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Title: Why the Ron Paul Campaign is Dangerous
Source: American Daily
URL Source: http://www.americandaily.com/article/20911
Published: Nov 11, 2007
Author: JB Williams
Post Date: 2007-11-11 13:50:17 by longnose gar
Keywords: paultards, ronulans, paulestinians
Views: 1077
Comments: 65

I am fast becoming the most unpopular man in America, among Ron Paul supporters that is. Truth is seldom popular among those at odds with that truth.

Paul supporters have worked diligently to convince voters that their candidate is the “real deal” constitutionalist conservative in the ’08 presidential race and that he has a real chance of winning. But the facts simply don’t support either of these claims and pointing this reality out seems to drive Paul supporters into a fit of unbridled rage.

The fact is, though Ron Paul himself is no threat to anyone or anything, his campaign is on a track that is very dangerous for America and the conservative movement in particular. Although he is highly unlikely to win anything, his campaign is increasingly likely to cause real trouble for the legitimate Republican nomination process.

Ron Paul’s fund raising

Recent headlines have been focused on the record fund raising day in the Paul campaign. It was a very effective campaign stunt. Although he still trails most other candidates in overall fund raising by a pretty wide margin, his campaign grabbed headlines by setting up an internet campaign stunt designed to raise as much as possible in a single day.

It worked - they got the desired headlines - but what does it really mean? In the end, it won’t change the outcome of the election process.

But the recent surge in campaign contributions did raise a more important question.

Where’s all that money coming from?

At first, I assumed, and had even written, that Ron Paul’s financial support was coming from the Libertarian wing of the Republican Party. Then I was corrected by former Ron Paul aide and founder of the Libertarian Republican Caucus, Eric Dondero, who also founded MainstreamLibertarian.com and hosts blogtalk radio show Libertarian Politics Live.

In an interview with Dondero, he emphatically complained; “Please refrain in the future from using the label "Libertarian Republican" in describing Ron Paul. Call him what he is: Some sort of populist leftwinger.”

Dondero continued, “Since 9/11 Paul has become a complete nutcase conspiratorialist quasi-Anti-Semitic leftwing American-hating nutball.”

These were strong words from a former aide to Mr. Paul (from 1997 – 2003) and words worthy of investigation in my mind. So I decided to investigate, which in politics always means, follow the money.

Where is all that money coming from?

Upon investigation, it appears that Mr. Dondero is exactly right. Much of Ron Paul’s money is not coming from mainstream Libertarians or Republicans.

Although he is running as a Republican, he actually has very little support from rank and file Republicans, as every national Republican poll confirms. But it turns out that he has very little support from mainstream Libertarians either. As Dondero pointed out, “Ron Paul is only attracting support from the leftwing side of the libertarian spectrum, virtually none of whom are Republicans.”

According to official campaign fund raising filings posted at www.opensecrets.org, Ron Paul’s top contributor is well known internet giant Google. Google, with Al Gore on the board of directors, has a long history of progressive political activism, both in the way they censor search results to bury conservative slanted stories, and in their campaign contribution habits, which is solidly Democrat, with the exception of Ron Paul.

Like Howard Dean before him, Ron Paul first grabbed headlines with his very hi-tech internet campaign, which is now easily explained by the fact that his largest constituency is in the computer tech community. It also explains how Paul supporters have perfected the art of “spamming” or “jamming” online polls, creating a false impression of bigger support while invalidating poll after poll. Other tech giants like Microsoft and Verizon top his donors list as well.

Among Ron Paul’s top donor zip codes are of course parts of Texas, but also heavily liberal districts in Chicago (60614), San Francisco (94117), more than 80% of which supports Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer, and Los Angeles – Long Beach, which is his second largest donor area after Dallas.

What we have here is a candidate trying to win the Republican nomination by raising money from liberals across the political aisle.

This is why his fund-raising is not translating to improved poll positions

His donors are not Republicans. So no matter how much money he raises, it is not translating into Republican support in the polls. He remains at or below 5% support in every national Republican poll, no matter how much money he raises.

