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Title: NY Dairy Farmer Turns the Tables When the Ag Inspectors Arrive for a Mystery Visit
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Published: Nov 9, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-11-09 11:20:47 by innieway
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Comments: 33

Over the last two weeks, Andrea Elliott has been writing emails to farm associations, her Congressman, and members of the U.S. House and Senate agriculture committees-- -all urging that the upcoming farm bill not include funding for the National Animal Identification System (NAIS). She and her husband, Jim, own a dairy farm in the Catskill Mountains of New York, and she made it plain in her notes that she is adamantly opposed to registering the farm's 80 cows under the federal program.

Yesterday (Monday) she received a call from an inspector with the New York Department of Food and Markets in Albany that he planned to come by the farm for a special inspection, based on "a complaint" made to the department's Division of Milk Control and Dairy Services.

Andrea couldn't imagine who might have complained, and what the complaint might have been about. Her farm, Crystal Brook Farms, sells nearly all its milk to a local creamery for pasteurization. She sells a few gallons of raw milk occasionally to individuals who stop in with their own containers, under New York rules that allow sale of 25 gallons a month without a permit.

Today (Tuesday), the inspector, Bradley Lyle Houck, arrived from Albany, two hours away, together with her regular local dairy inspector, and Andrea was prepared. As soon as they arrived, "I turned on my video camera. I think that made them a little uncomfortable. "

Then, she says, "I asked the state inspector to fill out my form." Her form is a three-page "public service questionnaire" that asks for the inspector's identity, his principal reason for doing the inspection, how the information he gathers will be used, and other such data. "He shook his head and refused," says Andrea. "He said, 'I have to be authorized by Albany.'" He tried to make a call on his cell phone, but couldn't complete the call because the farm area has no cell reception.

Andrea persisted. "I said, This is our property and I can require you to fill it out.'" He offered his state ID and badge.

Andrea moved on. "I asked him why he was here and he said a complaint was received in Albany."

What was the complaint? "He said he couldn't tell me."

Who filed the complaint? "He wouldn't tell me. He just wouldn't go any further. He said all complaints that come into Albany are treated as confidential. "

"I asked him what statute allows a complaint to be treated as confidential. He said he couldn't quote a statute."

At that point, the inspector asked if they could talk off-camera. Andrea declined.

"He said, 'I guess the best thing would be for us to come back another time." The two got back into their car and took off.

Andrea adds, "At no time did I deny him the inspection. I didn't ask him to leave. All I did was ask him for specific reasons for the inspection.. .I have a right to know who my accuser is."

Andrea seems to have added an entirely new dimension to the agricultural inspection. Especially one with such an intriguing coincidence connecting it to NAIS.


Poster Comment:

Here is a prime example of someone KNOWING that we STILL have rights in this country IF you KNOW what they are and HOW TO APPLY THEM.

NO ONE BUT YOU can assert your rights!!! Don't be fooled into thinking that assertion of your "rights" is something your lawyer can do for you. YOU must know WHAT they are, and WHEN and HOW to use them to have them. Otherwise, then NO - you DON'T have rights...

Here is a very important court decision (which has NOT be repealed) which outlines this perfectly. In US. vs.Johnson (76 Fed Supp. 538), Federal District Court Judge James Alger Fee ruled that:
"The privilege against self-incrimination is neither accorded to the passive resistant, nor to the person who is ignorant of his rights, nor to one indifferent thereto. It is a FIGHTING clause. It's benefits can be retained only by sustained COMBAT. It cannot be claimed by attorney or solicitor. It is valid only when insisted upon by a BELLIGERENT claimant in person."

It would probably be a good idea for everyone to have copies of the "public service questionnaire", and be ready to use them. You can download the form here.

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#30. To: innieway (#0)

I dunno about the facts of this case, but here's why they do it and should do it more.

A father and son are facing several charges, including feeding garbage to pigs and animal cruelty, following raids on their Carroll County farm where several hogs have tested positive for trichinosis.

