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Title: Climate change by Jupiter
Source: Financial Post
URL Source: http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/ ... 8e-90d7-4f54-9ca7-1f56fadc7c2b
Published: Nov 10, 2007
Author: Lawrence Solomon
Post Date: 2007-11-11 12:27:57 by farmfriend
Ping List: *Agriculture-Environment*     Subscribe to *Agriculture-Environment*
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Climate change by Jupiter

Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post
Published: Saturday, November 10, 2007

The alignment of the planets, and especially that of Jupiter and Saturn, control the climate on Earth.

So explained Rhodes Fairbridge of Columbia University, a giant in science over much of the last century whose accomplishments are perhaps unsurpassed for their breadth, depth, and volume. This one man authored or co-authored 100 scientific books and more than 1,000 scientific papers, he edited the Benchmarks in Geology series (more than 90 volumes in print) and was general editor of the Encyclopaedias of the Earth Sciences. He edited eight major encyclopedias of specialized scientific papers in the atmospheric sciences and astrogeology; geomorphology; geochemistry and the earth sciences; geology, sedimentology, paleontology, oceanography and, not least, climatology.

Changes in sunspots and other solar activity, scientists have realized for more than two centuries, correlate closely with the climate of Earth, explaining the ice ages and periods of great warming. But what, Dr. Fairbridge wondered, causes these changes in our sun?

The answer, he discovered with the help of NASA and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, lies largely in the solar system's centre of gravity. At times, the sun is at the solar system's centre of gravity. Most often, this is not the case-- the orbit of the planets will align planets to one side or another of the sun. Jupiter, the planet with by far the largest mass, most influences the solar system's centre of gravity. When Uranus, Neptune and especially Saturn -- the next largest planet -- join Jupiter on one side of the solar system, the solar system's centre of gravity shifts well beyond the sun.

The sun's own orbit, he found, has eight characteristic patterns, all determined by Jupiter's position relative to Saturn, with the other planets playing much lesser roles. Some of these eight have orderly orbits, smooth and near-circular. During such orbits, solar activity is high and Earth heats up. Some of the eight orbits are chaotic, taking a loop-the-loop path. These orbits correspond to quiet times for the sun, and cool periods on Earth. Every 179 years or so, the sun embarks on a new cycle of orbits. One of the cooler periods in recent centuries was the Little Ice Age of the 17th century, when the Thames River in London froze over each winter. The next cool period, if the pattern holds, began in 1996, with the effects to be felt starting in 2010. Some predict three decades of severe cold.

Temperatures on Earth are but one consequence of these periodic and predictable celestial movements. Others, Dr. Fairbridge has shown, are seen everywhere on Earth: in the various and differing periodicities in rocks, glaciers, sand dunes and the circulation of the ocean; geomagnetic records; the records of the isotopes of carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen in tree rings, ice cores, air and water. They are the periodicities of climate change.

Dr. Fairbridge's best-known periodicity, which he developed in the 1950s, hypothesized that sea levels had been rising for the last 16,000 years, during which there were periodic oscillations of rise and fall. The Fairbridge curve describing this period -- so named in derision because it offended the conventional wisdom - is now widely accepted. It demonstrates that, even within the past 1,000 years, sea levels have several times changed by up to two metres, and suddenly -- each of these large changes occurred in fewer than 40 years.

Dr. Fairbridge's broader climate change claims -- that celestial changes control Earth's temperatures -- remain controversial, but less so than they were decades ago, when his was a relatively lone voice. Solar scientists with increasing regularity are publishing data establishing celestial origins to climate change on Earth. Dr. Fairbridge saw his Fairbridgecurve theories vindicated, but he won't his celestial claims. This most remarkable individual died a year ago this week, at age 92. - Lawrence Solomon is executive director of Energy Probe and the Urban Renaissance Institute. www.urban-renaissance.org

Rhodes Fairbridge, an early expert on climate change, was a professor of geology at Columbia. He received an undergraduate degree from Queen's University in Ontario and a master's degree from the University of Oxford. He was awarded a doctorate of science by the University of Western Australia in 1944 at the age of 30, bypassing the usual PhD prerequisite. During the Second World War, Dr. Fairbridge also served with the Royal Australian Air Force in U.S. General Douglas MacArthur's headquarters as deputy director of intelligence. Subscribe to *Agriculture-Environment*

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#1. To: farmfriend (#0)

The world is strange and wonderful. I bet Fairbridge was right. (And ancient astrologers weren't quite so stupid after all...)

Thanks for the post.

“Before Isandwhlana we treated all your wounded men in our hospital. But when you attacked our camp your brethren, our black patients, rose and helped to kill those who had been attending on them. Can any of you advance any reason why I should not kill you?’ One of the younger men, with an intelligent face, asked, “May I speak?’ “Yes.’ “There is a very good reason why you should not kill us. We kill you because it is the custom of the black men. But it isn’t the white man’s custom."

Tauzero  posted on  2007-11-13   15:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tauzero (#1)

Jupiter's mass is 1/1000 that of the Sun and Jupiter is pretty, pretty far away. I'd be surprised if Mr. Sun cares much about where Jupiter or Saturn might be at any given time.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-13   16:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tauzero, a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

Saw this reply on another forum. It's Wikipedia but my astronomer friend said the same thing.

