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Title: NY Dairy Farmer Turns the Tables When the Ag Inspectors Arrive for a Mystery Visit
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Published: Nov 9, 2007
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2007-11-09 11:20:47 by innieway
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Views: 523
Comments: 33

Over the last two weeks, Andrea Elliott has been writing emails to farm associations, her Congressman, and members of the U.S. House and Senate agriculture committees-- -all urging that the upcoming farm bill not include funding for the National Animal Identification System (NAIS). She and her husband, Jim, own a dairy farm in the Catskill Mountains of New York, and she made it plain in her notes that she is adamantly opposed to registering the farm's 80 cows under the federal program.

Yesterday (Monday) she received a call from an inspector with the New York Department of Food and Markets in Albany that he planned to come by the farm for a special inspection, based on "a complaint" made to the department's Division of Milk Control and Dairy Services.

Andrea couldn't imagine who might have complained, and what the complaint might have been about. Her farm, Crystal Brook Farms, sells nearly all its milk to a local creamery for pasteurization. She sells a few gallons of raw milk occasionally to individuals who stop in with their own containers, under New York rules that allow sale of 25 gallons a month without a permit.

Today (Tuesday), the inspector, Bradley Lyle Houck, arrived from Albany, two hours away, together with her regular local dairy inspector, and Andrea was prepared. As soon as they arrived, "I turned on my video camera. I think that made them a little uncomfortable. "

Then, she says, "I asked the state inspector to fill out my form." Her form is a three-page "public service questionnaire" that asks for the inspector's identity, his principal reason for doing the inspection, how the information he gathers will be used, and other such data. "He shook his head and refused," says Andrea. "He said, 'I have to be authorized by Albany.'" He tried to make a call on his cell phone, but couldn't complete the call because the farm area has no cell reception.

Andrea persisted. "I said, This is our property and I can require you to fill it out.'" He offered his state ID and badge.

Andrea moved on. "I asked him why he was here and he said a complaint was received in Albany."

What was the complaint? "He said he couldn't tell me."

Who filed the complaint? "He wouldn't tell me. He just wouldn't go any further. He said all complaints that come into Albany are treated as confidential. "

"I asked him what statute allows a complaint to be treated as confidential. He said he couldn't quote a statute."

At that point, the inspector asked if they could talk off-camera. Andrea declined.

"He said, 'I guess the best thing would be for us to come back another time." The two got back into their car and took off.

Andrea adds, "At no time did I deny him the inspection. I didn't ask him to leave. All I did was ask him for specific reasons for the inspection.. .I have a right to know who my accuser is."

Andrea seems to have added an entirely new dimension to the agricultural inspection. Especially one with such an intriguing coincidence connecting it to NAIS.


Poster Comment:

Here is a prime example of someone KNOWING that we STILL have rights in this country IF you KNOW what they are and HOW TO APPLY THEM.

NO ONE BUT YOU can assert your rights!!! Don't be fooled into thinking that assertion of your "rights" is something your lawyer can do for you. YOU must know WHAT they are, and WHEN and HOW to use them to have them. Otherwise, then NO - you DON'T have rights...

Here is a very important court decision (which has NOT be repealed) which outlines this perfectly. In US. vs.Johnson (76 Fed Supp. 538), Federal District Court Judge James Alger Fee ruled that:
"The privilege against self-incrimination is neither accorded to the passive resistant, nor to the person who is ignorant of his rights, nor to one indifferent thereto. It is a FIGHTING clause. It's benefits can be retained only by sustained COMBAT. It cannot be claimed by attorney or solicitor. It is valid only when insisted upon by a BELLIGERENT claimant in person."

It would probably be a good idea for everyone to have copies of the "public service questionnaire", and be ready to use them. You can download the form here.

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#25. To: innieway (#0)

PUBLIC SERVANT'S QUESTIONAIRE

Public Law 93-579 states in part: "The purpose of this Act is to provide certain safeguards for an individual against invasion of personal privacy by requiring Federal agencies... to permit an individual to determine what records pertaining to him are collected, maintained, used, or disseminated by such agencies."