USA Today reports, “The Iowa Republican Party put out an advisory Tuesday setting standards for participation in a Dec. 4 debate. Sponsors said participants need to average 5% support among Republicans in recent national or Iowa polls -- and so far, Texas Rep. Ron Paul is one of the candidates not making the cut.”

In Pollster.com's latest averaging of national poll results of Republicans, Paul's support comes in at 2.7%. The website calculates Paul's support among Republicans in Iowa, based on polls there, to be 3.8%.

Yet his supporters still claim he is much more popular than the national polls indicate and that he will be the come from behind shocker at the Republican convention. How?

Here’s where the Ron Paul campaign becomes dangerous

Because Paul supporters know that support coming from non-Republicans is not reflected in the Republican polls, they have started a campaign to promote party-jumping so that their anti-war supporter’s from the left can vote in the Republican primary.

Twenty four states have “open” primaries, which means, one need not be Republican to vote in those Republican primaries. Ron Paul supporters are promoting both strategies – one in which Democrats, Independents, and members of other third parties can vote for him in “open” primaries where possible, and switch parties to vote for him where the primaries are “closed.”

The mere notion that a Republican presidential candidate should be nominated by this strategy is insane and very dangerous to the entire election process. At a minimum, it is a demonstration of just what kind of people are behind the Ron Paul campaign, obviously, not constitutionally conscious people. I do not know if the Paul campaign itself is behind this effort. But I am sure that the campaign is aware of this effort, as well as the fact that much of their funding is coming from people other than Republicans.

The Daily Paul is openly promoting Change Party Affiliation to Republican to Participate in Primaries. “As you may realize, there are many people from across the spectrum planning to support Ron Paul: Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Green Party members, disenfranchised Democrats, and of course the disenfranchised Republicans. Many of these people may not realize that they NEED to change party affiliations to Republican to vote in the GOP Primary in many States.” (A direct quote from the site)

So, how Republican is Republican candidate Ron Paul?

If he’s funded largely by anti-war leftists, from Democrat stronghold districts and counting on Democrats, Libertarians and members of the Green Party to win the Republican nomination, not very…

The only Republicans we find in his campaign are those myopic small government conservatives angry with Bush for his Democrat-like spending habits. Those so angry with Bush, that they are willing to overlook all of this just to vote for a candidate who promises less spending. Of course, we can’t entirely overlook the handful of moderate Republicans who oppose the war in Iraq either, few as they are.

Why is the Ron Paul campaign dangerous?

Despite his very real popularity across the political aisle, he is not likely to get enough people to switch parties in order to win the RNC nomination. But he is doing a great job of validating the perspective of all the negative propaganda uttered by leftists against Bush, Republicans, the War on Terror and national security. That’s not good.

He is also doing a great job of helping the left undermine the war on terror and that’s why he’s so popular among anti-war leftists, including in the press. This is bad.

But even worse, he threatens the integrity of the Republican nomination process itself by relying upon non-Republicans to win the Republican nomination.

Last, at a time in American history when the Republican Party must be more united and engaged than ever before, when every available conservative vote is needed in next years general election, Paul and his supporters are busy carving up the party for their own anti-Republican agenda.

I hate wasting this much press time on Ron Paul. But the Paul campaign is becoming a real threat to the Republican primary process and if allowed to continue, he will take votes away from the most conservative Republican candidates in the party, not the most liberal. This is bad for the party and the country.

That’s why his campaign has become dangerous.

I actually agree with many of Ron Paul’s positions, outside of his suicidal national security perspective of course. But I can not agree with the campaign tactics of using leftist money and votes to hijack the Republican nomination and I’m shocked that any Republican would.

There’s really no need to write another word about Ron Paul. If you can know all of these facts, follow the money and the links provided for their campaign tactics and still support him, you’re no Republican, much less a conservative or constitutionalist.

