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Title: Supreme Court May Take First Look At Second Amendment Rights In 70 Years
Source: Associated Press
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Published: Nov 11, 2007
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2007-11-11 20:51:18 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 163
Comments: 10

Supreme Court justices have track records that make predicting their rulings on many topics more than a mere guess. Then there is the issue of the Second Amendment and guns, about which the court has said virtually nothing in nearly 70 years.

That could change in the next few months.

The justices are facing a decision about whether to hear an appeal from city officials in Washington, D.C., wanting to keep the capital's 31-year ban on handguns. A lower court struck down the ban as a violation of the Second Amendment rights of gun ownership.

The prospect that the high court might define gun rights under the Constitution is making people on both sides of the issue nervous.

"I wouldn't be confident on either side," said Mark Tushnet, a Harvard Law School professor and author of a new book on the battle over guns in the United States.

The court could announce as early as Tuesday whether it will hear the case.

The main issue before the justices is whether the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to own guns or instead spells out the collective right of states to maintain militias. The former interpretation would permit fewer restrictions on gun ownership.

The Second Amendment reads: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The federal appeals court for the District of Columbia was the first federal panel to strike down a gun-control law based on individual rights. The court ruled in favor of Dick Anthony Heller, an armed security guard whose application to keep a handgun at home was denied by the district.

Most other U.S. courts have said the Second Amendment does not contain a right to have a gun for purely private purposes.

Chicago has a similar handgun ban, but few other gun-control laws are as strict as the district's.

Four states - Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland and New York - are urging the Supreme Court to take the case because broad application of the appeals court ruling would threaten "all federal and state laws restricting access to firearms."

The district said its law, passed in 1976, was enacted by local elected officials who believed it was a sensible way to save lives. The law also requires residents to keep shotguns and rifles unloaded and disassembled or fitted with trigger locks.

The city's appeal asks the court to look only at the handgun ban because local law allows possession of other firearms.

Critics say the law has done little to curb violence, mainly because guns obtained legally from the district or through illegal means still are readily available.

Although the city's homicide rate has declined dramatically since peaking in the early 1990s, it ranks among the nation's highest, with 169 killings in 2006.

Heller said Washington remains a dangerous place to live. "People need not stand by and die," he said in court papers.

He said the Second Amendment gives him the right to keep working guns, including handguns, in his home for his own protection.

The last time the court examined the meaning of the Second Amendment was in a 1939 case in which two men claimed the amendment gave them the right to have sawed-off shotguns. A unanimous court ruled against them.

Gun control advocates say the 1939 decision in U.S. v. Miller settled the issue in favor of a collective right. Gun rights proponents say the decision has been misconstrued.

Chief Justice John Roberts has said the question has not been resolved by the Supreme Court. The 1939 decision "sidestepped" the issue of whether the Second Amendment right is individual or collective, Roberts said at his confirmation hearing in 2005.

"That's still very much an open issue," Roberts said.

Both the district government and Heller want the high court to take the case. The split among the appeals courts and the importance of the issue make it likely that the justices will do so, Tushnet said.

The case is District of Columbia v. Heller, 07-290.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

The prospect that the high court might define gun rights under the Constitution is making people on both sides of the issue nervous.

Tell the Nine Old Fools that Dr. Grim Reaper is looking for them.

What a useless bunch of old fools.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-11   20:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

The last time the court examined the meaning of the Second Amendment was in a 1939 case in which two men claimed the amendment gave them the right to have sawed-off shotguns. A unanimous court ruled against them.

Uh-oh.


I've already said too much.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-11-11   20:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

"I wouldn't be confident on either side," said Mark Tushnet, a Harvard Law School professor and author of a new book on the battle over guns in the United States.

I listen to nothing said by any professor on either coast.

Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-11-11   20:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S, christine, lodwick (#0)

Hooooo boy. I'm sure nothing can go wrong with this deal. (Gulps another Windsor, pounds head on radial-arm saw table.)

It doesn't matter how you play the game.
What's important is if you win or lose.
But even that doesn't matter much.

Esso  posted on  2007-11-11   21:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Esso (#4)

I have little, to no, hope of this going well for the 2nd.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-11   21:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lodwick (#5)

I doubt that they will even take the case.

This has been their 'mo' regarding 2A cases for sometime now.

However, if they do take on 'this one' it shall be interesting, indeed~!

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-11-11   21:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#6) (Edited)

I doubt that they will even take the case.

This has been their 'mo' regarding 2A cases for sometime now.

I hope that you're correct, but who knows with the new bots on board.

It would be nice if the courtroom were filled with guys in V outfits.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-11   21:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

The last time the court examined the meaning of the Second Amendment was in a 1939 case in which two men claimed the amendment gave them the right to have sawed-off shotguns. A unanimous court ruled against them.

If they're talking about "Miller", which I think they are, the decision is because the defendant disappeared into moonshine country and didn't show up in court. Hard to get any other outcome, really.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-11-11   22:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Brian S (#0)

Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Gun Control Case

By LINDA GREENHOUSE

WASHINGTON, Nov. 20 — The Supreme Court announced today that it would l decide whether the Constitution grants individuals the right to keep guns in their homes for private use, plunging the justices headlong into a divisive and long-running debate over how to interpret the Second Amendment’s guarantee of the “right of the people to keep and bear arms.”

