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Title: JOHN HAGEE SAYS: “JESUS DID NOT COME TO BE THE MESSIAH”
Source: Apprising Ministries (Blog)
URL Source: http://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/10/john_hagee_says.html
Published: Oct 25, 2007
Author: Ken Silva
Post Date: 2007-11-08 20:18:50 by Red Jones
Keywords: None
Views: 467
Comments: 16

JOHN HAGEE SAYS: “JESUS DID NOT COME TO BE THE MESSIAH”

I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it in the Holy Spirit—I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race, the people of Israel. (Romans 9:1-4)

Do We Believe Hagee Or Do We Believe God?

In the video clip below you will hear for yourself John Hagee say his book In Defense Of Israel “will shake Christian theology.” And further that, “it Scripturally proves...that Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah... It will prove...Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah...”

However, God the Holy Spirit informs us in John’s eyewitness deposition we call the Gospel of John – The woman said, “I know that Messiah (called Christ) is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.” Then Jesus declared, “I Who speak to you am He” (John 4:25-26).

So whose testimony are you going to believe? Hagee or God. The Truth is that Dr. John MacArthur is correct when he says, “An individual Jew today is saved like anybody else is, by faith in Christ. And, apart from that, there is no salvation.” (Online source)


Poster Comment:

I think John Hagee's gone off the deep end. Perhaps he overdosed on donuts.

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#1. To: All (#0)

somebody on this forum used the phrase 'pre-new testament christian'. and I think that fits John Hagee.

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-11-08   20:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Red Jones (#0)

He should change his last name to Schwartz and get it over with.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-08   20:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Red Jones (#0)

Hes out of his flipping mind.. Jesus DID claim to be the Messiah.. he said it over and over again... how? By quoting Messianic scripture .. they knew very well what he meant.. that is why he was so hated and why they plotted against him... Hagee is a heretic.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-08   20:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

I think he gets a bigger thrill out of worshiping jews than being one.

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-11-08   20:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#3)

And he's got a church with a membership of 14,000 down in Texas! Do these people not read and study their Bible? Why aren't they running for their lives away from this heretic?

rowdee  posted on  2007-11-08   21:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Red Jones (#1)

somebody on this forum used the phrase 'pre-new testament christian'. and I think that fits John Hagee.

That is precisely the term to describe rapture nutters. Jesus is an afterthought to these nutters. See- rapture nutterism is a thinly veiled tribal ethos. The Old Testament killer vengeful God of wraith is the God they worship- a tribal protector God who will smite and bring ruin and misery to their enemies while "saving" them only.

Rapture nutters are far more likely to quote the Old Testament than the New. And even though it is hard to make Jesus into a martial figure- they manage to do even that.

These people are not Christians in any theological way. Indeed- Muslims have more of a connection and reverence for Jesus than your typical Rapture Nutting American.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-08   21:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Red Jones (#4)

I think he gets a bigger thrill out of worshiping jews than being one.

He's a Jew?

It is not too hard for Jews to get people to do their bidding. By having an intimate relationship with Lucifer they can easily get those that are false Christians to do their Satan's will. Jesus didn't call their place of worship the Synagogue of Satan for no reason.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2007-11-08   21:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rowdee (#5)

And he's got a church with a membership of 14,000 down in Texas! Do these people not read and study their Bible? Why aren't they running for their lives away from this heretic?

I'm sure some of them are, but more come into fill their place so they might maintain their numbers. Hagee has exposed himself just as Robertson and Dobson have as false Christians. All true Christians that are not brain impaired know that they are false teachers now. The only problem is that there are not too many true Christians left in America.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2007-11-08   22:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: RickyJ (#8)

The only problem is that there are not too many true Christians left in America.

I believe there are more at this 4um than there are in Hagee's war-crazed congregation...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-11-08   22:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Red Jones (#0)

He's clearly a useful idiot to someone.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-10   21:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rowdee (#5)

Why aren't they running for their lives away from this heretic?

they can't run away from him. he's too big.

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-11-10   21:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Burkeman1 (#6)

The Old Testament killer vengeful God of wraith is the God they worship- a tribal protector God who will smite and bring ruin and misery to their enemies while "saving" them only.

And if you want to have some fun with them, remind them that God flooded the planet to kill off all of the alien/human hybrids.

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2007-11-10   21:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Red Jones (#0) (Edited)

Man and Pat Robertson sold himself to Guiliani the pro abortion candidate!

CrossDressingNazi  posted on  2007-11-13   7:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Red Jones (#0)

I'm glad he said this. It means he's on his way out.

These days, a lot of Christians are stupid, but they're not stupid enough to fall for this, en masse.

Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-11-13   7:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Red Jones (#0)

I think Hagee has been listening to the Ministry.....

Jayzuz built my hot rod.

Ragin1  posted on  2007-11-13   8:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Red Jones (#0)

The Truth is that Dr. John MacArthur is correct when he says, “An individual Jew today is saved like anybody else is, by faith in Christ. And, apart from that, there is no salvation.”

MacArthur remains steadfast. Let us pray that more will 'stand firm.' *Many* are falling away, to the continued disgrace of Christianity.

Old Fud  posted on  2007-11-13   22:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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