Real Republicans need to be aware and unite to block this effort to hijack the party nomination.

National elections are decided by a couple points one way or another today. Republicans can’t afford to let any candidate play games with their nomination process. Republicans need a candidate that will unite and motivate conservative voters, not one that divides and undermines that process.

That’s it! These are the facts. You don’t have to like them, you just need to know them.

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#25. To: Peppa (#21)

Gov't. is not protecting jack except itself and it's growth.

Not healthcare. Not the dollar. Not jobs. Not crime. Not the border. Not the veterans. Not the law. Not private property. Not freedom of speech.

Exactly. The government is using the phony "terrorist threat" to consolidate power and rob us blind, while cutting back on the few legitimate services that they should be providing in exchange for tax dollars. And you have people like J.B. Williams and Mudfish on this thread cheering them on.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-11   14:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)

And you have people like J.B. Williams and Mudfish on this thread cheering them on.

We all will answer some day. That will be when the funny part stops.

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   14:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Peppa (#21)

Gov't. is not protecting jack except itself and it's growth.

Not healthcare. Not the dollar. Not jobs. Not crime. Not the border. Not the veterans. Not the law. Not private property. Not freedom of speech.

Whatever they say they want for Americans, is a window to what they seek to destroy for all.

Bump it.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-11   14:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lodwick (#27)

Bump it.

Thanks Mr. L. ! ~~~~~~~~~ <--- wavy things

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   14:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#23)

I mostly meant they expect Government to save them from whatever, not realizing that Government more than likely created whatever monster they're wanting slain. The disagreement among Republic and Democrats isn't about whether government should control our lives, only which faction gets to be in charge.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-11   14:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: longnose gar (#0) (Edited)

Psst. What to know a little secret, buddy boy? The only candidate who makes any sense is Paul. As for all the rest of them, there is not a dime's worth of difference between them. It doesn't matter if Hilary wins, or Obama, or Guiliani -- they're all the same.

We don't have two political parties. We have two wings of the same party, and no matter who wins -- except for Paul -- the war is not going to stop, or taxes, or our limping economy. Or anything else.

Always glad to enlighten the ignorant.

By the way, if you're a Republican, are you a pedophile? These days, it seems to go with the territory.

Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-11-11   14:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: longnose gar (#0)

At a minimum, it is a demonstration of just what kind of people are behind the Ron Paul campaign, obviously, not constitutionally conscious people.

I sure as hell wouldn't call anyone that is a supporter of this administration and it's policies "constitutionally conscious".

Look at the track record - warrantless spying, erasure of Habeas Corpus, the Military Commissions Act, the Patriot Act, - these are NOT the actions of an administration concerned with the Constitution.

I'll tell you how Ron Paul's supporters ARE going to be "dangerous" though. Traitors who are opposed to the fundamentals this country were founded upon (like you and the author of this bullshit hit piece) will be the likes on the top of the list of a group which Ron Paul supports - Gun Owners of America.

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-11   14:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: YertleTurtle (#30)

It doesn't matter if Hilary wins, or Obama, or Guiliana -- they're all the same.

All three have promised to appoint Oprah Winfrey as Secretary of Education. And how about Surgeon General Dr Phil...I kind of like the sound of that.

I'm rooting for Huckleberry, I think Quickdraw McGraw will make an excellent Attorney General.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-11   14:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Dakmar (#32)

What about Yogi and Boo boo?

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   14:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: innieway (#31)

GOA bump

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-11   14:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: longnose gar (#0)

Im a Republican and support Paul.. many of his supporters arent Republicans that is true.. but they've actually changed parties or are young voters who are now registering..

Undermining the war on terror? Uh whoever wrote this article is buying into the bullshit..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-11   14:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Peppa (#33)

Bears can't be in government.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-11   14:57:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Dakmar (#36)

How about:

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-11   14:58:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Zipporah (#35)

whoever wrote this article is buying into the bullshit..

