4:9-13 / Psalm 2, etc.]

UnMasking the Sexual Perversion of the Illuminati: Two On a Saddle

http://www.texemarrs.com/012002/two_on_a_saddle.htm

Two On a Saddle (Part II) http://www.conspiracyworld.com/index0075.htm

Just another example the current government is the image of the beast:

Amo 4:1 — Hear this word, ye kine of Bashan, that [are] in the mountain of Samaria, which oppress the poor, which crush the needy, which say to their masters, Bring, and let us drink.

"ye kine"

"By the ""kine of Bashan,"" some understand the proud, luxurious matrons of Israel; but it is probable the prophet speaks catachrestically, and means the wealthy, effeminate, and profligate rulers and nobles of Samaria.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Amo/4/1.html

Sodomy & mind control

Sex MC Quotes Psychopaths

Deprogrammer Interview with Marion Knox: In the House of the Strongman, Sodomy is the Key - by Elana Freeland

THE MASTER PLAN OF THE ILLUMINATED ROTHSCHILDS: Ron Patton interviews Marion Knox

The US government has videotapes of boys being sodomized at Abu Ghraib....The perpetrator's goal is to gain power. They believe that the devil has the most power, and the most powerful component in the rituals is the blood sacrifices in blasphemy of Christ's atonement. Another very important component is the act of sodomy which is the opposite of the "new birth" we have in Christ. The ritual abuse system is normally built around a three year old child, because this usually is the optimal time to create dissociation or MPD. This system is actually a mirror image or reflection of what appears to be a shattering of the core personality.etc..... etc....... www.whale.to/b/sodomy_q.html

Freud’s Jewish Subversion Of Christian Culture

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=64889

THE JEWISH DEBASING OF AMERICAN CULTURE

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=42


HOW THE BIBLE BECAME 'HATE SPEECH' IN CALIFORNIA

By Rev. Ted Pike 30 Oct 07

Recently, California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed into law S.B. 777, outlawing Biblical criticism of homosexuality in CA public schools (See, California 'Mom,' 'Dad' ban garners international scorn). California 's Christians face the alternatives of withdrawing their children to private education or watching them progressively corrupted by an educational system that demonizes their religious bias against sodomy.

This ban on the Bible is not a recent capricious edict from Sacramento liberals or the Republican "Terminator" Governor Schwarzenegger. It's the result of massive social engineering throughout the past half century but begun in earnest in 1985 by the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith. ADL is architect of "anti-bias" educational programs worldwide. Here's how this Jewish activist group helped make it criminal to criticize sodomy in California --and intends to do so everywhere........sodomy is being pushed down the throats of Christian America until it will soon become criminal not to be a homosexual but a Christian! (See, Judaism and Homosexuality: A Marriage Made in Hell and Jews Confirm Big Media Is Jewish)....... http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/howbiblebecamehate.htm

WorldNetDaily: Diss a 'gay'? Go to jail! Ted Pike, of the National Prayer Network, starts out with a federal police state ... who preached that homosexuality is a sin, in jail for a month. ... http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54260

WorldNetDaily: Christian belief a 'hate crime' under plan A homosexual can claim emotional damage from hearing Scripture that describes his lifestyle as an ... Rev. Ted Pike, of the National Prayer Network ... http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54535

NPN Email Alert By Rev. Ted Pike 22 Sep 06. Today, Judaism, more than any religion, has rejected moral judgments against homosexuality, and supports the gay agenda. ... http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/judaismhomosexuality.html

NPN Email Alert Order Ted Pike's gripping 80-minute VHS/DVD documentary, "Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians ... Ted Pike on the threat of hate laws, call 503-631-3808. ... http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/irvinginquisition.html

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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

ping....almost forgot your:

PREDICTION NOW A REALITY: "MOMS & DADS" BANNED IN CAL. SCHOOLS http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=63933

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   14:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

The fact that you post this stuff makes me think that you are, in real life, a closeted Republican congressman.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-10-30   14:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1)

You can't make up this stuff - Dear God.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-10-30   14:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Indrid Cold (#2)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-30   14:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn, Indrid Cold (#4)

The fact that you post this stuff makes me think that you are, in real life, a closeted Republican congressman.

LOL.

wrong....it makes me someone that sees the handwriting on the wall.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   15:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Indrid Cold (#5)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-30   15:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

wrong....it makes me someone that sees the handwriting on the wall.

Does that mean a quick blowjob is out of the question?

