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Title: Jewgenics
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Slate
URL Source: http://www.slate.com/id/2177228/
Published: Nov 1, 2007
Author: William Saletan
Post Date: 2007-11-07 19:08:22 by Tauzero
Keywords: None
Views: 284
Comments: 16
Are Jews a race? Is Jewish intelligence genetic? If these notions make you cringe, you're not alone. Many non-Jews find them offensive. Actually, scratch that. I have no idea whether non-Jews find them offensive. But I imagine that they do, which is why Jews like me wince at any suggestion of Jewish genetic superiority. We don't even want to talk about it. Actually, a bunch of us did talk about it, three days ago at a forum at the American Enterprise Institute. The main speaker was Jon Entine, an AEI fellow and author of a new book, Abraham's Children: Race, Identity, and the DNA of the Chosen People. He was joined by fellow AEI scholar Charles Murray and by Laurie Zoloth, a bioethicist at Northwestern University. Entine and Zoloth are Jewish. Murray isn't but talks as though he wishes he were. "One of my thesis advisers at MIT was a Sephardic Jew," he announced proudly, turning the old "some of my best friends" cliché upside down. Entine laid out the data. The average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews is 107 to 115, well above the human average of 100. This gap and the genetic theories surrounding it stirred discomfort in the room. Zoloth, speaking for many liberals, recalled a family member's revulsion at the idea of a Jewish race. Judaism is about faith and values, she argued. To reduce it to biology is to make it exclusive, denying its openness to all. Worse, to suggest that Jews are genetically smart is to imply that non-Jews are inherently inferior, in violation of Jewish commitments to equality and compassion. My friend Dana Milbank, who's a better (if I may use that word) Jew than I am, watched the discussion, went back to his office, and wrote a column in the Washington Post poking fun at all the talk of superior Jewish intellect. The column, as usual, was really smart. But what if Judaism as a genetic inheritance is compatible with Judaism as a cultural inheritance? And what if the genes that make Jews smart also make them sick? If one kind of superiority comes at the price of another kind of inferiority, and if the transmission of Jewish values drives the transmission of Jewish genes, does that make the genetics and the superiority easier to swallow? Apparently so. According to Entine, the rate of Jewish "outbreeding"—procreating with non-Jews—is half a percent. That's the lowest rate of any population in the world today. What drives this phenomenon? Culture. Ten years ago, my childless Orthodox uncle came up to me and said, "I hear you're dating a Jewish girl." When I replied in the affirmative, he added, "If you marry her, I'll come to the wedding." That was pretty much the whole conversation. A year and a half later, he was at my wedding. Today, he's got a grandniece and grandnephew living in my house. I'd like to think he had no influence, but maybe I'm kidding myself. Explicitly and implicitly, Jews have been getting this message for millennia. As Murray pointed out, the Bible is full of instructions to marry within the faith. A culture that trains its young people to procreate only with one another becomes, over time, a genetically distinct population. And if that culture glorifies intelligence to such a degree that it drives less intelligent people out of the community—or prevents them from attracting mates—it becomes an IQ machine. Cultural selection replaces natural selection. For example, Jews have long emphasized male literacy. For this reason, Murray argued, anyone who was Jewish and stupid 2,000 years ago found "it was a lot easier to be a Christian." Entine called this kind of process a "bio-cultural feedback loop." The theory still sounds arrogant, until you hear the IQ machine's possible costs. Some scholars now hypothesize that the genes that make Jews smart also give some of them nasty diseases such as Tay-Sachs. Entine finds this plausible. He pointed out that some genes associated with brain growth are also associated with breast cancer, including in his own family. During the question-and-answer session, someone brought up another tradeoff: Supposedly, Jews are deficient in visio-spatial skills, possibly because their brains allot extra space for verbal intelligence. That might explain the average Ashkenazi Jewish score of 122 on verbal IQ tests. Pondering these nuances and tradeoffs, Zoloth reconsidered her aversion to the idea of Jewish genes and Jewish intelligence. What should we do, she wondered, if we find genes that predispose children both to genius and to early death? And should Jewish biological differences be minimized if they're expressions of—and vehicles for—Judaism as a value system? Zoloth didn't have answers to those questions. Neither do I. Part of being Jewish, after all, is talking in questions more than answers. Whether that habit is cultural or biological, I don't know. But this much I can tell you: I walked out of the AEI conference room that day with a cut on my nose because, in an attempt to pick something up off the floor, I whacked my face on the chair in front of me. Probably I'm just a moron. But maybe visio-spatial deficiency really is a sign of intelligence, in which case, I'd like to thank my ancestors for making the trade. Including my uncle, who, come to think of it, may not be childless after all.
Jewgenics
Jewish intelligence, Jewish genes, and Jewish values.
By William Saletan
Posted Thursday, Nov. 1, 2007, at 7:54 AM ET
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#1. To: Tauzero (#0)
Where to start?
