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Title: Why the Ron Paul Campaign is Dangerous
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American Daily
URL Source: http://www.americandaily.com/article/20911
Published: Nov 11, 2007
Author: JB Williams
Post Date: 2007-11-11 13:50:17 by longnose gar
Keywords: paultards, ronulans, paulestinians
Views: 1086
Comments: 65
I am fast becoming the most unpopular man in America, among Ron Paul supporters that is. Truth is seldom popular among those at odds with that truth. Paul supporters have worked diligently to convince voters that their candidate is the “real deal” constitutionalist conservative in the ’08 presidential race and that he has a real chance of winning. But the facts simply don’t support either of these claims and pointing this reality out seems to drive Paul supporters into a fit of unbridled rage. The fact is, though Ron Paul himself is no threat to anyone or anything, his campaign is on a track that is very dangerous for America and the conservative movement in particular. Although he is highly unlikely to win anything, his campaign is increasingly likely to cause real trouble for the legitimate Republican nomination process. Ron Paul’s fund raising Recent headlines have been focused on the record fund raising day in the Paul campaign. It was a very effective campaign stunt. Although he still trails most other candidates in overall fund raising by a pretty wide margin, his campaign grabbed headlines by setting up an internet campaign stunt designed to raise as much as possible in a single day. It worked - they got the desired headlines - but what does it really mean? In the end, it won’t change the outcome of the election process. But the recent surge in campaign contributions did raise a more important question. Where’s all that money coming from? At first, I assumed, and had even written, that Ron Paul’s financial support was coming from the Libertarian wing of the Republican Party. Then I was corrected by former Ron Paul aide and founder of the Libertarian Republican Caucus, Eric Dondero, who also founded MainstreamLibertarian.com and hosts blogtalk radio show Libertarian Politics Live. In an interview with Dondero, he emphatically complained; “Please refrain in the future from using the label "Libertarian Republican" in describing Ron Paul. Call him what he is: Some sort of populist leftwinger.” Dondero continued, “Since 9/11 Paul has become a complete nutcase conspiratorialist quasi-Anti-Semitic leftwing American-hating nutball.” These were strong words from a former aide to Mr. Paul (from 1997 – 2003) and words worthy of investigation in my mind. So I decided to investigate, which in politics always means, follow the money. Where is all that money coming from? Upon investigation, it appears that Mr. Dondero is exactly right. Much of Ron Paul’s money is not coming from mainstream Libertarians or Republicans. Although he is running as a Republican, he actually has very little support from rank and file Republicans, as every national Republican poll confirms. But it turns out that he has very little support from mainstream Libertarians either. As Dondero pointed out, “Ron Paul is only attracting support from the leftwing side of the libertarian spectrum, virtually none of whom are Republicans.” According to official campaign fund raising filings posted at www.opensecrets.org, Ron Paul’s top contributor is well known internet giant Google. Google, with Al Gore on the board of directors, has a long history of progressive political activism, both in the way they censor search results to bury conservative slanted stories, and in their campaign contribution habits, which is solidly Democrat, with the exception of Ron Paul. Like Howard Dean before him, Ron Paul first grabbed headlines with his very hi-tech internet campaign, which is now easily explained by the fact that his largest constituency is in the computer tech community. It also explains how Paul supporters have perfected the art of “spamming” or “jamming” online polls, creating a false impression of bigger support while invalidating poll after poll. Other tech giants like Microsoft and Verizon top his donors list as well. Among Ron Paul’s top donor zip codes are of course parts of Texas, but also heavily liberal districts in Chicago (60614), San Francisco (94117), more than 80% of which supports Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer, and Los Angeles – Long Beach, which is his second largest donor area after Dallas. What we have here is a candidate trying to win the Republican nomination by raising money from liberals across the political aisle. This is why his fund-raising is not translating to improved poll positions His donors are not Republicans. So no matter how much money he raises, it is not translating into Republican support in the polls. He remains at or below 5% support in every national Republican poll, no matter how much money he raises. USA Today reports, “The Iowa Republican Party put out an advisory Tuesday setting standards for participation in a Dec. 4 debate. Sponsors said participants need to average 5% support among Republicans in recent national or Iowa polls -- and so far, Texas Rep. Ron Paul is one of the candidates not making the cut.” In Pollster.com's latest averaging of national poll results of Republicans, Paul's support comes in at 2.7%. The website calculates Paul's support among Republicans in Iowa, based on polls there, to be 3.8%. Yet his supporters still claim he is much more popular than the national polls indicate and that he will be the come from behind shocker at the Republican convention. How? Here’s where the Ron Paul campaign becomes dangerous Because Paul supporters know that support coming from non-Republicans is not reflected in the Republican polls, they have started a campaign to promote party-jumping so that their anti-war supporter’s from the left can vote in the Republican primary. Twenty four states have “open” primaries, which means, one need not be Republican to vote in those Republican primaries. Ron Paul supporters are promoting both strategies – one in which Democrats, Independents, and members of other third parties can vote for him in “open” primaries where