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Title: Goldi Bans Ron Paul Articles makes up lies as a cover story
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=206532
Published: Nov 10, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-11-10 23:34:29 by F.A. Hayek Fan
Keywords: None
Views: 15686
Comments: 390

A few months ago, we had a lot of GARBAGE posts on the right sidebar. They were all FRIVOLOUS stories about Ron Paul.

Up until today I liked him.

But his supporters have come here to spam LP, and now I DON'T like HIM or THEM.

I was reasonable in the past and asked that articles be posted here that were NEWSWORTHY ABOUT HIM, WITH A LIMIT OF 2 A DAY.

Just this evening, there were 13 posted. THIRTEEN!!! And not ONE of them had anything newsworthy to report.

All of them were of the variety: "Alert, Ron Paul just scratched his crotch!!" Or "Ron Paul stepped in dogs**t".

The supporters of Ron Paul have PROVEN that they cannot control themselves. "Reasonable" is not a word in their vocabulary.

So, due to their IRRESPONSIBLE and IRRATIONAL behavior, their SPAMMING of Liberty Post...I have made a decision:

FROM THE TIME THIS IS POSTED...NO RON PAUL ARTICLES ARE TO BE POSTED HERE AT ALL. EVER. (ONE EXCEPTION: IF HE GETS ASSASSINATED OR SOMETHING SIMILAR AND IS 24/7 ON ALL NEWS CHANNELS. [Probability is less than zero on that.]) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Paulites: You did it to yourself. Not me.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Our bandwidth has gone from $240 to $365 for the past two months, and it has depleted our funds to negative zero. Which means I have to pony it up....and will need to run a fundraiser SOONER because of it.

Face it folks, they stole it from YOU!! The contributors of LP!!

I don't think those who contributed money to keep LP up and running meant for it to be used for some stupid unreasonble spammers to run amok on.

So, just to be clear....

NO MORE ARTICLES ABOUT RON PAUL ARE PERMITED ON THIS WEBSITE. VIOLATORS WILL BE BANNED.

NOT EVEN ONE

NOT EVEN TWO

ZERO!!!

If this thread gets out of control...it goes to the Biker Bar or will be REPOSTED without the remarks, and the remarks will be removed.

Note: For those who feel that they cannot stay on LP due to this decision: Sorry, but that's the way it is. Find or FUND someplace that is all Paul all the time. The abuse of LP ends today. I don't care who likes it or not. You've made your bed, now you get to sleep in it. This decision is NOT open for discussion. This is a "command decision" or what ever you choose to call it: Edict; directive; command, whatever. It is what it is. A RULE. And I don't care if you hate me or not.

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#9. To: Hayek Fan (#0)

I have to admit that a lot of Ron Paul articles are trivial and deal with minutia. I have no desire to see Ron Paul turned into an object of veneration like Bush is at Freakerland. He is a man. Yes- I am excited by his candidacy. Yes- I think he is right on most of the issues. But he is a man. One man. I don't need to know about every online poll. I don't need to know about his every appearence. General news forums shouldn't be clogged up with the daily doings of Ron Paul. Neither should they be clogged up with idiotic anti Paul posts and vanities (which is most of what is posted on LP by the way).

I used to visit the Lew Rockwell blog several times a day- but 90 percent of what they blog about is Ron Paul now- non effing stop- nearly every post. Snoooooze. I visit less now.

Look, Ron Paul is an exciting outside the Beltway candidate who is principled and refreshing. I am glad he is running. But frankly- our Mega DC government is way past the point where any one man can do much to reform it, reel it in, or even effect it that much. There is something a bit off- about a bunch of libertarians and old rightists who don't think the Presidency should have that much power- who constantly complain about how that branch has grown outside of all proportion- who bitch about people looking at the Presidency as some sort of Savior God King seat- cheering on a man night and day running for that seat- like any BOT or Demhead does for their two party fraud candidate.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-10   23:54:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There is something a bit off- about a bunch of libertarians and old rightists who don't think the Presidency should have that much power- who constantly complain about how that branch has grown outside of all proportion- who bitch about people looking at the Presidency as some sort of Savior God King seat- cheering on a man night and day running for that seat- like any BOT or Demhead does for their two party fraud candidate.

You've lost me, Burke. Paul is not running like any BOT or Demhead does. He's "running" (I put "running" in quotes, because he's not really running anything) the most incredible campaign of my lifetime. Incredible, because it perfectly embodies the principles of Libertarianism. What we are witnessing, is spontaneous order created by free men with free minds coming together, bringing their individual creativity and energies to bear like never before in the modern political arena, creaming the top-down, centrally-planned old-style campaigns of the would-be tyrants of the DemGOP Establishment party.