Buying into? You honestly don't think this crap is churned out by AEI?

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-11   14:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robin (#37)

I can't see Huckleberry appointing non Hanna-Babara characters to ANY position.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-11   15:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Dakmar (#36)

Bears can't be in government.

Oh.

Back to the drawing board professor.

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   15:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Dakmar (#39)

Tom and Jerry?

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-11   15:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Dakmar (#38)

Buying into? You honestly don't think this crap is churned out by AEI?

I'll give the benefit of the doubt. It might be PNAC material.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-11   15:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Dakmar (#32)

I think Quickdraw McGraw will make an excellent Attorney General.

I always liked El Kabong myself.

Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-11-11   15:03:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Sam Houston (#6)

But if it does, I think it will have taken some sort of divine intervention. This country's political system is Satanic right now.

i'll believe, i'll believe if that happens. ;)

christine  posted on  2007-11-11   15:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Dakmar (#38)

Buying into? You honestly don't think this crap is churned out by AEI?

?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-11   15:05:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: YertleTurtle (#43)

I always liked El Kabong myself.

That's my al Qaeda name.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-11   15:07:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: longnose gar (#0)

The fact is, though Ron Paul himself is no threat to anyone or anything, his campaign is on a track that is very dangerous for America and the conservative movement in particular.

What Is this asshole talking about? You know he is a dimwit when he calls what we have now, conservative.

If this what the majority reads, pieces of shit like this person, maybe it is too late for us and Dr. Paul. I don't know whether to slit my wrists, shoot myself, or gas myself but any one of them be a better option than having to read this rubbish. Reminds me of the stupid whores who posted to freak republic that they were going to vote for the chimp because he was such a hunk.

Scarry huh???????

LACUMO  posted on  2007-11-11   15:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: LACUMO (#47) (Edited)

Mudfish is unhappy because Ron Paul isn't a real Republican.

A "real Republican," like the moronic George W. Bush, who wouldn't know what to say unless it's written on a cue card by his handlers.

A "real Republican," like the crooked Dick Cheney, who gave Halliburton the war in Iraq so they could get rich on building contracts.

A "real Republican," like the Zionist Norman Podhoretz, whose foreign policy slogan is "Israel First".

A "real Republican," like the holy-rolling Armageddonites John Hagee and Pat Robertson.

A "real Republican," like Giuliani, who conned his followers into giving him the titles "America's Mayor" and "Hero of 9/11" just for posing for photos next to firemen.

A "real Republican," like the pederast Mark Foley and the toilet tryst man Larry Craig.

No wonder Ron Paul doesn't fit Mudfish's bill.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-11   15:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#48)

No wonder Ron Paul doesn't fit Mudfish's bill.

Great analysis!!

LACUMO  posted on  2007-11-11   15:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Dakmar (#32)

I'm rooting for Huckleberry, I think Quickdraw McGraw will make an excellent Attorney General.

WTF, are you gay? It's Jessica Rabbit all the way, with Gerald McBoing-Boing as VP.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.

Esso  posted on  2007-11-11   15:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#0)

That’s why his campaign has become dangerous.

JB Williams

To: Ms JB Williams.

To me, you're not a real man, nor will you ever be. You talk about how Ron Paul is dangerous to America. Well, what about the other candidates?

I'd like to think that I as an American citizen have inalienable rights. The other candidates want to take those rights away, in the name of "Security".

The current band of clowns on both sides of the aisle over the last 7 years, have take our country from having some prosperity, to bringing the economy to a grinding halt. They've also managed to make a lot of enemies, enemies we will likely have to kill, in an unending war on "Terror". We have a 9 trillion dollar deficit thanks to a government that has been completely devoid of any common sense. We have illegal immigration running rampant, and yet for the sake of security, legislation has been passed requiring CITIZENS to get new forms of ID that compromise not only our privacy, but our ability to freely travel unmonitored and unhindered.