possible, and switch parties to vote for him where the primaries are “closed.” The mere notion that a Republican presidential candidate should be nominated by this strategy is insane and very dangerous to the entire election process. At a minimum, it is a demonstration of just what kind of people are behind the Ron Paul campaign, obviously, not constitutionally conscious people. I do not know if the Paul campaign itself is behind this effort. But I am sure that the campaign is aware of this effort, as well as the fact that much of their funding is coming from people other than Republicans. The Daily Paul is openly promoting Change Party Affiliation to Republican to Participate in Primaries. “As you may realize, there are many people from across the spectrum planning to support Ron Paul: Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Green Party members, disenfranchised Democrats, and of course the disenfranchised Republicans. Many of these people may not realize that they NEED to change party affiliations to Republican to vote in the GOP Primary in many States.” (A direct quote from the site) So, how Republican is Republican candidate Ron Paul? If he’s funded largely by anti-war leftists, from Democrat stronghold districts and counting on Democrats, Libertarians and members of the Green Party to win the Republican nomination, not very… The only Republicans we find in his campaign are those myopic small government conservatives angry with Bush for his Democrat-like spending habits. Those so angry with Bush, that they are willing to overlook all of this just to vote for a candidate who promises less spending. Of course, we can’t entirely overlook the handful of moderate Republicans who oppose the war in Iraq either, few as they are. Why is the Ron Paul campaign dangerous? Despite his very real popularity across the political aisle, he is not likely to get enough people to switch parties in order to win the RNC nomination. But he is doing a great job of validating the perspective of all the negative propaganda uttered by leftists against Bush, Republicans, the War on Terror and national security. That’s not good. He is also doing a great job of helping the left undermine the war on terror and that’s why he’s so popular among anti-war leftists, including in the press. This is bad. But even worse, he threatens the integrity of the Republican nomination process itself by relying upon non-Republicans to win the Republican nomination. Last, at a time in American history when the Republican Party must be more united and engaged than ever before, when every available conservative vote is needed in next years general election, Paul and his supporters are busy carving up the party for their own anti-Republican agenda. I hate wasting this much press time on Ron Paul. But the Paul campaign is becoming a real threat to the Republican primary process and if allowed to continue, he will take votes away from the most conservative Republican candidates in the party, not the most liberal. This is bad for the party and the country. That’s why his campaign has become dangerous. I actually agree with many of Ron Paul’s positions, outside of his suicidal national security perspective of course. But I can not agree with the campaign tactics of using leftist money and votes to hijack the Republican nomination and I’m shocked that any Republican would. There’s really no need to write another word about Ron Paul. If you can know all of these facts, follow the money and the links provided for their campaign tactics and still support him, you’re no Republican, much less a conservative or constitutionalist. Real Republicans need to be aware and unite to block this effort to hijack the party nomination. National elections are decided by a couple points one way or another today. Republicans can’t afford to let any candidate play games with their nomination process. Republicans need a candidate that will unite and motivate conservative voters, not one that divides and undermines that process. That’s it! These are the facts. You don’t have to like them, you just need to know them.
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#1. To: All (#0)
What we have here is a candidate trying to win the Republican nomination by raising money from liberals across the political aisle.
And who are the "Real Republicans" according to you and your "facts"?
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
balls, corn, sardine, that you again?
that same old trite argument?
The more of these hit pieces I see, the more convinced I am that The System is what sees Paul as a threat, and the more I *LIKE* that idea. The hit pieces have firmly convinced me to vote for Dr. Paul. Keep posting, see how many more converts you make. The problem is The System and The People are tired of The System and desire REAL CHANGE. Put that in your pipe and realize the REAL TRUTH of things.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
There is no litmus test in my state for party affiliation. I can show up at the party primary in March, vote for Paul and then have my voter registration card stamped "Republican." All this means is I cannot cross over in any runoff and vote in the other primary three weeks later. In the fall I can vote for anyone I damn well please. Come next election, I can vote in the other primary and be stamped "Democratic." Furthermore, political parties are not in the Constitution. It will take a real miracle, not "real Republicans" (whatever the hell that is--it appears to the writer to mean one who is for perpetual war, which is their ONLY issue), to elect Paul. I hold out the hope, however slight, that this will happen. But if it does, I think it will have taken some sort of divine intervention. This country's political system is Satanic right now. In fact, government itself worldwide is in the control of the "prince of the power of the air" to put it in fundamentalist lingo. That's why I always agree with the candidate who wants to cut it. As Washington said, "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Is that like Paulaholics Anonymous? Hello, my name is Robin. (Hi Robin). I admit that I am powerless over my addiction to Ron Paul
They no longer need LP. You're their next target.
