incredible propaganda for fascism. on tv those portrayed as democrats or liberals or republicans or conservatives all stick with the fascist line that sept 11 events were not done by the clique that rules us. and look at the effort to make it illegal to say so. bill maher - bill o'riley - what is the real difference?
lodwick says 'thank god for the news hounds' and I don't blame him, I've certainly enjoyed reading the massive amount of info available since the internet first got big that has shown me what has been happening. and I'm so glad to have learned the truth though at times it has been depressing. surely we must be able to see that the real news is being shut off for us though, that it is becoming harder to come by. and we must see that we're beating a dead horse with our efforts. the media that 90% of Americans trust is fascist completely marching lock-step under a script.
we can ridicule them, but we can't win. and the more we try the more we stray from more important endeavours in our lives. just my opinion, don't hate me for it.
there's a certain cathartic value in seeing what's going on. but that's about all any more.
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
What about the people who lost people on 911 that have the same questions as Rosie?
such people as you mention do exist in reality. but in the world of tv they do not exist. and therefore in the minds of many americans they do not exist. that tv is the greatest propaganda tool ever devised. It defines reality (for so many people). it defines acceptable thoughts and unacceptable thoughts as well.
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
The despicable anti-truthers are certainly fans of Orwell, as everything they say is doublespeak. It is many of the families of the 9/11 victims that STARTED the 9/11 truth movement. These families have been called whores, nutjobs, and worse by the likes of O'Reily and/or people like him over the past several years.
Remember the Jersey Girls, and the comments that were posted on ElPee attacking them?
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
such people as you mention do exist in reality. but in the world of tv they do not exist. and therefore in the minds of many americans they do not exist. that tv is the greatest propaganda tool ever devised. It defines reality (for so many people). it defines acceptable thoughts and unacceptable thoughts as well.
I've heard O'Reilly mention these families before. I've also heard Rush and Hannity talk about them. They speak about them with pure hatred and disdain. They refuse to address the questions asked and instead attack the motivations of the family members asking the questions.
tv is the greatest propaganda tool ever devised. It defines reality (for so many people). it defines acceptable thoughts and unacceptable thoughts as well.
You know, when I was a kid. less than 5 yrs old.. I used to have an ongoing reccuring dream. it was in black and white, and it was a dream that the devil had a head that was a TV, and his eyes, face, etc. were on the TV screen.
I've often reflected on what that dream meant, but it seems a pretty simple analysis.
I'm so glad to have learned the truth though at times it has been depressing. surely we must be able to see that the real news is being shut off for us though, that it is becoming harder to come by. and we must see that we're beating a dead horse with our efforts. the media that 90% of Americans trust is fascist completely marching lock-step under a script.
we can ridicule them, but we can't win. and the more we try the more we stray from more important endeavours in our lives. just my opinion, don't hate me for it.
Very poignant. 'Important endeavors in our lives', each of us has our own. Personally I try to place importance on God, family, and country, in that order.
It boils down to serving and worshiping God and protecting our family, IMO. The politics and issues we talk about here is merely is one of many forms of evil that we're fighting.
Actually I think the "Truthers" (sic) are leftist. If 9-11 had happened on Clinton's watch, not one would be saying he was behind it. The only they're saying Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, et al, are involved in it is because they hate them because of their misperception of them as conservatives.
Freepers, who fancy themselves rightists, like to blame 9-11 on Clinton, saying he ignored Osama.
The belief in conspiracies depends on who you hate.
Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.
#12. To: FormerLurker, robin, christine, fred mertz, kamala, lodwick, wudidiz, *Alex Jones* (#7)
Have ya'll heard about the giant 911 rally that will take place next Sunday, 11/11? It's in Santa Monica starting at 11 AM, and i hope there is a big turnout. It's organized by WEARECHANGE LA. It will start at the santa monica pier and then march down the 3rd street promenade.
I don't know if the organizers know bout this but Here is a webcam where you can watch the santa monica pier live. http://www.westland.net/piercam/
tune in to the pier cam at 11am Pacific,, get some screen shots of that if you can.
