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Title: Goldi Bans Ron Paul Articles makes up lies as a cover story
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URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=206532
Published: Nov 10, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-11-10 23:34:29 by F.A. Hayek Fan
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Views: 15418
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A few months ago, we had a lot of GARBAGE posts on the right sidebar. They were all FRIVOLOUS stories about Ron Paul. Up until today I liked him. But his supporters have come here to spam LP, and now I DON'T like HIM or THEM. I was reasonable in the past and asked that articles be posted here that were NEWSWORTHY ABOUT HIM, WITH A LIMIT OF 2 A DAY. Just this evening, there were 13 posted. THIRTEEN!!! And not ONE of them had anything newsworthy to report. All of them were of the variety: "Alert, Ron Paul just scratched his crotch!!" Or "Ron Paul stepped in dogs**t". The supporters of Ron Paul have PROVEN that they cannot control themselves. "Reasonable" is not a word in their vocabulary. So, due to their IRRESPONSIBLE and IRRATIONAL behavior, their SPAMMING of Liberty Post...I have made a decision: FROM THE TIME THIS IS POSTED...NO RON PAUL ARTICLES ARE TO BE POSTED HERE AT ALL. EVER. (ONE EXCEPTION: IF HE GETS ASSASSINATED OR SOMETHING SIMILAR AND IS 24/7 ON ALL NEWS CHANNELS. [Probability is less than zero on that.]) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Paulites: You did it to yourself. Not me. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Our bandwidth has gone from $240 to $365 for the past two months, and it has depleted our funds to negative zero. Which means I have to pony it up....and will need to run a fundraiser SOONER because of it. Face it folks, they stole it from YOU!! The contributors of LP!! I don't think those who contributed money to keep LP up and running meant for it to be used for some stupid unreasonble spammers to run amok on. So, just to be clear.... NO MORE ARTICLES ABOUT RON PAUL ARE PERMITED ON THIS WEBSITE. VIOLATORS WILL BE BANNED. NOT EVEN ONE NOT EVEN TWO ZERO!!! If this thread gets out of control...it goes to the Biker Bar or will be REPOSTED without the remarks, and the remarks will be removed. Note: For those who feel that they cannot stay on LP due to this decision: Sorry, but that's the way it is. Find or FUND someplace that is all Paul all the time. The abuse of LP ends today. I don't care who likes it or not. You've made your bed, now you get to sleep in it. This decision is NOT open for discussion. This is a "command decision" or what ever you choose to call it: Edict; directive; command, whatever. It is what it is. A RULE. And I don't care if you hate me or not.
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#199. To: rowdee (#196)
Good analogy. Have you ever owned any Boer goats - for some reason, I'm fascinated by the breed.
Yes, I am.. been here for a very long time.. just have real life to address, hence my not posting much anymore.. as for LP.. I saw this happen at Lucy's site, Pipebompnews, FR and now LP.. Damn Shame..
it won't happen here. you can take that to the bank. great to see you again, RF.
TY.. as always.. Freedom will find a place to go forward..
true, except I don't know what Pipebompnews is.
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You, my dear, are just flat handsome period. Totally attractive all the way around. I'm extremely infatuated with you.
Great.. Now I have to deal with 82 with a big head... (insert head slapping smiley here) evil grin! LOL
.. absolutely.. ;)
What are you going to do Sherlock? Inquiring minds would like to know. Now be truthful when you tell us because you already told us a lie like the bushbots always do. Yes you can vote for him simply by registering Republican and vote in your primary race for Ron Paul. Then you can go back to the party of hiliary for the general election. Simple as that. Exactly what I have done. This coming primary will be the first one that I will be able to vote in as I basically am registered Independent. And just as you say you can't vote for him in the primary, it truthfully is because you deep down have a desire for one of the other candidates. ....and by the way, since you have already called Dr. Pauls defeat and really don't support him, why not return to freak republic whenst you came. I can remember your rantings on there shilling for bushkie. This forum apparently has nothing to offer you and you know the members here are giving of there time and money trying not only to get Ron Paul elected, but in partnership with him trying to save this country by living and governing under our Constitution. Your negatism is outta place here. Maybe hiliary or rudy could use your help. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way over to see one of them. You must be a lonley person. How sad!
The vast majority of posts did not come from supporters. They came from trolls who were spamming your site with all the dirt they could find. One "sardine sandwich" comes to mind as someone dredging up anything possible and slinging it at your site. There is a distinction on this. Now, these twinks have gone over to other sites to spew their stuff. Same people, same MO. It was not the supporters. It was the detractors. Why do people keep trying to convince Goldi she's made a mistake and are pointing to the wrong group? Shes fully aware of who and what is posted..this is not a case of mistaken identity this is is the RNC taking a dump on LP.