Don't ya get it, Burke? This campaign is not about one man. It's about we, the American people, rising up to take our government back. It is a new chapter in the history of freedom beginning to be written. Why are you so negative about this? Are you afraid we might...actually...WIN?

Arator  posted on  2007-11-11   0:04:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Paul is not running like any BOT or Demhead does. He's "running" (I put "running" in quotes, because he's not really running anything) the most incredible campaign of my lifetime. Incredible, because it perfectly embodies the principles of Libertarianism.

Then, he should quite the GOP ASAP.

The GOP is no longer associated with Libertarianism or with 'liberty' but with war, torture, statism, cult of the leader and, lately, insanity. Ron Paul should separate himself from this organization and OPPOSE the 2 puppets put forward by the two 'major parties'. Now THAT would be 'incredible' and, very likely, EFFECTIVE too.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   8:49:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The GOP is no longer associated with Libertarianism or with 'liberty' but with war, torture, statism, cult of the leader and, lately, insanity. Ron Paul should separate himself from this organization and OPPOSE the 2 puppets put forward by the two 'major parties'. Now THAT would be 'incredible' and, very likely, EFFECTIVE too.

No, Paul is pointing out daily that the GOP has been taken over by nasty forces. He has done this by lifting up the platform Bush ran on in 2000, no nation building, returning dignity and honor to the whitehouse. He has shown that everything THEY said, were packs of lies. Paul's record speaks to each of these pervertions brought upon the country, and further illustrates Democrats veiled objections to the machine rolling over all things Constitutional.

If there is a difference between parties, show it. There is not. However, we are forced to deal with ingrained political thinking that a two party system exists, and it is not not likely easily changed in a cycle or two.

I do watch Lou Dobbs from time to time, and reacently he has been reading emails from people who have changed their party ID to Independent, and can vote either way. This is good news to me. What is best is for people to realize what those parties actually stand for today, as you brilliantly defined. Then, take the next step to stand for a change.

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   9:59:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh, and one more thing: what is the RP strategy for winning the GOP nomination? I would assume that he seeks to get the majority of the GOP delegates and the GOP convention. Right? Can we see the math?

I have an idea of how he could win as an independent but I have no idea whatsoever of how he could possibly win the nomination of the party that continues to be 70% behind Bush after seven years of Bush.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   10:13:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, why bother with the whole thing. Is that it?

Do you have a horse in this race?

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   10:28:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I do. It is RP running as an 'independent'.

I can't vote for him in the GOP primary because I quite the GOP in 1998 or 99 and he clearly can't win the GOP nomination. It would be most disappointing for him to march toward GOP primaries defeat with all these energized supporters behind him.

What is he going to do after he loses? Endorse Giuliani? Endorse Hillary? Tell his supporters not to vote? Inquiring minds would like to know.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   10:33:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

What is he going to do after he loses? Endorse Giuliani? Endorse Hillary? Tell his supporters not to vote? Inquiring minds would like to know.

What are you going to do Sherlock? Inquiring minds would like to know. Now be truthful when you tell us because you already told us a lie like the bushbots always do. Yes you can vote for him simply by registering Republican and vote in your primary race for Ron Paul. Then you can go back to the party of hiliary for the general election. Simple as that.

Exactly what I have done. This coming primary will be the first one that I will be able to vote in as I basically am registered Independent. And just as you say you can't vote for him in the primary, it truthfully is because you deep down have a desire for one of the other candidates.

....and by the way, since you have already called Dr. Pauls defeat and really don't support him, why not return to freak republic whenst you came. I can remember your rantings on there shilling for bushkie.

This forum apparently has nothing to offer you and you know the members here are giving of there time and money trying not only to get Ron Paul elected, but in partnership with him trying to save this country by living and governing under our Constitution. Your negatism is outta place here. Maybe hiliary or rudy could use your help. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way over to see one of them.

You must be a lonley person. How sad!

LACUMO  posted on  2007-11-11   14:58:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

....and by the way, since you have already called Dr. Pauls defeat and really don't support him, why not return to freak republic whenst you came. I can remember your rantings on there shilling for bushkie.

Like the great Forest Gump likes to say, "stupid is as stupid does".

First of all, I am as likely to register GOP as I am to register Demo or Nazi. I have no intention of staining my reputation that way.

Second, I keep saying that RP DOES have a chance to actually win. By LEAVING the Stupid/Evil party.