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Should read "was half a percent." The baby boomers were the last of the pure breds. This next fifteen years will be the Jewish political power twilight.
How about Jewish ugliness?
Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.
This is as racist as the premise of this article. Are Ashkenazi-Jews intelligent? Part I.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
Where to start? Organic rolling stock over forged framewerk?
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
Fair chance, yes.
For this reason, Murray argued, anyone who was Jewish and stupid 2,000 years ago found "it was a lot easier to be a Christian." Entine called this kind of process a "bio-cultural feedback loop."
#2. To: Tauzero (#0)
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According to Entine, the rate of Jewish "outbreeding"—procreating with non-Jews —
is half a percent 
#3. To: robin (#1)
Where to start?
#4. To: All (#1)
#5. To: robin (#1)
"bio-cultural feedback loop."
#6. To: SmokinOPs (#2)
This next fifteen years will be the Jewish political power twilight.
 | I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives. |
#7. To: YertleTurtle, robin, ghostdogtxn, Burkeman1, rowdee, Diana, christine, All (#3)
robin; Where to start? Yertle: Where to start? How about Jewish ugliness? b. What should we do, she wondered, if we find genes that predispose children both to genius and to early death? And should Jewish biological differences be minimized if they're expressions of—and vehicles for—Judaism as a value system? This article is not what one might think from the title. This article is written by Jews preening about their intellectual superiority. This is an eye- opener to the one-way street on racial exclusivity and specialness. Har, har, har...Turtle - good one! Touché! You got that straight. In college the Jewish boys were always making moves on gentile girls because it was their last chance to be with someone pretty/cute/nice before having to marry the family picked Jewish uggly princess. Sorry to be so crass but these arrogant smug wise-a**es in Slate and the AEI started their hoity-toity we're better than you positioning so what they started, let me a lowly dumbchuk Christian gentile complete. This chest thumping we're so perfect grand standing is a real piss-off, considering that the Jewish intellectual philosophers, sociologists, educators,pyschologists, politicians were the very ones who promoted for Western society the wonders of inter-marriage, multi-culturalism, cross-breed vigor - ha! the joke is on us white gentile smucks, right? Wrong - in-breeding causes bad diseases. So smart but no one had the intelligence of a high school graduate dog-breeder to realize the long term consequences. He who laughs last laughs best. But from the concerns expressed in the article, one can see that the wiley minds are thinking, grinding, whirring ...oh, hell, maybe we should cross breed a bit with the lowly ones if it means it will save us in the long run. Nice. Our children will viewed as the antidotes to life threatening in- breeding diseases - so many cross faith weddings to attend... havanagela!
a. article: For this reason, Murray argued, anyone who was Jewish and stupid 2,000 years ago found "it was a lot easier to be a Christian." Entine called this kind of process a "bio-cultural feedback loop."
#8. To: scrapper2 (#7)
amusing..as is this In college the Jewish boys were always making moves on gentile girls because it was their last chance to be with someone pretty/cute/nice before having to marry the family picked Jewish uggly princess.
But from the concerns expressed in the article, one can see that the wiley minds are thinking, grinding, whirring ...oh, hell, maybe we should cross breed a bit with the lowly ones if it means it will save us in the long run. Nice. Our children will viewed as the antidotes to life threatening in- breeding diseases - so many cross faith weddings to attend... havanagela!
#9. To: Tauzero (#0)
For fuck's sake... I'm a mensa member, and my IQ, is well above the purported 115 that they claim is well above the so called average of 100. Guess what? I'm not Jewish either.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
#10. To: scrapper2 (#7)
Several years ago I was walking across a parking lot when I saw two boys, clearly brothers, about 13, approaching me. I couldn't take my eyes off of them, thinking what is wrong with those boys? They were normal, but everything was a little twisted -- faces, bodies, walk. They were white, the color like you find in insects under a rock. I was instantly repulsed and disgusted by them, and was puzzled why I had that reaction. As they passed me, I still kept watching them -- and then I saw they were wearing yarmukes. That's when I realized what "Jewish inbreeding" meant.
Har, har, har...Turtle - good one! Touché! You got that straight.
Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.
#11. To: Tauzero (#0)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
#12. To: Dakmar (#5)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
#13. To: scrapper2 (#7)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
#14. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#9)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
#15. To: ghostdogtxn (#13)
You are absolutely right on that. Thanks for the chuckle. Perhaps I shouldn't have taken the insults in this article so seriously. But honestly in some people chutzbah knows no bounds.
They still won't be able to produce a decent power forward.
#16. To: christine, scrapper 2, all (#8)
I dated several HOT JAP's in college...the ugglies were generally legacy members of the sorority.
In college the Jewish boys were always making moves on gentile girls because it was their last chance to be with someone pretty/cute/nice before having to marry the family picked Jewish uggly princess.
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