The following questions are based upon that act and are necessary in order that this individual may make a reasonable determination concerning divulgence of information to this agency.

1. Name of public servant (please print) .........................................

2. Residence ......................................................

City .................................. State ..................... Zip .................

3. Name of department, bureau, or agency by which public servant is employed: .........................................................

supervisor's name ...............................................

4. Department, bureau, or agency 's mailing address....................................

City .......................... State ..................... Zip .................

5. Did public servant furnish proof of identity? Yes/No ................

7. What was the nature of proof? ...........................................

6. Will public servant uphold the Constitution of the United States?

7. Does this public servant know what my natural rights are?

8. Will this public servant help protect my natural rights?

9. Does this public servant know the restrictions against government agents and the government in the ten Bill of Rights?

10. Can this public servant know there is no law or rule making which allows him to violate the 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th Amendments in the Bill of Rights?

11. Does this public servant know that when he violates 'law' he is liable in his personal and official capacity?

12. Does this public servant know that under Constitutionally guaranteed common law violators of my natural rights may be held liable for damages of my natural rights under the Laws of Nature's God and can be held accountable in the personal and/or official capacity?

13. Will public servant furnish a copy of the law or regulation which authorizes this investigation or request for private information?

14. Will the public servant read aloud the portion of the law authorizing the request for private information?

15. Are the answers to the questions or requests for private information voluntary or mandatory?

16. Are the questions to be asked based upon a specific law/regulation, or are they being used as a discovery process?

17. What other uses may be made of this information?

18. What other agencies may have access to this information?

19. What will be the effect upon me if I should choose not to answer any part or all of these questions or requests for private information?

20. Name of person in government requesting that this investigation or request for private information be made...................................................

21. Is this investigation 'general' or is it 'special'?

22. Have you consulted, questioned, interviewed, or received information from any third party relative to this investigation or request for private information?

23. If so, the identity of such third parties................................................

24. Do you reasonably anticipate either a civil or criminal action to be initiated or pursued based upon any of the requested information?

25. Is there a file of records, information, or correspondence relating to me being maintained by this agency? If yes, which and how do I identify and obtain a copy of it?

26. Is this agency using any information pertaining to me which was supplied by another agency or government source?

27. If so, please deliver to me a copy of that information. I demand the documents be delivered within 10 days. The very existence of these documents may already be damaging my rights and privacy for which some one needs to be held accountable.

28. Will the public servant guarantee that the information in these files will not be used by any other department other than the one by whom he is employed? If not, why not?

If any request for information relating to me is received from any person or agency, you must advise me in writing before releasing such information. Failure to do so may subject you to possible civil or criminal action as provided by the act. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PUBLIC SERVANT'S DECLARATION

I (public servant's name here, please print) ............................ declare that the answers I have given to the foregoing questions are complete and correct in every particular.

X ____________________________ Date: ________/_________/_____________

Witness:________________________ Witness:__________________________

http://www.svpvril.com/cofe.html#PUBLIC

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2007-11-09   18:56:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: DeaconBenjamin (#25)

This content is very similar to the form I linked to. The biggest differences are questions 7 through 12, which are really not necessary anyhow. As I stated in my original comment following the article, YOU are the one that has to know and claim YOUR rights - the public servant who is the subject of this questionnaire CANNOT do it for you. And if you KNOW and ASSERT your rights, and said servant violates them, you have recourse. Why warn them you have that option? They should KNOW THEIR rights!

Besides, I kind of like the "look" of the one I linked to - it looks much more "official", and prints out very nicely. (Just scroll down until your Acrobat reader is showing page 3 and choose the option to print only "current page")

innieway  posted on  2007-11-09   20:45:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#29. To: innieway (#28)

Sorry, I didn't see the jumpcite.

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