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-10-30   15:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

But California Governator Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a law (SB777) that allows boys and girls in California government schools to use each others’ rest rooms and locker rooms.

So are orgies in the locker rooms going to be frowned upon, or will be it only be offensive if those involved are of opposite sex? Will adults be joining the action?

Aren't people awake in that state? Is this what they truly want for their children?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-10-30   15:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: richard9151 (#0)

But of course however much influence with their homosexualist Governator the faggots enjoy, they could not have won this latest, overwhelming victory had there not been a gargantuan vacuum into which their slime could ooze. Who created that vacuum? Who slunk off the field, giving victory to the faggots? In fact, who is responsible for the present sodomite takeover?

It is the churches. The homosexual takeover could not be happening without them. It is the churches, with their 501(c)(3) IRS status that IRS itself says they didn’t need to apply for in the first place. It is the churches whose pastors cower in their pulpits, terrified of saying something somebody, anybody, doesn’t like, afraid of losing the tax-exemption they don’t need. IRS itself says a church is automatically tax-exempt. It doesn’t need to apply for anything. But the preachers still cower. No wonder Islam treats today’s “Christianity” with contempt.

It is the churches that vie for popularity and prosperity, the churches that preach Communist world government traitor Jorge W. Boosh, who has done more to advance Organized Sodomy than the most notorious faggot you could name, the churches that not only have allowed, even encouraged butt jumpers to infiltrate, but have even permitted them to stand in the pulpits and “preach.”

It is the churches that claim to be able to deliver millions of morality voters to the polls, but that permitted the recent Faggot Fest in San Freakcisco to take place, the churches that are participating in the orchestrated collapse of our culture, the make nice smiley churches that love everyone to death and still support the Communist government schools. There is nothing new under the sun and there is a time for war. This is such a time. Not in Iraq. Here.

articles on the 501c3 status some churches have taken upon themselves, to receive tax benefits, when according to the IRS, they didn't have to:

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4um: Returning Free Speech to Our Houses of Worship A corporation is a creation of the state. A 501 (c)(3) church is a STATE creation ..... http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5005

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WHAT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?

"....The following was sent to me after the first limited posting of ''What Separation of Church and State''. The information came from Brother Gregory, and covers much that I missed. It is certainly interesting, and you should wonder how this ties into Fascism, and how the state uses the churches to cement its control of the nation. Richard

“Churches have not only bound themselves unnecessarily, they have neglected the daily ministration of the people and delivered them back into the snares and bondage of rulers and despots which Abraham, Moses and Jesus led men out of.

Churches regularly fill out (a form) 1023 and apply for a status with the government called 501C3. Lawyers tell them they have to do this despite that the Internal Revenue states that, "The following organizations will be considered tax exempt under section 501(c)(3) even if they do not file Form 1023: (a) churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churches,...".

Where do they state this? In the instructions of course: "Application for Recognition of Exemption Under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code," under "Purpose of Form," section "2. Organizations not Required to file Form 1023. -Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service.

This of course is not the only place that Churches are told that they do not have to apply.

Many have told me that if you are not a 501(c)(3) church you cannot deduct your

contributions. For those who believe that to be true you should know that, in the Department of the Treasury, I.R.S., Pub. 557 Tax-Exempt Status for Your Organization, Chap. 3, Page 14, we find; "Although a church, its integrated auxiliaries, or a convention or association of churches is not required to file Form 1023 to be exempt from federal income tax or to receive tax deductible contributions, such an organization may find it advantageous to obtain recognition of exemption." (This is exactly what I was speaking of before; in essence, the churches have requested to enter into commerce. – Richard)

So, contributions are deductible if you do not file. Yet many churches do file. Why? What are the advantages that they may find under a 501(c)(3) status?

"Advantages and Disadvantages of Exemption Under Section 501(c)(3)." "The main advantage to classification under .501(c)(3) is that the organization is generally spared federal taxation of its income." according to the Detailed Analysis, Tax Management Inc. a subsidiary of the Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. 464-2nd, A -1

The use of the words 'generally spared' should make it clear that any 'organization' granted or permitted exemption under 501(c)(3) is spared not because of its nature or right but because of its 'classification.' Probably the most important word to note is the word 'under.'

Again if we look at the Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service, Instructions for form 1023, section 2, we see; "Even if these organizations are not required to file form 1023 to be tax-exempt, they may wish to file form 1023 and receive a determination letter of IRS recognition of their section 501(c)(3) status to obtain certain incidental benefits such as public recognition of their tax exempt status; exemptions from certain state taxes; advance assurance to donors of deductibility of contributions; from certain Federal excise taxes; nonprofit mailing privileges, etc."