The court accepted a case on the District of Columbia’s 31-year-old prohibition on the ownership of handguns. In adding the case to its calendar, for argument in March with a decision likely in June, the court not only raised the temperature of its current term but inevitably injected the issue of gun control into the presidential campaign.

The federal appeals court here, breaking with the great majority of federal courts to have examined the issue over the decades, ruled last March that the Second Amendment right was an individual one, not tied to service in a militia, and that the District of Columbia’s categorical ban on handguns was therefore unconstitutional.

Both the District of Columbia government and the winning plaintiff, Dick Anthony Heller, a security officer, urged the justices to review the decision. Mr. Heller, who carries a gun while on duty guarding the federal building that houses the administrative offices of the federal court system, wants to be able to keep his gun at home for self-defense.

Mr. Heller was one of six plaintiffs recruited by a wealthy libertarian lawyer, Robert A. Levy, who created and financed the lawsuit for the purpose of getting a Second Amendment case before the Supreme Court. The appeals court threw out the other five plaintiffs for lack of standing; only Mr. Heller had actually applied for permission to keep a gun at home and been turned down.

The Supreme Court last looked at the Second Amendment nearly 70 years ago in United States v. Miller, a 1939 decision that suggested, without explicitly deciding, that the right should be understood in connection with service in a militia. The Second Amendment provides: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

The justices chose their own wording for what they want to decide in the new case, District of Columbia v. Heller, No. 07-290. The question they posed is whether the provisions of the statute “violate the Second Amendment rights of individuals who are not affiliated with any state-regulated militia, but who wish to keep handguns and other firearms for private use in their homes.”

The court’s choice of words is almost never inadvertent, and its use of the phrase “state-regulated militia” was somewhat curious. The District of Columbia, of course, is not a state, and one of the arguments its lawyers are making in their appeal is that the Second Amendment simply does not apply to “legislation enacted exclusively for the District of Columbia.”

For that matter, the Supreme Court has never ruled that the Second Amendment even applies to the states, as opposed to the federal government. The court has applied nearly all the other provisions of the Bill of Rights to the states, leaving the Second Amendment as the most prominent exception. The justices evidently decided that this case was not the proper vehicle for exploring that issue, because as a nonstate, the District of Columbia is not in a position to argue it one way or another.

Because none of the justices now on the court have ever confronted a Second Amendment case, any prediction about how the court will rule is little more than pure speculation.

Of the hundreds of gun regulations on the books in states and localities around the country, the District of Columbia law is generally regarded as the most strict. Chicago comes the closest, banning the possession of handguns acquired since 1983 and requiring re-registration of older guns every two years. New York City permits handgun ownership with a permit issued by the Police Department.

The District of Columbia law not only bans ownership of handguns, but requires other guns like rifles and shotguns that may legally be kept in the home to be disassembled or kept under a trigger lock. The capital’s newly empowered City Council enacted the law in 1976 as one of its first measures after receiving home-rule authority from Congress.

The court’s order today indicated that it would review the handgun ban in light of the provision that permits, with restrictions, the other guns. The opposing sides in the lawsuit presented very different views of how the various provisions interact.

To the plaintiffs, the restrictions on the conditions under which rifles and shotguns may be kept means that homeowners are denied the right to possess “functional” weapons for self-defense. To the District of Columbia, the fact that these other guns are permitted shows that the law is nuanced and sensitive to gun owners’ needs. It takes about one minute to disengage a trigger lock.

In any event, a Supreme Court decision that finds the District of Columbia law unconstitutional would not necessarily invalidate other, more modest restrictions, such as those that permit handgun ownership for those who pass a background check and obtain a license. Since the only claim in the case is that law-abiding people have the right to keep a gun at home, the court will not have occasion to address restrictions on carrying guns.

In fact, lawyers on both sides of the case agreed today that a victory for the plaintiff in this case would amount to the opening chapter in an examination of the constitutionality of gun control rather than anything close to the final word.

“This is just the beginning,” said Alan Gura, the lead counsel for the plaintiff. He said in an interview that “gun laws that make sense,” such as those requiring background checks, would survive the legal attack, which he said was limited to “laws that do no good other than disarm law-abiding citizens.”

Whether the handgun ban has reduced crime in a city surrounded by less restrictive jurisdictions is a matter of heated dispute. Crime in the District of Columbia has mirrored trends in the rest of the country, dropping quite sharply during the 1990s but now experiencing some increase.

In striking down the District of Columbia law, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said that an individual-right interpretation of the Second Amendment would still permit “reasonable regulations,” but that a flat ban was not reasonable.

Denis Henigan, a lawyer at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which advocates strict gun control, said that if the justices agree with the appeals court, an important question for future cases will be “what legal standard the court will eventually adopt for evaluating other gun regulations.”

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-20   20:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#9)

I doubt that they will even take the case.

This has been their 'mo' regarding 2A cases for sometime now.

However, if they do take on 'this one' it shall be interesting, indeed~!

Brian S posted on 2007-11-11 21:11:30 ET

Yeah...so I was fucking wrong.

Find a 'gold star' and plaster it on your forehead for the rest of the night.

...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-11-20   22:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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