We have seen in the last 6 years, a vaulting of gas prices that border on the outright criminal. Prices have skyrocketed 300 percent, and when they talk of the reasons why, we're never told the truth. We're just being lied to, and forced to pay more and more not only at the pump, but on everything we buy, and everything we need.

Where was Mitt Romney when we needed a leader to stand up to Bush to say No War In Iraq? Well, guess where he was? He was for it. How about Giuliani? For it. McCain, For it. The list of traitors goes on, on the democrat side of things.

The only concern you have JB, is whether or not you get paid by your pro-mainstream pubbie buddies for your outright slanderous article about Ron Paul, and those who support him. I want my country back, and I want it safe. I do not want another 8 years of turmoil and war, and I certainly don't want to have any more of my God Given, Constitutionally Guaranteed RIGHTS ABRIDGED!!!!

You in my estimation are a fucking joke of a journalist who doesn't think for themselves in the least. You write what you're told to, and be damned if anything smacking of truth gets into anything you pen.

The worst part about my country as of late, is that there is no shortage of lying shitbags in the media who give the name journalist a bad name.

You want a Republican Candidate that will unite and motivate conservative voters? What the fuck has Ron Paul been doing? HE HAS BEEN DOING EXACTLY THAT, and because HE is the one doing it, and not the other paid for traitors you call candidates, you're upset. You write this idiotic article spewing out how people who support Ron Paul are anti-semitic, hateful, paranoid, and worse. Well, let me tell you Ms. Williams, you obviously haven't been around much have you?

Who do you think has destroyed MANY of our freedoms in the last 6 years? So called conservative Republicans. Take a hard look at what we've lost in the way of rights, and you can see the very hand of so called Conservative Republicans at work. We've lost Habeus Corpus, and Posse Commitatus. We've been given Patriot Acts I and II. We've been given the military commissions act. How about the newest and latest, HR 1955? How about the little known bit of legislation stripping veterans of their rights to bear arms if they've had any counseling? How about all the new legislation on the books coming from the Defense Department Budget stating our own troops can be used on Domestic Soil?

Let me tell you Ms. Williams, I don't give a fuck about what people like you want, because what you want, isn't America. What you want is a control freak's paradise where everyone gets a barcode on their heads and hands, and where nobody is free do to a goddamned thing without the government's tacit approval.

Go fuck yourself BJ Williams, and the politician you blew to get your article published.

Sincerely,

A Real Conservative Who Supports Ron Paul

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-11-11   16:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: longnose gar (#0)

Dondero continued, “Since 9/11 Paul has become a complete nutcase conspiratorialist quasi-Anti-Semitic leftwing American-hating nutball.”

Dondero is a fraud. His idea of being "right wing" is being for war, all war, all the time. He is a DC statist and a complete shill.

We had a revealing run in with this Dondero over at my blog. This really has to be read to be believed.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-11   16:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#51)

You put in language they can understand.

Sometimes it takes that.

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   16:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: longnose gar (#1)

Funny, I thought the big argument for Rudy was that he made the Republicans competitive in areas they had not been competitive. Why is it so frightening then for another Republican candidate to draw well from big cities?

Moreover, the underlying assumption is that contributions from big cities can only come from liberals. That is hardly a factual analysis.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2007-11-11   16:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: longnose gar (#0)

I actually agree with many of Ron Paul’s positions, outside of his suicidal national security perspective of course.

No, you don't. You are a liar. Anyone who believes that "Islam" is a "national security threat" to the United States that justifies more money being spent than during the Cold War- is quite simply one of two things- a complete fucking retard who sholdn't be allowed to spread his stupid DNA to another generation or . . . a government shill and a DC parasite or wannabe DC MIC parasite.

There is always a "Threat" isn't there? Always some absurd phony baloney "threat" to justify the Cold War MIC isnt' there? Funny- the rest of the world aint' scared. Brazil and China ain't peeing in the pants and giving a trillion dollars a year to their warfare state to fight some idiotic war against a noun.