You may or you may not be able to comprehend my point but, before you try to pass that tall challenge, make an attempt to at least familiarize yourself with it.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   15:09:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Second, I keep saying that RP DOES have a chance to actually win. By LEAVING the Stupid/Evil party.

Like it or not, people like brand names like Republican and Democrat, even if they don't mean anything. Ron Paul realized that to get elected to Congress, he had to run as "R" rather than Libertarian, whether he liked it or not. Another example: remember that Pat Buchanan won some primaries when he ran in 1992 and 1996 as a Republican, and wound up with 0.4% of the vote when he ran 3d party.

I hate the GOP as much as anyone, but I also realize that the only way for a candidate with a good message to break through is within the two party system. I'll cringe when I do it, but I'll register GOP in this election just like I did in 1992/6.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-11   15:13:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In 2008 the 2 'candidates' presented by the Demos and the GOPs are going to be so similar, it would be very difficult to brainwash the masses again into believing that they are making a meaningful choice by voting for one of the 2.

Again, RP has ZERO chances of being nominated by the party of Bush, Giuliani and Podhoretz. This is the way it is and him raising one trillion dollars would not change it. However, as in independent (NOT THIRD PARTY) he might beat the monster and the robot (guess who's who :)) ).

By the way, if he DOES win the presidency, I expect him to be assassinated - a great pretext for imposing a full police state - or to get very sick very quickly and die, which would be good for Goldie's site because she will be able to allow one last RP article to be posted there.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   15:20:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

By the way, if he DOES win the presidency, I expect him to be assassinated - a great pretext for imposing a full police state - or to get very sick very quickly and die, which would be good for Goldie's site because she will be able to allow one last RP article to be posted there.

Vast, we are sitting on one now, and you expect the people here to ignore that fact, and move to marginalize the one candidate that speaks of civil liberties?

I'd loan you a sandwich but that won't help your picnic.

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   15:38:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd loan you a sandwich but that won't help your picnic.

Why do you think Colin Powell's wife did not want CP to run for Prez? And, why do you think Perot decided to drop his candidacy? I can't say that I have the answers but, it's quite interesting, isn't it?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   15:43:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why do you think Colin Powell's wife did not want CP to run for Prez? And, why do you think Perot decided to drop his candidacy? I can't say that I have the answers but, it's quite interesting, isn't it?

I see you changing the goalpost each time your argument is slammed. Why is that?

Because YOU, are lying about your support.

Why don't you tell us all the reasons to give up hope.

Don't you think RP knows all of which you allude? Don't you think we do? And yet you wish to perpetuate the fear to accept the status quo. Coward!~

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   15:49:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I see you changing the goalpost each time your argument is slammed. Why is that?

LOL :)) Maybe slammed in your mind.

We still need to understand how RP wins the GOP nomination. Is he going to carry... what? California? Florida? Pennsylvania? Ohio?

I don't think so. His only chance to win the presidency is by separating himself from that gang of crooks and murderers. Do you think that he should have joined the Nazis if that was convenient?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   16:16:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

To: Peppa

I see you changing the goalpost each time your argument is slammed. Why is that? LOL :)) Maybe slammed in your mind.

We still need to understand how RP wins the GOP nomination. Is he going to carry... what? California? Florida? Pennsylvania? Ohio?

I don't think so. His only chance to win the presidency is by separating himself from that gang of crooks and murderers. Do you think that he should have joined the Nazis if that was convenient?

Give me your address, I'll send you a box of Depends.

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   16:41:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

To: Peppa

I see you changing the goalpost each time your argument is slammed. Why is that? LOL :)) Maybe slammed in your mind.

We still need to understand how RP wins the GOP nomination. Is he going to carry... what? California? Florida? Pennsylvania? Ohio?

I don't think so. His only chance to win the presidency is by separating himself from that gang of crooks and murderers. Do you think that he should have joined the Nazis if that was convenient?

Give me your address, I'll send you a box of Depends.

Sorry babe,

But if this is what you call 'slamming' other people's 'arguments', then your debating skills must fit right at the Nintendo's Wee W'estling (minor leagues) level.

Or maybe you are one of those feeble-minded people who spend their meager savings on the 'Secret' book or DeeVeeDee, talking themselves into believing that all it takes it's to 'just believe' and it will all just happen?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   19:04:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sorry babe,

But if this is what you call 'slamming' other people's 'arguments', then your debating skills must fit right at the Nintendo's Wee W'estling (minor leagues) level.

Or maybe you are one of those feeble-minded people who spend their meager savings on the 'Secret' book or DeeVeeDee, talking themselves into believing that all it takes it's to 'just believe' and it will all just happen?