How is it an advantage to exchange a God given mandatory exemption as Christ's Holy Church for a classification as an organization, which is only generally spared taxation?

So, what are the disadvantages?

According to the same Detailed Analysis, "The disadvantages of exemption under 501(c)(3) stem from the strict operational restrictions." A church or a religion is exempt, in the sense that it is not taxed or regulated, because the government has no power, granted by the document that created it, to make rules to the contrary. Do you want to be merely spared a tax although your operations will be strictly restricted under the administrative rule of 501(c)(3) regulations and authority?

There is far more to all this including a look at incorporation by the state of a Church which is really the waiver of rights of the Church granted by Christ in exchange for commercial benefits offered by the state. . See The Body of Christ Vs. The Body of the State and other links concerning the formation of a free Church. Http://www.hisholychurch.net/study/gods/bvb.htm

Peace on your house Gregory@hisholychurch.net Join the Kingdom News List http://www.hisholychurch.net/subscribe.html Discussion and News lists including the Kingdom News. http://www.hisholychurch.net/emaillst.asp

I have always understood that it was not necessary to register a church to make that church tax deductible; in fact, I have always understood that the very act of registering such a church would end it’s RIGHT to be tax deductible, and instead make that church depend upon a PRIVILEGE. But I did not have the details available that Brother Gregory was so gracious to share with us.

There is another aspect to this, and it is one of supreme importance… at least, it is to me. If you are a Christian, and I realize that many on these lists are not, then you understand the same as I do, and you know that there will come a day when you stand before God for Judgment. You are required by His Law to seek out the Truth, and you are required to change accordingly when you discover what it is that you are required to do.

If you are attending a 501(c)(3) church, accepting marriage with a state issued marriage license, and listening to a state licensed minister preach the Word of God, then you are the one who will have to face judgment for that sin. You are compounding this sin when you donate money to such an organization, cherish the tax deduction, and teach your children and all others you know, by your example, to do the same as you......"

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=35404

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501c3 Facts

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government." - Congressman George Hansen [victim of Diesel Therapy and Prison Torture] http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=63597 ], in Caesar's Grip by Peter Kershaw

Most churches in America have organized as "501c3 tax-exempt religious organizations." This is a fairly recent trend that has only been going on for about fifty years. Churches were only added to section 501c3 of the tax code in 1954. We can thank Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson for that. Johnson was no ally of the church. As part of his political agenda, Johnson had it in mind to silence the church and eliminate the significant influence the church had always had on shaping "public policy."

Although Johnson proffered this as a "favor" to churches, the favor also came with strings attached (more like shackles). One need not look far to see the devastating effects 501c3 acceptance has had to the church, and the consequent restrictions placed upon any 501c3 church. 501c3 churches are prohibited from addressing, in any tangible way, the vital issues of the day.

For a 501c3 church to openly speak out, or organize in opposition to, anything that the government declares "legal," even if it is immoral (e.g. abortion, homosexuality, etc.), that church will jeopardize its tax exempt status. The 501c3 has had a "chilling effect" upon the free speech rights of the church. LBJ was a shrewd and cunning politician who seemed to well-appreciate how easily many of the clergy would sell out.

Did the church ever need to seek permission from the government to be exempt from taxes? Were churches prior to 1954 taxable? No, churches have never been taxable. To be taxable a church would first need to be **** under the jurisdiction, and therefore under the taxing authority, of the government. The First Amendment clearly places the church ***** outside the jurisdiction of the civil government: "Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Religion cannot be free if you have to pay the government, through taxation, to exercise it. Since churches aren't taxable in the first place, why do so many of them go to the IRS and seek permission to be tax-exempt? It occurs out of:

* Ignorance ("We didn't know any better")

* Bandwagon logic ("Everyone else is doing it")

* Professional advice (many attorneys and CPAs recommend it)

Does the law require, or even encourage, a church to organize as a 501c3? To answer that question let's turn to what the IRS itself has to say.

Churches Need Not Apply

In order to be considered for tax-exempt status by the IRS an organization must fill out and submit IRS Form 1023 and 1024. However, note what the IRS says regarding churches and church ministries, in Publication 557:

Some organizations are not required to file Form 1023. These include:

Churches, interchurch organizations of local units of a church, conventions or associations of churches, or integrated auxiliaries of a church, such as a men’s or women’s organization, religious school, mission society, or youth group. These organizations are exempt automatically if they meet the requirements of section 501(c)(3).