Sorry- bzzzt- you sir are just another Beltway fraud and a liar. You don't support anything Ron Paul stands for. You are a shill for oligarchy and coiffed hairdo stooge candidates of DC's smokey back rooms.

Get lost A-hole.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-11   16:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#48)

love your laundry list there. lol.

christine  posted on  2007-11-11   16:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#51)

Sweet.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-11-11   16:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: YertleTurtle (#30)

By the way, if you're a Republican, are you a pedophile? These days, it seems to go with the territory.

Now that's just offensive and biased...you left out closeted homosexuals, government-paid shills, hypocrites, and assorted garden-variety perverts.

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orangedog  posted on  2007-11-11   17:27:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Peppa (#33)

What about Yogi and Boo boo?

Yogi gets to be head of the national park system. Suck on that, Mr. Ranger!

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2007-11-11   17:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: orangedog (#59)

Yogi gets to be head of the national park system. Suck on that, Mr. Ranger!

;) Too funny. Not just Jellystone Park, but everything! LOL !

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Peppa  posted on  2007-11-11   17:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#51)

You nailed it, on target, dead center!

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2007-11-11   17:43:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: longnose gar (#0)

Goldi sez you got banned on LP. She gonna let you back on with a new name tomorrow?


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can of balls  posted on  2007-11-11   21:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: longnose gar (#0)

Oh, cry me a river.

For years and years and years independents and 3rd party candidates have been on the short end of dysfunctional, 2 party only system, and now that Ron Paul is using the system as it's always been used against us, you sit there and whine that it's dangerous and abuse of your party.

Give me a freaking break. Ron is playing the game by the exact same rules that you guys have always defended. If you think your party is being invaded, then that's just fine, because that's how the rules -- your own rules -- are played.

If you are interested is instituting election reforms where people are truely reperesented and where Ron Paul's won't be taking over your party, then stop your whining and crying over Ron and start opening up the playing field for alternative parties.

Good grief this whining is just so....... mainstream American. With this kind of attitude, no wonder you think America has a right to trash the rest of the world. You and all the other deluded, warmongering Republicans that have no respect for non-American human life .

My news to you: Ron Paul may not be elected president, but regardless of who is, America as you always dreamed as a world dominance is going away. America is going down economically, and because of that militarily as well. You can wake up and smell the music sooner and make things better for the country by recognising the benefits of a Ron Paul presidency, or you can watch us go down in a blaze of glory under someone less. You're choice.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2007-11-12   13:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: longnose gar (#0)

"his campaign grabbed headlines by setting up an internet campaign stunt designed to raise as much as possible in a single day. "

That’s it! These are the facts. You don’t have to like them, you just need to know them.

Your article starts off with a false statement, followed by lots of huffing and puffing, then ends with "these are the facts".

Since it opened with a lie, I wouldn't put much credence in any of it.

It wasn't the Ron Paul campaign that setup the November 5th money bomb, it was setup by Ron Paul supporters that were not affiliated with his campaign.


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FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-12   13:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Burkeman1 (#52) (Edited)

It's easy to see why Geeky Libertarians have less of a problem with Islamo-Fascism. Cause they never get any sex, and are hopelessly girlfriend-less.

My wife Shandra is smokin' Hot. I want to protect her from rampaging Muslims wanting to cloak her in an ugly Black Burqa.

Believe me, some of my closest Paleo-libertarian friends I've had over the years, are some of the Geekiest, non-pussy getting mother fuckers you'd ever meet. And I say that lovingly. There's even one guy who has a very prominent position with someone very, very well-known in the Paleo-libertarian movement who is the ultimate ugly-ass fat nerd. But he's a loveable nerd.

You can't be pro-sex and pro-Islamo-Fascist at the same time Morerice. Unless you like it under the burqa.

As an Italian-American I take the Tony Soprano line:

This must have been some ham-fisted attempt at satire. Even by GOP standards, I find it hard to believe that anyone can be so ridiculously stupid.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-12   18:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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