No my sweet, my skills are superior to your shilling,and that's why you must spin. No wrestling required on my part, only facts. Those you were unhappy to accept.

My meager savings, and how they are spent are none of your business, but you and your kind feel free assume what they are, and that is your greatest mistake. Now, you take yourself from an independent thinker to the shill you actually are.

Do I just believe?

Small is the mind that has been shackled by poison. But I'll not help you further.

Don't stretch your leash, you are allowed to bark only so much.

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   19:13:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Seriously, you don't really belong at this site. I believe I've been contributing my wisdom here for 2-3 years and, as far as I can recall, there were only 2 creeps who reacted with invectives to my calm, well-thought, thought-provoking, inquisitive arguments. Both of them unloaded their worthless verbiage on this very thread. Would you try to guess who they are? This is so unlike the 4um because this site tends to be the meeting place of intelligent, open-minded, civilized people who respect each other and each others' views.

Somehow, I don't believe that Mr. Paul appreciates or seeks the support of dog-like, irrational, confused individuals. I would be surprised if it turned out that what he wanted was large numbers of goose-stepping, empty headed pawns for him to manipulate. But, I guess, that is inevitable when we are dealing with large numbers.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   19:24:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Seriously, you don't really belong at this site.

Okay, take a vote.

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   19:26:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There's no need for vote-taking. You will either learn good manners or you will leave on your own as everyone else will be ignoring you. Myself, I am VERY tempted to make my very first entry on the 'bozo' list but... no, I must be strong.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   19:31:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

There's no need for vote-taking. You will either learn good manners or you will leave on your own as everyone else will be ignoring you. Myself, I am VERY tempted to make my very first entry on the 'bozo' list but... no, I must be strong.

You are the one trying to strong arm to your belief's.

You will either learn Freedom of Speech, or continue to be exposed as th shill you are.

Bozo is an option. But I never use it. I rather enjoy the entertainment.

I'm not threatened in the least.

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   19:34:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

'Learn freedom of speech' :)) Funny, funny, funny.

Anyways, exchanging views with other people and learning from them is something that one learns and one gets better at. Like I said, there is no viable scenario for RP to win the GOP nomination.

I recently exchange some views with someone who published an article at the LewRockwell site, stating that RP just MIGHT get nominated by the GOP. I believe that she was actually a math PhD. Her premise was that 80-100% of all RP's GOP supporters would actually vote in the primaries while everyone else's supporters would participate at a 2-5% rate. She did admit to me that her assumption was not very realistic. She wrote: "the wildcard is how motivated Paul supporters are to vote, which is where my analysis may fall apart. "

Someone else who contributes to that site, to Antiwar and others and who recently wrote an article predicting RP's eventual victory, wrote me the following: "I deliberately try to be optimistic and depict it as a final matchup view to try and drum some sense into these Republicans' heads about who should be their man." He then continued - and PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE HE IS TALKING ABOUT YOUR KIND HERE: "What is likely to happen, however, if he starts to be a threat, is that his supporters will be infiltrated by the statists with some violent people who will do something uncouth and the media will blame it on him, end of story."

Some foods for thoughts.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-11   19:51:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"What is likely to happen, however, if he starts to be a threat, is that his supporters will be infiltrated by the statists with some violent people who will do something uncouth and the media will blame it on him, end of story."

He is talking about you.

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   19:52:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Come on, lady and gentleman (I assume)...to your respective corners. The irresistible force has met the immovable object. This thread is starting to look like one of LP's, and the gracious hostesses of this forum, and many of 4um's posters, deserve better. You both make excellent contribution here...don't waste your time butting heads.

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-11-11   19:59:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

who...

Excellent proposal young man.

Why dont you do a little soft shoe song and dance so we can change the subject?

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-11   20:01:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why dont you do a little soft shoe song and dance so we can change the subject?

You just made my wife laugh her ass off...my singing and dancing abilities are the LAST THING that would have attracted her to me. OMG...I don't want to even think about trying to dance. Now...if G-d had designed women with boobs on their BACK; I would have learned how to slow dance in a New York minute. :-)

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-11-11   20:06:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Now...if G-d had designed women with boobs on their BACK; I would have learned how to slow dance in a New York minute. :-)

Zip...

Please dont encourage who, as I sort of like women the way they are.

hehehehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-11   20:10:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

well true .. I guess you cant improve on perfection ;)

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-11   20:11:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

well true .. I guess you cant improve on perfection ;)

Zip...

I have never Bozoed anyone but you are on the edge.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-11   20:14:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#323. To: Cynicom (#322)

You'd bozo little ol' me? moi?? :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-11 20:18:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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