Like the great Forest Gump likes to say, "stupid is as stupid does". First of all, I am as likely to register GOP as I am to register Demo or Nazi. I have no intention of staining my reputation that way. Second, I keep saying that RP DOES have a chance to actually win. By LEAVING the Stupid/Evil party. You may or you may not be able to comprehend my point but, before you try to pass that tall challenge, make an attempt to at least familiarize yourself with it.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Doing nothing is the same as condoning the status quo. The stain rests with you.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Like it or not, people like brand names like Republican and Democrat, even if they don't mean anything. Ron Paul realized that to get elected to Congress, he had to run as "R" rather than Libertarian, whether he liked it or not. Another example: remember that Pat Buchanan won some primaries when he ran in 1992 and 1996 as a Republican, and wound up with 0.4% of the vote when he ran 3d party. I hate the GOP as much as anyone, but I also realize that the only way for a candidate with a good message to break through is within the two party system. I'll cringe when I do it, but I'll register GOP in this election just like I did in 1992/6.
In 2008 the 2 'candidates' presented by the Demos and the GOPs are going to be so similar, it would be very difficult to brainwash the masses again into believing that they are making a meaningful choice by voting for one of the 2. Again, RP has ZERO chances of being nominated by the party of Bush, Giuliani and Podhoretz. This is the way it is and him raising one trillion dollars would not change it. However, as in independent (NOT THIRD PARTY) he might beat the monster and the robot (guess who's who :)) ). By the way, if he DOES win the presidency, I expect him to be assassinated - a great pretext for imposing a full police state - or to get very sick very quickly and die, which would be good for Goldie's site because she will be able to allow one last RP article to be posted there.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Then Paul should stay in the GOP for the primaries to make the biggest impact, and then run Third Party in the General Election (even though he says that he will not do this). I can't wait to hear the GOPidiots shouting that a vote for 3d party Paul is a vote "stolen" from Giuliani, even though no Paul voter would ever support Giuliani anyway.
This is why he should NOT stay for the primaries: - There will be no time for him to organize after the primaries. The time to get out of the GOP swamp is one minute after the last GOP debate ends.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
If he runs now as an independent he wont get the publicity that he needs .. the MSM will not give him the time of day.
Don't forget the apathetic voters who don't bother to register and/or vote because they believe all politicians are corrupt. That makes up about 60% of eligable voters, and Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate on either side that has the potential to tap into that base. Obviously getting all those votes means you don't even need to get a single vote from any voter from the 2000 or 2004 election to win.
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True, but if he were running as a Libertarian right now instead of a Republican, he'd be completely invisible. Even Pat Buchanan became invisible the minute he went from GOP to Reform Party.
Nope on the Boers.........I had my hands full with the Angoras--at least I got a valuable, rather easily sellable product from them in the Mohair. But if I never have another goat or pig it will be tooooooooo soon. The Boer muscularly reminds me of the double muscled Piedmont cattle of Italy. I have seem a couple of them, and they were like musclebound. AND, in both cases--the Piedmont and the Boer--the cost was over=rated. They tried the same thing with the llamas and alpacas--very high costs, and then it got to where they were trying to give away llamas. Ditto on cashmere goats--only with them it is a real crap shoot, because crossbreds do not breed true and it takes a good while to set a breed. And a crossbred non-cashmere goat is about good for weed patch patrol, if you're lucky; else they're into rose bushes, and everything else they can possibly get in to.
How about the Emu craze? No telling how many of those suckers are running wild today.
Well even if that's true, the defunct plurality election system only allows one vote per voter in the R primaries, and there are some 8 candidates. So if Ron gets the 30% of R's that have had it with the war and the other seven split the remaining 70% (10% each), then Ron wins the R nomination.
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Vast, we are sitting on one now, and you expect the people here to ignore that fact, and move to marginalize the one candidate that speaks of civil liberties? I'd loan you a sandwich but that won't help your picnic.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Once the primaries begin he will be getting near-zero coverage no matter what. As you might have noticed, all primaries coverage is about horse races, not ideas and only the first 2 or 3 top 'vote getters' are covered. In the GOP, those are going to be Giuliani, Romney and Thompson/McCain. Ron Paul, Hunter and Tancredo are going to be the weirdos given a couple of seconds, just for laughs.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
With each post I see you are doing your part for Paul's support. BUSTED!