Churches Are “Automatically Tax-Exempt”

According to IRS Code § 508(c)(1)(A):

Special rules with respect to section 501(c)(3) organizations.

(a) New organizations must notify secretary that they are applying for recognition of section 501(c)(3) status. (c) Exceptions.

(1) Mandatory exceptions. Subsections (a) and (b) shall not apply to—

(A) churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churches.

This is referred to as the "mandatory exception" rule. Thus, we see from the IRS’ own publications, and the tax code, that it is completely unnecessary for any church to apply for tax-exempt status. In the IRS’ own words a church “is automatically tax-exempt.” Churches Are “Automatically Tax-Deductible”

And what about tax-deductibility? Doesn’t a church still need to become a 501c3 so that contributions to it can be taken as a tax deduction? The answer is no! According to IRS Publication 526:

Organizations That Qualify To Receive Deductible Contributions

You can deduct your contributions only if you make them to a qualified organization. To become a qualified organization, most organizations other than churches and governments, as described below, must apply to the IRS.

In the IRS’ own words a church “is automatically tax-deductible.” Churches Have a Mandatory Exception To Filing Tax Returns

Not only is it completely unnecessary for any church to seek 501c3 status, to do so becomes a grant of jurisdiction to the IRS by any church that obtains that State favor. In the words of Steve Nestor, IRS Sr. Revenue Officer (ret.):

"I am not the only IRS employee who’s wondered why churches go to the government and seek permission to be exempted from a tax they didn’t owe to begin with, and to seek a tax deductible status that they’ve always had anyway. Many of us have marveled at how church leaders want to be regulated and controlled by an agency of government that most Americans have prayed would just get out of their lives. Churches are in an amazingly unique position, but they don’t seem to know or appreciate the implications of what it would mean to be free of government control."

from the Forward of In Caesar's Grip, by Peter Kershaw

http://hushmoney.org/501c3-facts.htm

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Gal 5:1 ¶ Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gal/5/1.html

I'm sure richard would agree that taking our kids out of the Babylonian schools, and Churches disassociating themselves from the jurisdiction of the antiChrist state would be a good place to start....and to start preaching the Gospel again, and speaking out BOLDLY against the abominations being done in this country that might might bring the wrath of God down upon her....and us.

any other comments, richard?

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   15:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Indrid Cold (#7)

Take your perverted self out of my face please....that disgusting question does not deserve an answer.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   15:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

...it will soon become criminal not to be a homosexual but a Christian!

It's too bad that most Christians support government schools (and government in general). They cry foul when the monster they helped create bites them in the ass.

Alan Chapman  posted on  2007-10-30   15:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ghostdogtxn (#6)

see my reply to whatshisname above.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   15:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Alan Chapman (#11)

I homeschooled my kids.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   15:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#12)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-30   15:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#8)

Is this what they truly want for their children?

No, this is someone's experiment.

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robin  posted on  2007-10-30   15:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker (#8)

But California Governator Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a law (SB777) that allows boys and girls in California government schools to use each others’ rest rooms and locker rooms.

So are orgies in the locker rooms going to be frowned upon, or will be it only be offensive if those involved are of opposite sex? Will adults be joining the action?

I never had a huge problem with homosexuality as long as people kept it in the closet....and then someone at FR started running a series of threads on the issue, and the homosexual goals [which are really Illuminati goals and they are just using the homosexuals to destroy the Christian foundation of this country, in order to superimpose their Satanic New World Order on top of it] and I saw how wrong my attitude had been....and YES, apparently one of their goals is to make adult sex with children and sex between children and ANIMALS legal. If they can ban "Mom" and "Dad" from the schools, and allow boys in the girls' room, I see no reason to doubt that orgies for all at school will be next.

Aren't people awake in that state? Is this what they truly want for their children?

I'm not sure that they are awake...most are being kept too busy with their noses to the grindstone...and/or the JewTube. MAYBE this will wake them up. I doubt if most parents want this for their children, but there are probably many who have no problem with it. We are the wheat and tare generation, IMO.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   16:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: ghostdogtxn (#14)

Sorry. No offense, but I think homophobia is hilarious.

see my reply to FormerLurker.

Do you think people being callously used for the purposes of the elite is hilarious?

see the article by BrotherNathaniel:

"THE JEWISH DEBASING OF AMERICAN CULTURE

The Exaltation of Black Rap And Sexual Perversity

MURRAY ROTHSTEIN WAS BORN TO JEWISH PARENTS in 1923 in Massachusetts. He now goes by the name, “Sumner Redstone.”