The Jupiter Effect

Astronomers were aware that there would be a close alignment of the planets on March 10, 1982, when Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Pluto and Saturn would be on the same side of the Sun, within a 95 degree wide interval. In 1974, John Gribbin and Stephen Plagemann published The Jupiter Effect, a bestselling book that predicted that the alignment of the planets would create a number of catastrophes, including a great earthquake on the San Andreas Fault on March 10, 1982. The predicted catastrophes did not occur, as the gravitational effect of the other planets on the Earth's crust is minimal even at their closest approach. There had been an even closer alignment in the year 1128 without incident [1]. There was some influence by the planets, with high tide calculated at 0.04 millimeters higher than normal [2]. In April 1982, Gribbin and Plagemann published a lesser-selling book, The Jupiter Effect Revisited, theorizing that the effect had actually taken place in 1980, despite a lack of alignment, and had triggered the eruption of Mount St. Helens. In his 1999 book "The Little Book of Science," Dr. Gribbin said of his theory "...I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it."


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farmfriend  posted on  2007-11-13   16:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: farmfriend (#0)

Dude makes much more sense, to me, than does algore. Thank you for posting.

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Lod  posted on  2007-11-13   17:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#2) (Edited)

Is it the mass or the mag field?

How big of a force is needed to send a big, heavy spring-mass system into large oscillations?

(A: Any size force of the right frequency will do.)

“Before Isandwhlana we treated all your wounded men in our hospital. But when you attacked our camp your brethren, our black patients, rose and helped to kill those who had been attending on them. Can any of you advance any reason why I should not kill you?’ One of the younger men, with an intelligent face, asked, “May I speak?’ “Yes.’ “There is a very good reason why you should not kill us. We kill you because it is the custom of the black men. But it isn’t the white man’s custom."

Tauzero  posted on  2007-11-13   17:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#3)

IOW, no double-blind, prospective study possible.

In which case we are free to believe pretty much whatever we want to, provided it is consistent with observations.

“Before Isandwhlana we treated all your wounded men in our hospital. But when you attacked our camp your brethren, our black patients, rose and helped to kill those who had been attending on them. Can any of you advance any reason why I should not kill you?’ One of the younger men, with an intelligent face, asked, “May I speak?’ “Yes.’ “There is a very good reason why you should not kill us. We kill you because it is the custom of the black men. But it isn’t the white man’s custom."

Tauzero  posted on  2007-11-13   17:10:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tauzero (#5)

It may be so but none of the planets in our system are in harmonic synchronization, or whatever it is you call that.

As for the statement in this article that the center of gravity of the entire solar system shifts to a point outside Sun's surface is, you must agree, totally nuts. All the planets combined, plus their own moons and the asteroids add up to less than 1% of the Sun's mass.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-13   17:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#7)

As for the statement in this article that the center of gravity of the entire solar system shifts to a point outside Sun's surface is, you must agree, totally nuts. All the planets combined, plus their own moons and the asteroids add up to less than 1% of the Sun's mass.

The planets are a lot farther from the sun than the sun is. The sun, too, orbits the center of mass.

curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=461

The center of mass of our solar system very close to the Sun itself, but not exactly at the Sun's center (it is actually a little bit outside the radius of the Sun). However, since almost all of the mass within the solar system is contained in the Sun, [the Sun's] motion is only a slight wobble in comparison to the motion of the planets. Therefore, assuming that the Sun is stationary and the planets revolve around its center is a good enough approximation for most purposes.
See also Shaker Effects.

“Before Isandwhlana we treated all your wounded men in our hospital. But when you attacked our camp your brethren, our black patients, rose and helped to kill those who had been attending on them. Can any of you advance any reason why I should not kill you?’ One of the younger men, with an intelligent face, asked, “May I speak?’ “Yes.’ “There is a very good reason why you should not kill us. We kill you because it is the custom of the black men. But it isn’t the white man’s custom."

Tauzero  posted on  2007-11-13   17:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tauzero (#8)

I was wrong about the center of gravity. Didn't consider the great distances.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-11-13   19:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)

Jupiter's orbital period is not too far from the mean sunspot cycle length.

The sun's orbit is pretty wacky

Mackey, Richard, "Rhodes Fairbridge and the idea that the solar system regulates the Earth’s climate", Journal of Coastal Research SI 50 (Proceedings of the 9th International Coastal Symposium): 955 - 968, ISSN 0749.0208

Solar Inertial Motion

...The sun orbits the barycentre inside a circular area which itself is just over two solar diameters in diameter. This might be negligible for the solar system but is highly significant in relation to the size and nature of the sun. Amongst other things, the sun may be traveling through its own electromagnetic fields during various stages of its journey. Unlike planetary orbits around the barycentre, the sun's orbit around the barycentre differs greatly from orbit to orbit. The general form of the sun's orbit is an epitrochoid, a big circle continuous with a little ring nestling asymmetrically inside it. At one phase, the orbit is nearly circular, almost two solar diameters in diameter. At another phase, the Sun is impelled on a backward, or retrograde, journey in which it undergoes a tight loop-the-loop, crossing over its own path in a loop that is less than one solar radius. The epitchoid's asymmetric ring arises from the sun undergoing the retrograde loop-the-loop. No alignment of the planets in relation to the sun repeats itself exactly, because the solar system is chaotic, containing intrinsic randomness. As a result, no two epitchoid-shaped solar orbits are the same. Nevertheless they can be classified into eight distinctive patterns, each of about 179 years' duration, which is also the time taken for the planets to occupy approximately the same positions again relative to each other and the sun. In this time the sun completes about nine orbits, or one planetary cycle. Fig 1 depicts inertial solar motion.

“Before Isandwhlana we treated all your wounded men in our hospital. But when you attacked our camp your brethren, our black patients, rose and helped to kill those who had been attending on them. Can any of you advance any reason why I should not kill you?’ One of the younger men, with an intelligent face, asked, “May I speak?’ “Yes.’ “There is a very good reason why you should not kill us. We kill you because it is the custom of the black men. But it isn’t the white man’s custom."

Tauzero  posted on  2007-11-13   22:35:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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