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Title: Sen. Hagel says U.S. draft may be unavoidable
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Published: Nov 9, 2007
Author: http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=27
Post Date: 2007-11-09 11:58:50 by tom007
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Sen. Hagel says U.S. draft may be unavoidable BY LESLIE REED WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

LINCOLN — Sen. Chuck Hagel, speaking to an audience of Lincoln High School students, warned Tuesday that the nation may need to turn to compulsory military service "or some kind of draft" to support the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) Questioned after his speech, Hagel, R-Neb., said he is not calling for reinstatement of the military draft.

But he said the growing difficulty of maintaining an adequate volunteer military force is "a reality."

"I'm just stating the obvious. At some point we're going to have to make a decision on how to attract a quality force," he said.

Hagel, a Vietnam veteran and Purple Heart recipient, spoke to more than 120 government and history students as part of a project to have veterans speak to students about their experiences.

The U.S. military draft ended in 1973, part of the bitter reaction to the Vietnam War.

Hagel told the Lincoln students that the burdens of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are being carried by too small a share of the nation's population.

"We have more than 300 million people in this country, but less than 1 percent of our population has to bear all of the burden, to make all of the sacrifices, to do all the fighting and all the dying for the rest of us," he said.

"There are people serving in Iraq for the third time, in Afghanistan for the third time. They're ruining their families, suffering post-traumatic stress disorder and significant injuries. They're not going to bear that burden any longer," he said.

Hagel, who has been a prominent critic of President Bush's Iraq policies, said the nation must make a "difficult assessment" on whether to return to some kind of draft or other form of compulsory national service.

Students listened quietly and said little during Hagel's speech. At the end, Hagel took a handful of pre-selected questions that students had composed on Monday with the aid of their teachers.

Social studies teacher Bill Zuspan said he and his students have discussed the possibility of a draft in the past, and he knows how they will react to Hagel's comments.

"They don't like the idea," he said.

Hagel said he is "well aware" of the sacrifices Lincoln High School has made in the Iraq war. Two graduates, Army 1st Lt. Garrison Avery, 23, and Marine Lance Cpl. Mike Scholl, 21, have died in Iraq.

He urged students to seek solutions besides war to the world's problems.

"Terrorism, extremism, biological weapons, chemical weapons, nuclear weapons — those are a threat to all mankind, not just Christians and not just Americans," he said.

"War is nothing noble or good; it's all about brutality and suffering, and that should frighten you and intimidate you into doing what's right, to prevent going to war."

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#5. To: tom007, All (#0)

a. Hagel, who has been a prominent critic of President Bush's Iraq policies, said the nation must make a "difficult assessment" on whether to return to some kind of draft or other form of compulsory national service.

He urged students to seek solutions besides war to the world's problems.

b. "We have more than 300 million people in this country, but less than 1 percent of our population has to bear all of the burden, to make all of the sacrifices, to do all the fighting and all the dying for the rest of us," he said.

a. Hagel is such a 2-faced sold out a**, I can't stand his snactimonious position -"oh golly I criticized dubya for the Iraq occupation, so that makes me a saint, so listen up kiddies, and join the warpig machinery because it's noble and patriotic."

Buzz off, Hagel. Your "testing the winds for conscription in fly over America" is a rather transparent ploy.

After Hagel talks up the need for conscription, as an after-thought he adds that war is not a good solution. I wish parents were allowed to be present when Hagel made his pitch to minors for conscription.

b. Maybe Hagel did not realize this but even though nearly 60% of American Jews favored an Iraq invasion in 2002, less than 2/10 of 1 per cent of American Jews serve in the military. Partcipation in the marines for American Jews is even worse.

Fighting and dying for the rest of us indeed. Screw Hagel and his half-truths.

Source for stats is mondo weiss 10/28/07 comments:

Only some 3,000 out of 1.4 million active duty servicemen and women are Jewish, about two-tenths of one percent. When it comes to Marines, the numbers are even more startling. It’s one out of 1,000. One-tenth of one percent. That gives new meaning to the term "minority."

www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=11368

American Jews were generally behind the idea of the war at the beginning, at least according to the AJC's survey ( 59%):

www.ajc.org/site/apps/nl/...PHKoG&b=838459&ct =1051619

Also, American Jews are not averse to fighting for the IDF

"Record Number of Americans Join Israeli Army"

scrapper2  posted on  2007-11-09   12:31:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: scrapper2 (#5)

The wars are based on lies from top to bottom. That no one cares that they are based on lies from top to bottom is because they effect no one. Enact a draft and people will care and these wars will end, in even less time than Vietnam.

Baring martial law and the willingness to shoot americans like Stalin did Russians in the hundred of thousands in secret police basements- there will be no draft. Period. A draft would mean social and cultural explosion.

And anyway- the job that DC needs done in the ME- killing lots of innocent people- is suited just fine for criminals and illegal aliens and rural trash. This isn't a war so much as slum clearence and you need thugs for that- not soldiers.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-09   17:34:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Burkeman1 (#15)

Enact a draft and people will care and these wars will end, in even less time than Vietnam...A draft would mean social and cultural explosion.

Time is the problem, burke. How many fedgov military male slaves would die or get badly wounded or have their souls and minds warped until DC feels it is most inconvenient to have anti-draft protests televised around the world?

With regards to Vietnam, anti-war protests began in 1965 but the draft did not end until 1973. Even if a draft today would end in even less time than Vietnam, that's still too long a time.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-11-10   4:25:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: scrapper2 (#21)

I doubt a draft would last a year. Communism was a "threat" many Americans believed in. "Islam" isn't. No one but the rubes, sissies, and dopes think the "WOT" is necessary - the hard core BOT 25 percenters. And that 25 percent would shrink to 10 percent if a draft was enacted.

These wars continue and are possible only because Americans are required to contribute nothing - not even having their taxes raised. But give Americans a reason to sit down and read every news story on the war- listen closely to the moron lies out of DC politician mouths? These wars would be over in two seconds.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-10   4:46:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: Burkeman1 (#22) (Edited)

I doubt a draft would last a year. Communism was a "threat" many Americans believed in. "Islam" isn't. No one but the rubes, sissies, and dopes think the "WOT" is necessary - the hard core BOT 25 percenters. And that 25 percent would shrink to 10 percent if a draft was enacted.

A good way to estimate the number of rubes who believe in WOT is the approval rating of Bush. The fact that it's gone down from 50% to about 20% means that 60% of the marks have wised up, at least a little.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-10 13:55:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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