Murray Rothstein owns Viacom, a Media Corporation with subsidiaries such as, MTV, the Homosexual TV show, LOGO, and Paramount Pictures.

When Murray Rothstein puts on a video at his MTV subsidiary with blacks rapping such lyrics as: “Hey yo, I smoke dust and shoot cops, sell drugs on newlots, we dust brothers f**k mothers,” I don’t think he really “grooves” into it. It’s for the Goys you know, and he is making a killing on the dumb Goys who have been conditioned by MTV and all of the Jewish-controlled media to despise anything that remotely resembles Christian morality.

As for Murray’s homosexual show, LOGO, don’t think for a minute that if his son brought a boyfriend-lover home for dinner that Murray would be too delighted. Jews you see have an obsession that their children should marry and bear grandsons, thus conferring “immortality” on their Jewish progenitors. A homosexual son is not only a disgrace to a Jew, but tantamount to wiping him out of existence.

But The Show Must Go On, as the saying goes. And thus the Jewish-controlled media and their legal arm, the Jewish-run and funded, American Civil Liberties Union, (ACLU), are engaged in a relentless effort to promote public displays of perversion and decadence......"

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=42

tantamount to wiping him out of existence.

.....and that's their goal for the hated Christian:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Psa/83/4.html

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/21/38.html

btw, my computer is really dragging, and may crash at any time....I hope not before I am able to save the things that are on it.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   16:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#16)

I never had a huge problem with homosexuality as long as people kept it in the closet....and then someone at FR started running a series of threads on the issue, and the homosexual goals [which are really Illuminati goals and they are just using the homosexuals to destroy the Christian foundation of this country, in order to superimpose their Satanic New World Order on top of it] and I saw how wrong my attitude had been....and YES, apparently one of their goals is to make adult sex with children and sex between children and ANIMALS legal. If they can ban "Mom" and "Dad" from the schools, and allow boys in the girls' room, I see no reason to doubt that orgies for all at school will be next.

Most boys like girls, and vice versa. However, some boys like boys and some girls like girls. I think the biggest part of the "agenda" is to be able to have a loving relationship with another boy or girl without being laughed at, beaten, or killed.

Which is the more honest approach--to pretend to be "straight" and lie to your spouse about your true feelings, or to go out and get a same-gender spouse whom you can love?

I've never known a gay person to advocate for sex with animals. Usually it's the repressed "straight" people who get caught doing that. Ditto with pedophilia.

I think you're really limiting your life experiences by being so uptight about sexuality. God(dess) gave us these organs so we could have fun with them and occasionally accidentally procreate. What if gay sex was a lot more fun that straight sex? Wouldn't you feel foolish for denying yourself this whole time?

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-10-30   16:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#17)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-30   16:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker (#16)

I never had a huge problem with homosexuality as long as people kept it in the closet

Let me rephrase that....I always had a problem with the idea of homosexuality. It was the homosexuals themselves I didn't have as much problem with....but homosexuality wasn't as in-your-face [sorry] a while back as it is now. I have as much problem with the other things Schwarzenegger is pushing as the homosexual bit. It's all an abomination to me. Is homosexuality a bigger abomination to God than any other sin? I don't really know....but I do know that the "angel"/"man" that spoke with Abraham before He went off to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, was none other than Jesus Christ....and He says He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

The only good thing I can see here, is that we are nearing the end of "their" [children of wickedness II Samuel 7:10] reign here....As Pat Robertson always said....rampant homosexuality was always the last straw before God destroyed a nation. I don't think He is going to destroy America, but I do think He is going to pluck up Satan's nation that dwells among us.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   16:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Indrid Cold (#18)

good grief....

Child of light here....can't relate to your world view.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   16:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: ghostdogtxn (#19)

Oy Vey. Homophobia and World Jewry in one package. Toss in the mafia and the Illuminati, and I think we got a winner.

Don't forget the scammy tax advice in post #9. This thread really does have it all.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-10-30   16:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: ghostdogtxn (#19)

why do the heathen rage.... Psalm 2.

"rage" = "to plot, conspire"

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   16:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#10)

that disgusting question does not deserve an answer.

I'd stay out of the restrooms at Focus On The Family rallies, then.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-10-30   16:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#21)

Child of light here....can't relate to your world view.

Oh, c'mon.

What if Johnny Depp propositioned you?

He's so dreamy....