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
As an independent? He'd be in worse shape than the L party--IIRC, they, at least, are recognized by some states as a legit party based on prior voting stats. Ron, to get on the ballot in every state, would have hurdles such as not seen before. Candidates today are raising $80 - $100 million........hell, Ron would need that to face the hurdles each state's demon and repuk party try to raise to 'legit' keep him off the ballot. Find the stories about Perot and what it took in NY alone! And not just 'legal' fees; he was having to pay people to collect signatures in fast time. This 'independent' stuff is just another hurdle being tossed out there for Ron Paul to have to jump over. Next hurdle will be 'well, they could just write his name in'.......sure they can......as soon as he is able to make contact with all voters.....because they sure as hell won't see him on tv.......and with all the campaign funds going to legal fees and other such crap, there won't be big bucks to advertise his face, whether pretty, ugly, or in between, that would make his name known or remembered by anyone. The two-headed monster made all the campaign and election rules to 99.999% guarantee one or the other of them are elected.
Why do you think Colin Powell's wife did not want CP to run for Prez? And, why do you think Perot decided to drop his candidacy? I can't say that I have the answers but, it's quite interesting, isn't it?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I do not support RP running as a GOP. There is little or no association between the GOP and ideals that are dear to me such as freedom, individualism, intelligence. If RP's goal is to 'heal' his party, then fine, let him try but then he's not running for US prez. I want an American, representing people like me in the White House, not a GOP, nominated by and representing the GOP party.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I can tell you a little bit about the apathetic voter. First and foremost, you have to be able to reach out to them, to talk to them. Their names aren't on the polling records kept by the counties and given to campaigns (for a fee). It would take cross referencing with phone directories--and how do you get those cell-phone folks. When I ran for office, one of the most disheartening things I encountered was the apathetic voter. Going door to door and meeting folks who l) didn't even know an election was coming up or 2) wouldn't bother to register or vote because 'they're all crooked'. Trying to break through the latter one is the hardest to accomplish. You can't just walk up and say, hi, here's my brochure and leave---these people need the one on on contact to talk through, to be convinced there is a difference. My heart wasn't in it; and there was only a handful of those that I bothered to make contact with again. And so, if Ron has tons and tons of local volunteers, these folks have to be prepared especially for this type of confrontation--it knocks the wind out of ones' sail, so to speak.
I see you changing the goalpost each time your argument is slammed. Why is that? Because YOU, are lying about your support. Why don't you tell us all the reasons to give up hope. Don't you think RP knows all of which you allude? Don't you think we do? And yet you wish to perpetuate the fear to accept the status quo. Coward!~
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
And it's worked like a charm for at least half a century now. Let's take our Country back this time.
Uh huh. Sure you do.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
I have friends here who raised them.......and tried the EMU oil routine.....the wife even used the pretty egg shells for crafting--to no avail. She has since died; I don't know about the birds. The same could be said of the beefalo and now buffalo craze(s). I want no part of buffalo--you just about need a solid concrete 6 - 8 ft high retaining wall to keep them in. I knew some fellas that got several--they wuz gonna make it with these buffalo cows. They made it all right! One of them broads caused them to lose about 2 weeks worth of work and untold fortune in gas, and a set of tires and a wrecked trailer trying to catch up to here.......everyone up in the valley where they lived were calling them that they sighted the buffalo here, no there, then over there, back down yonder, etc., etc., etc. They had one little place where they had a concrete bunker..........that was changed to where they made a concrete retaining wall on that whole area. I just laughed my butt off--at least with the angoras, they caught their damned heads in the fence and I didn't have to go all over the valley trying to catch up to them little bastards!!!
Yep. Its unfortunate it has to be done this way, but as they say, 'they made the rules and it is their ballgame'. Just as the losing enviros decided to get in the game by using the courts, we can hope we have the candidate that is playing in that game that comes out on top.
And all are watching.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
The entire world wants RP to win - they are sick of American imperialism and tyranny.
LOL :)) Maybe slammed in your mind. We still need to understand how RP wins the GOP nomination. Is he going to carry... what? California? Florida? Pennsylvania? Ohio? I don't think so. His only chance to win the presidency is by separating himself from that gang of crooks and murderers. Do you think that he should have joined the Nazis if that was convenient?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
7.982,530M and climbing.
Pick any Democrat nominee you want, they all want war (except Kucinich and Gravel), the Democratic voters will have only Ron Paul to end the war. I know of 3 CA Democrats who support Ron Paul.
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#200. To: christine (#70)
RF is already a member here
#201. To: Refinersfire (#200)
#202. To: christine (#201)
#203. To: Refinersfire (#200)
I saw this happen at Lucy's site, Pipebompnews, FR and now LP.. Damn Shame..
