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Title: '60 Minutes' Identifies 'Curve Ball' Source Who Led U.S. to Invade Iraq
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307479,00.html
Published: Nov 2, 2007
Author: none listed
Post Date: 2007-11-02 11:46:05 by Alan Chapman
Keywords: None
Views: 95
Comments: 4

Rafid Ahmed Alwan, known as "Curve Ball" in intelligence circles, is not a chemical engineering expert, according to the report, which instead characterized Alwan as a liar, a thief and poor student.

The CIA received hundreds of summaries of debriefings with Alwan, contributing to other intelligence reports that led the United States to bomb and invade Iraq. Former CIA Director George Tenet gave Alwan's allegations to Secretary of State Colin Powell for his report to the United Nations in the argument to take military action against Iraq, the news magazine reports.

The two-year investigation undertaken found that Alwan arrived in a refugee camp in Germany in 1999 and claimed to be a chemical engineer leading a facility at Djerf al Nadaf that was making mobile biological weapons. The news magazine reports that Alwan was looking for asylum and used his claims to bolster his case.

Alwan did study chemical engineering but he received poor grades. The investigation also found an arrest warrant for theft for Alwan.

Alwan led officials to believe Saddam possessed biological weapons, telling German intelligence officials about his insight with mostly accurate descriptions of a plant outside Baghdad. He told officials 12 workers were killed by biological agents at the plant.

A letter addressed to Tenet from the head of German intelligence states that Alwan's information appeared to be believable, but there was nothing to back up his allegations.

Tenet denies seeing the letter, a spokesman told "60 Minutes."

But CIA weapons inspectors visited the plant at Djerf al Nadaf before the invasion, finding no evidence of biological agents, CBS states in its report, adding that Alwan is likely in Germany today, living freely under an assumed name.

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#1. To: Alan Chapman (#0)

Pointing the finger at any one liar and fraud is more than a little naive. Alwan was basically a low level pawn in a huge network of misinformation that lead us into war. Much more important than Alwan or anyone else in the Middle East was the fact that the war was conceived in Washington by the Bush-Cheney administration and by neoconservatives years before the fact. They just needed to set the lie machine and its operators into motion once the plan was in place.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-02   11:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#1)

summaries of debriefings with Alwan, contributing to other intelligence reports that led the United States to bomb and invade Iraq.

Indeed.

This article attempts to reinforce the fiction that Bush decided to "let the chips fall where they may" and that, BECAUSE of these bad and lying people who gave the CIA false information, now we ended up destroying Iraq and bankrupting the US. But... wasn't Cheney one of the many regime types, showing up at the CIA and DEMANDING that some evidence is 'found' to back Bush's decision to 'act'?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-02   13:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#2)

The Stovepipe

Alan Chapman  posted on  2007-11-02   13:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Alan Chapman (#0)

If our intelligence agencies are this stupid, then they should be de-funded, and every employee fired for gross incompetence.

Nobody should believe this pile of shit. Yet... We're going to believe that our entire intelligence network went to the war on the premise of one middle-eastern moron?

Yeah... Right.

Nobody goes to war on the word of a moron. They go to war because their masters tell them to do so.

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-11-02   16:20:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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