It will take a real miracle, not "real Republicans" (whatever the hell that is--it appears to the writer to mean one who is for perpetual war, which is their ONLY issue), to elect Paul. I hold out the hope, however slight, that this will happen. But if it does, I think it will have taken some sort of divine intervention. This country's political system is Satanic right now. In fact, government itself worldwide is in the control of the "prince of the power of the air" to put it in fundamentalist lingo. That's why I always agree with the candidate who wants to cut it. As Washington said, "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." Bravo! Well said.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
You did not answer my question.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
Different things to different people, but it's safe to say you can rule out anyone who is supported by such groups as al Qaeda and the Berkleyites.
He's probably running it through Abu Ghraib management first.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
JB is more than a few sandwiches shy of a picnic. It now looks like the campaign will have 8M in the bank by day's end.
LOL. The Republican party is in the dumpster right now. People are fed up with them and want a new direction. The Democrats have been registering far more people than the Republicans in the past few years. Only the Paul campaign is attracting new voters into the Republican Party. Mark my words: The ONLY chance the Republican Party has of winning the 2008 presidential election is by flushing the neocons.
The best thing about Ron Paul is that he's not a "real Republican." "Real Republicans" are frauds and liars such as George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Rudy Giuliani, religious nuts like Pat Robertson and John Hagee, or hypocritical perverts like Mark Foley and Larry Craig.
In fact, government itself worldwide is in the control of the "prince of the power of the air" to put it in fundamentalist lingo. That's why I always agree with the candidate who wants to cut it. As Washington said, "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." You and George said it well - thanks, fellow Texican.
Despite his very real popularity across the political aisle, he is not likely to get enough people to switch parties in order to win the RNC nomination. But he is doing a great job of validating the perspective of all the negative propaganda uttered by leftists against Bush, Republicans, the War on Terror and national security. That’s not good. Anyone who sits quaking in his boots, hoping that Big Brother Bush will protect him from al Quaeda doesn't deserve to the right to vote. In fact, such a person is not an independent adult, as far as I'm concerned.
That's too funny. You're illegitimate. You know why? Because I said so. So there.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
I used to call them Democrats.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
Gov't. is not protecting jack except itself and it's growth. Not healthcare. Not the dollar. Not jobs. Not crime. Not the border. Not the veterans. Not the law. Not private property. Not freedom of speech. Whatever they say they want for Americans, is a window to what they seek to destroy for all.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Judging by the Alexa rank of the page from which this trash comes, this dimwitted liar is no threat to the Ron Paul campaign. His home page is even worse. I wouldn't worry too much about this crap.
Democrats want Big Brother to provide them with education, social security, medical care, etc. Republicans need Big Brother to protect them from (usually imagined) "terrorist threats." At least the first demand has some basis in reality rather than paranoia.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Not healthcare. Not the dollar. Not jobs. Not crime. Not the border. Not the veterans. Not the law. Not private property. Not freedom of speech. Exactly. The government is using the phony "terrorist threat" to consolidate power and rob us blind, while cutting back on the few legitimate services that they should be providing in exchange for tax dollars. And you have people like J.B. Williams and Mudfish on this thread cheering them on.
We all will answer some day. That will be when the funny part stops.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Not healthcare. Not the dollar. Not jobs. Not crime. Not the border. Not the veterans. Not the law. Not private property. Not freedom of speech. Whatever they say they want for Americans, is a window to what they seek to destroy for all. Bump it.
Thanks Mr. L. ! ~~~~~~~~~ <--- wavy things
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
I mostly meant they expect Government to save them from whatever, not realizing that Government more than likely created whatever monster they're wanting slain. The disagreement among Republic and Democrats isn't about whether government should control our lives, only which faction gets to be in charge.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
Psst. What to know a little secret, buddy boy? The only candidate who makes any sense is Paul. As for all the rest of them, there is not a dime's worth of difference between them. It doesn't matter if Hilary wins, or Obama, or Guiliani -- they're all the same. We don't have two political parties. We have two wings of the same party, and no matter who wins -- except for Paul -- the war is not going to stop, or taxes, or our limping economy. Or anything else. Always glad to enlighten the ignorant. By the way, if you're a Republican, are you a pedophile? These days, it seems to go with the territory.
Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.