#204. To: robin (#203)
#205. To: 82Marine89 (#195)
That include me?
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
"I see the Constitution as being written precisely for one purpose -- to restrain the power of government; never to restrain the people" - Ron Paul
#206. To: farmfriend, 82Marine89 (#205)
You, my dear, are just flat handsome period. Totally attractive all the way around. I'm extremely infatuated with you.
#207. To: 82Marine89 (#195)
That include me?
#208. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, All (#89)
What is he going to do after he loses? Endorse Giuliani? Endorse Hillary? Tell his supporters not to vote? Inquiring minds would like to know.
#209. To: All (#207)
Goldi -
#210. To: LACUMO (#208)
....and by the way, since you have already called Dr. Pauls defeat and really don't support him, why not return to freak republic whenst you came. I can remember your rantings on there shilling for bushkie.
#211. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#210)
First of all, I am as likely to register GOP as I am to register Demo or Nazi.
#212. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#210)
Second, I keep saying that RP DOES have a chance to actually win. By LEAVING the Stupid/Evil party.
#213. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#212)
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#214. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#213)
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#215. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#214)
- He will be a 'defeated' GOP rather than a proud 'independent'.
- There are no debates and therefore no more 'exposure', once the primaries begin.
#216. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#215)
#217. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#168)
70% of the Independents (THAT'S WHY HE NEEDS TO RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT), 10-15% of the GOPs and Demos. That should add up to more than 35% which, in a 3-way race, wins the race if the remainder is evenly distributed between the other 2 and within the states.
#218. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#215)
There are no debates and therefore no more 'exposure', once the primaries begin.
#219. To: Refinersfire, 82Marine89, Zipporah (#206)
Great.. Now I have to deal with 82 with a big head... (insert head slapping smiley here) evil grin! LOL
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
"I see the Constitution as being written precisely for one purpose -- to restrain the power of government; never to restrain the people" - Ron Paul
#220. To: lodwick (#199)
#221. To: rowdee (#220)
lol
#222. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#182)
Let me say this again, and again, and again: RP is currently seeking the nomination of the party that, according to any number of polls, is 70% behind George W. Bush and George W. Bush's agenda of war, torture,
#223. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#213)
By the way, if he DOES win the presidency, I expect him to be assassinated - a great pretext for imposing a full police state - or to get very sick very quickly and die, which would be good for Goldie's site because she will be able to allow one last RP article to be posted there.
#224. To: Zipporah (#216)
If he runs now as an independent he wont get the publicity that he needs .. the MSM will not give him the time of day.
#225. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#224)
Once the primaries begin he will be getting near-zero coverage no matter what. As you might have noticed, all primaries coverage is about horse races, not ideas and only the first 2 or 3 top 'vote getters' are covered. In the GOP, those are going to be Giuliani, Romney and Thompson/McCain. Ron Paul, Hunter and Tancredo are going to be the weirdos given a couple of seconds, just for laughs.
#226. To: Zipporah (#216)
#227. To: Peppa (#223)
I'd loan you a sandwich but that won't help your picnic.
#228. To: Peppa (#225)
#229. To: Pinguinite (#217)
Don't forget the apathetic voters who don't bother to register and/or vote because they believe all politicians are corrupt. That makes up about 60% of eligable voters, and Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate on either side that has the potential to tap into that base. Obviously getting all those votes means you don't even need to get a single vote from any voter from the 2000 or 2004 election to win.
#230. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#227)
Why do you think Colin Powell's wife did not want CP to run for Prez? And, why do you think Perot decided to drop his candidacy? I can't say that I have the answers but, it's quite interesting, isn't it?
#231. To: rowdee (#226)
The two-headed monster made all the campaign and election rules to 99.999% guarantee one or the other of them are elected.
#232. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#228)
I do not support RP running as a GOP. There is little or no association between the GOP and ideals that are dear to me such as freedom, individualism, intelligence. If RP's goal is to 'heal' his party, then fine, let him try but then he's not running for US prez. I want an American, representing people like me in the White House, not a GOP, nominated by and representing the GOP party.
#233. To: lodwick (#221)
#234. To: lodwick (#231)
#235. To: rowdee (#234)
we can hope we have the candidate that is playing in that game that comes out on top.
#236. To: Peppa. rowdee. RP friends (#235)
#237. To: Peppa (#230)
I see you changing the goalpost each time your argument is slammed. Why is that?
#238. To: All (#236)
#239. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#237)
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