Believe me the truthers aren't largely comprised of 'leftists'; many are former left wing who have woken up to the phony left-right paradigm. I do think that as a whole, left wingers and democrats, as well as those not politically inclined, tend to be more receptive to the truth message. Old right and libertarians are already informed and don't need to be convinced of anything. the mainstream repubs and dumb neocon followers, who get their news from soundbytes, are the hardest to break through,.
In thinking the conspiratorial public positions the FBI has taken in the TWA flight 800 incident is merely illogical or incompetent. Our government wouldn't try and stop us from getting to the truth, would they?
I work hard, every day of my life, just stayin' alive.
Chef: This Colonel guy? He's wacko, man! He's worse than crazy. He's evil. It's fuckin' pagan idolatry. Look around you. Shit! He's loco... I ain't afraid of all them fuckin' skulls and altars and shit. I used to think if I died in an evil place, then my soul wouldn't be able to make it to Heaven. But now? Fuck! I mean, I don't care where it goes, as long as it ain't here. So whaddya wanna do? I'll kill the fuck.
Not the quote.. but a scene from Apocalypse Now.. :P
did you hear when Kirsten Powers said, "they follow Ron Paul?"
yep, I caught that.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
...now dont you like this bullshit being tied to Ron Paul ..
I respect Paul's decision regarding what he will say about 911. But I contend that, if the murikan people are waking up at such a degree as truthers claim, and are ripe for a 'great awakening', then why should Paul's supporters not gain more support by proclaiming, 'Yes 911 was an inside job. i know it, and I support this man, who will get to the root of such problems'.
Or do you think we should be shy about such views and not dare mention controversy such as govt terra? After all, all these warmongerers BASE their war plans on 911 and TERRA. I believe only 911 truth is the key to undermining them,.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Thanks for the video, I had heard that but not seen it. It appears to have been done in a chickenshit way though, with the videographer not telling him he was being filmed.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
As do I but as you can see doesnt matter what he says.. those whose job is it is to destroy him will say and do whatever it takes till something sticks..
It goes so far deeper than 9/11 .. and 9/11 is truthfully such a minor thing in the grand scheme of things when you realize what evil has been perpetrated in this world behind the scenes.. the deaths.. the torture the destruction of nations.. thousands upon thousands of deaths.. all for the empire.
OK. I thought you were suggesting that Paul supporters should not mention 911 truth because it might alienate people,. Some Paul supporters hold that view. , and that is certainly their perogative. I don't mention it all the time, depends on who i am talking with,.
At the tonight show I met several Paulites who did not believe 911 was an inside job. (Must say, i wouldnt go out of my way to stay in contact with them.)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
First thing, forget any comment from YT. His backround includes velcro shoes, yogart cups, pug bowling and worries about being a faggot.
Here is the deal, over 50% of the 911 families, 90% of the NYC fireman and 70% of the NYC police, do not believe the government version of events.
I saw the program with Bill"Phone Sex"O'Reilly basically threatening everyone, saying "I'm coming after you!".
Guys like O'Reilly are cowards. He never has anyone of substance to "debate" him or confront him in person in the studio. All his smear "interviews" are on remote, where he can shout, talk over and cut your audio.
He is just a bag boy for the world/corporate/government fascists.
Mark
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
He is just a bag boy for the world/corporate/government fascists.
that is for sure.
sadly, he has his share of fans.
you know there is a debate among economists as to whether demand creates supply or supply creates demand. The same debate can be applied to public opinion. We (at least those who watch tv which excludes me) are fed a steady diet of journalists who reject all questioning of the sept 11 events and are extremely pro-war. Some like Michael savage & others favor genocide against muslims. Torture is systematically advocated per the show '24'.
in this environment it is just a matter of time before a significant minority will be totally supportive of any evil agenda given to them. and with the voting machines and all the other fascist apparatus, I just hope you all understand that unfortunately resistance may be futile.
It's nice that we see them clearly though & very valuable. I hope I don't offend you. I know Kamala & many others have done tremendous duty in informing many. and it is much appreciated.
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.