I sure as hell wouldn't call anyone that is a supporter of this administration and it's policies "constitutionally conscious". Look at the track record - warrantless spying, erasure of Habeas Corpus, the Military Commissions Act, the Patriot Act, - these are NOT the actions of an administration concerned with the Constitution. I'll tell you how Ron Paul's supporters ARE going to be "dangerous" though. Traitors who are opposed to the fundamentals this country were founded upon (like you and the author of this bullshit hit piece) will be the likes on the top of the list of a group which Ron Paul supports - Gun Owners of America.
99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. All three have promised to appoint Oprah Winfrey as Secretary of Education. And how about Surgeon General Dr Phil...I kind of like the sound of that. I'm rooting for Huckleberry, I think Quickdraw McGraw will make an excellent Attorney General.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
What about Yogi and Boo boo?
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Im a Republican and support Paul.. many of his supporters arent Republicans that is true.. but they've actually changed parties or are young voters who are now registering.. Undermining the war on terror? Uh whoever wrote this article is buying into the bullshit..
Bears can't be in government.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
How about: Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
Buying into? You honestly don't think this crap is churned out by AEI?
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
I can't see Huckleberry appointing non Hanna-Babara characters to ANY position.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
Oh. Back to the drawing board professor.
The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Among Ron Paul’s top donor zip codes are of course parts of Texas, but also heavily liberal districts in Chicago (60614), San Francisco (94117), more than 80% of which supports Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer, and Los Angeles – Long Beach, which is his second largest donor area after Dallas.
#2. To: longnose gar, *Ron Paul for President 2008* (#0)
Real Republicans need to be aware and unite to block this effort to hijack the party nomination.
#3. To: longnose gar (#0)
Keywords: paultards, ronulans, paulestinians
#4. To: longnose gar (#1)
What we have here is a candidate trying to win the Republican nomination by raising money from liberals across the political aisle.
#5. To: longnose gar (#0)
#6. To: longnose gar (#0)
Real Republicans
#7. To: robin (#2)
Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
#8. To: christine (#3)
balls, corn, sardine, that you again?
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy
#9. To: Sam Houston (#6)
Furthermore, political parties are not in the Constitution.
#10. To: All (#9)
Joe Cocker - Unchain my Heart [1987]
#11. To: longnose gar (#7)
#12. To: robin (#2)
And who are the "Real Republicans" according to you and your "facts"?
#13. To: robin (#11)
You did not answer my question.
#14. To: longnose gar (#0)
#15. To: longnose gar (#0)
Republicans need a candidate that will unite and motivate conservative voters, not one that divides and undermines that process.
#16. To: longnose gar (#0)
(Edited)
So, how Republican is Republican candidate Ron Paul?
#17. To: Sam Houston. sane people (#6)
I hold out the hope, however slight, that this will happen. But if it does, I think it will have taken some sort of divine intervention. This country's political system is Satanic right now.
#18. To: longnose gar (#12)
(Edited)
Different things to different people, but it's safe to say you can rule out anyone who is supported by such groups as al Qaeda
#19. To: longnose gar (#0)
his campaign is increasingly likely to cause real trouble for the legitimate Republican nomination process.
#20. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#18)
In fact, such a person is not an independent adult, as far as I'm concerned.
#21. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#18)
Anyone who sits quaking in his boots, hoping that Big Brother Bush will protect him from al Quaeda doesn't deserve to the right to vote. In fact, such a person is not an independent adult, as far as I'm concerned.
#22. To: longnose gar (#0)
#23. To: Dakmar (#20)
I used to call them Democrats.
#24. To: Dakmar (#19)
#25. To: Peppa (#21)
Gov't. is not protecting jack except itself and it's growth.
#26. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)
And you have people like J.B. Williams and Mudfish on this thread cheering them on.
#27. To: Peppa (#21)
Gov't. is not protecting jack except itself and it's growth.
#28. To: lodwick (#27)
Bump it.
#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#23)
#30. To: longnose gar (#0)
(Edited)
#31. To: longnose gar (#0)
At a minimum, it is a demonstration of just what kind of people are behind the Ron Paul campaign, obviously, not constitutionally conscious people.
Steven Wright
#32. To: YertleTurtle (#30)
It doesn't matter if Hilary wins, or Obama, or Guiliana -- they're all the same.
#33. To: Dakmar (#32)
#34. To: innieway (#31)
GOA bump
#35. To: longnose gar (#0)
#36. To: Peppa (#33)
#37. To: Dakmar (#36)
#38. To: Zipporah (#35)
whoever wrote this article is buying into the bullshit..
#39. To: robin (#37)
#40. To: Dakmar (#36)
Bears can't be in government.
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