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-10-30   16:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Indrid Cold (#22)

maybe you are really an IRS agent or one of chertoff's castoffs.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   16:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0) (Edited)

I have no use for the homosexual agenda, but Alan Stang is a million times nuttier than any "faggot" he attacks. His weird combination of conspiracy theory and theo-babble make the Church of Scientology look sane.

As an example of Alan Stang's nuttiness: he thinks that part of the "Zionist" agenda is the destruction of Israel. I kid you not.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-10-30   17:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#27)

As an example of Alan Stang's nuttiness: he thinks that part of the "Zionist" agenda is the destruction of Israel. I kid you not.

Actually, that's not as "nutty" as you think....I was off saving windows and working on something else...and will have to switch gears and track back in my memory ....but that IS one of the plots....give me a while and I'll see if I can come up with it...John Hagee and his crowd figures in this.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   18:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, TommyTheMadArtist, *you gotta be shitting me* (#0)

The Governator’s new law in effect also bans usages like “Mom and Dad,” and “husband and wife,” because such combinations are offensive to California sodomites and maybe even abnormal. I do not exaggerate. Der Governator also signed AB394, which subjects parents and teachers to indoctrination with “anti-harassment training.” It mandates all kinds of homosexual propaganda the state will pay for in the schools. From now on, homecoming kings and queens could be of any sex.

this is just too much....talk about a sabotage of the lexicon and ridiculous, beyond absurd, attempt at political correctness?!?

christine  posted on  2007-10-30   18:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#27)

This isn't exactly the one I was looking for, but it will suffice for now.

Holocaust For Zion : CUFI's Christian Zionism Made Simple

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=47130

I think they call this the Armageddon Plot...It's one of the reasons people like Hagee and Pat Robertson have programs to "return" the Jews to "Israel"....to fulfill what I believe is the "British-Israel" plot to ultimately put someone from the monarchy on the "throne of David" [Jesus Christ is sitting on it] for a "thousand years" [a thousand year reich of of the rich, who through their utter ignorance, think they have the "divine right" to rule over the rest of us]....It's difficult to keep up with all their plots, but some have them ruling from Jerusalem, some from the British Isles, and some from Denver, Colorado.... and I'm running out of steam, and didn't accomplish anywhere near what I wanted to accomplish today, including finishing a post I started a few days ago, but if I get a chance, I might add a word or two to this idea later.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   18:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: christine (#29)

From now on, homecoming kings and queens could be of any sex.

now they'll be drag queens

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robin  posted on  2007-10-30   18:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#29)

The Governator’s new law in effect also bans usages like “Mom and Dad,” and “husband and wife,”

If that doesn't fire people up, I don't know what will. Jesus said before He returned, all the "hidden things of darkness" will be revealed. So much of the totally bizarre is being revealed, I think the time is getting close. I'm not a big fan of Schwarzenegger....never saw a Terminator movie....but do you suppose folks who have made a hero out of him will be utterly surprised and disgusted to hear the truth about him, and maybe turn from worship of men and their secular state, and start looking UP again?

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   18:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robin (#31)

oh lord, you made me choke!

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-30   18:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, REDPANTHER (#0)

BUMP

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2007-10-30   23:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

All this talk about closeted, repressed pillow biters has me curious. I think I will go back over to LibertysFlame tomorrow and study some of these characters.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-10-30   23:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: ghostdogtxn (#14)

"Sorry. No offense, but I think homophobia is hilarious."

It is. I have no sympathy or use for it either.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-10-31   4:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: echo5sierra (#0)

Artisan  posted on  2007-10-31   5:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

thanks for the great thread.

I am amazed at how many people vote republican to defend the culture from homosexual agenda, yet republicans promote that agenda. this one event in California is not the only time Republicans have done this.

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-10-31   5:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#36)

homophobia is hilarious."

It is. I have no sympathy or use for it either.

I think this is part of your religious system of paganism/witchcraft. Is it not ?

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-10-31   7:16:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#30)

The European monarchs especially Britain, Ireland and Scotland (among others) most closely resemble scriptural references to the descendants of King David sitting on the throne "til shiloh comes" ... that being said, God didn't say that these descendants sitting on the throne would be godly, good, or demonstrate those qualities ... just that this would be the case.

There is no doubt in my mind that the monarchies of Europe, having combined their strengths with the international banker "Jews" are "IN FACT" ruling the world. The oldest monarchy in Europe is the Papacy.

I think much will be made known that isn't known today and an open mind is most desirable.

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-10-31   7:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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