State agricultural officials face growing concerns about the spread of trichinosis after three Carroll County pigs tested positive for the parasitic disease.

Officials from The Department of Agriculture told WJZ's Mike Hellgren that the pigs were from a farm in New Windsor. Carroll Schisler, 60, the farm's owner, and his son, Carroll Schisler Jr., 34, were arrested last week on a 19-count indictment that also included federal charges of operating a slaughterhouse without a license.

The arrests followed raids in March and April, in which investigators discovered piles of dead animals and livestock feeding on garbage. At that time, state agriculture officials said a malnourished pig taken from the farm tested positive for trichinosis.

Now, officials confirm that three more pigs believed to have wandered from the farm have tested positive.

State agricultural officials tell WJZ's Mike Hellgren that garbage consumption may have caused the infection to spread. "There appears to be quite a bit of garbage feeding, particularly on carcasses, and those carcasses may be infected with trichinella, and that's the primary was that it's transmitted," authorities said.

Humans and animals contract the disease in the same way - by consuming infected meat. The disease is caused by worm larvae enclosed in capsules. When the encysted worms are consumed in meat, digestive acids in the stomach dissolve the cyst, releasing the worm and allowing it to mature. The matured worms mate, producing more worms which in turn infect more of the body's muscles.

Trichinella is diagnosed by a blood test and treated with prescription drugs. It usually goes away even without treatment but can cause death in severe cases.

Symptoms range from mild to severe, depending on the number of infectious worms consumed in meat. The first signs of infection are nausea, fever, vomiting, abdominal discomfort, diarrhea and fatigue. Following this, infected persons may experience headaches, fevers, chills, cough, eye swelling, aching joints and muscle pains, itchy skin or diarrhea.

Difficulty coordinating movements, heart and breathing problems may plague patients who suffer from a heavy infection. In the most severe cases, trichinella can cause death.

Health officials are concerned that Schisler's cruelty towards animals may be causing a spread of the potentially deadly disease.

Schisler denies responsibility, telling Eyewitness News , "It could not be a health concern from my farm because I bought the pig in a livestock market where there's a Maryland State Agriculture man in every market I buy out of."

"They say about tainted meat and stuff - the animals I buy - if not one else would buy them, they would end up in the grocery store on the meat shelf," Schisler said.

Last week, during an exclusive interview Schisler told Eyewitness News he sells live animals to mostly immigrant customers who slaughter them according to their religious beliefs. At that time, a warrant was out for his arrest on animal cruelty charges.

Roland Walker, the attorney for the elder Schisler, said his client is free on bond. He also said any diseased pigs on the Schisler farm were infected when they were purchased. "The fact that they have trichinosis doesn't suggest they got it at his place," Walker said. "He's only had some of the pigs for a short time."

"I do nothing wrong those animals and to those animals," Schisler said, proclaiming his innocence.

In 1990 Schisler was found not guilty of animal cruelty charges, stemming from an investigation into the same property. "I've been being harassed for 16 years about this, " Schisler said, speaking with WJZ's Mike Hellgren . "I've been in court. I've never lost."

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#33. To: Mekons4 (#30)

Schisler could well be right. Pigs are by FAR the most common carriers of trichinosis. Pigs are horribly nasty creatures that WILL eat just about any vile slop including each others' dead carcasses. I will not eat pork, won't even allow a hog to be on my property.

BUT, past that, the situation is entirely different from the article you posted and the one I posted. If inspectors truly have a warrant and a reason to believe there is a serious situation, then they wouldn't have any problem with filling out the questionnaire. Likewise, people that are licensed to engage in some type of "food production" know and understand routine inspections. BUT "mystery inspections" of reputable establishments which are supposedly done because of "complaints" when nothing has changed to cause a complaint is a horse of a different color.

It all comes down to individual choice. If you feel a need and trust government to take care of you and look out for your best interests, then they'll certainly be there for you to fill that need. I don't have that need, and don't want it (and won't have it) shoved down my throat.

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