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Title: The Man Who Bombed Hiroshima
Source: Independent
URL Source: http://independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=2064
Published: Nov 12, 2007
Author: Anthony Gregory
Post Date: 2007-11-12 05:58:17 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 201
Comments: 11

The man who flew the plane that dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima passed away last week at the age of 92. Paul Warfield Tibbets, Jr. did not die from war wounds or violently at the hands of other people, years before his time. He died in hospice care, in a bed, from heart problems and strokes.

In stark contrast, the more than 100,000 civilians who were killed at Hiroshima 62 years ago were burnt, melted, vaporized, in an apocalyptic act of warfare. Many died painful deaths over a period of days or weeks. Others saw family members consumed by flames. Most were far younger than Tibbets was when he finally died. Thousands were children.

Is now the wrong time to discuss this? Tibbets called it a “damn big insult” when a Smithsonian exhibit commemorating Hiroshima’s fiftieth anniversary attempted to capture some of the suffering. If he didn’t think that was the right time for such reflection, then perhaps now is as good as any.

Although he was offended to see the victims remembered, he had said that he meant no insult himself when he reenacted the bombing in Texas in 1976, complete with mushroom cloud. He said he slept fine every night. He consistently affirmed he’d do it all over again.

People disagree on whether the nuking was a war crime. The 1946 Strategic Bombing Survey determined it had been unnecessary to the winning of the war. We know that Japan, demoralized from having dozens of cities obliterated in fire bombings, was extending peace feelers. “The Japanese were ready to surrender,” said Dwight Eisenhower, who as a general during that war believed the atom bomb was “completely unnecessary.” Admiral William D. Leahy, General Douglas MacArthur, and many other high officials at the time agreed.

Japan wanted only to keep its emperor. Understandably, the nation feared the consequences of the unconditional surrender that Truman and the Allies demanded. They had reason to fear brutalities exceeding the very harsh treatment of Germany under the Versailles Treaty after World War I, which had come after a mere conditional surrender.

Some have tried to rewrite history and have said that to win the war without nuclear weapons, the U.S. would have had to invade and suffer intolerable losses, that the atomic bomb “saved a million lives.” But there is no reason to doubt that Japan’s cause was lost by mid-1945—even without an invasion. Practically every major city was destroyed. The people were blockaded and starving. Then, perhaps as a show of strength to Stalin, the U.S. government nuked two of Japan’s remaining cities, introducing nuclear warfare to the world, and ultimately, allowed the Japanese to keep their emperor anyway.

Robert McNamara, who worked with Curtis LeMay in planning the pre-Hiroshima fire bombings of Japan, admitted in recent years that he and LeMay were acting as “war criminals.” Does this term apply to Tibbets?

We know Tibbets did not shy away from personal responsibility. He proudly took credit for planning the nuclear attack.

This raises uncomfortable questions: If your government orders you to slaughter tens of thousands of defenseless men, women, and children, to whom and to what do you owe your loyalty? If you’re willing to take credit for your supposed acts of wartime heroism, should you also be ready to accept blame if it turns out you committed an atrocity?

Some might say it’s insensitive to ask now whether Tibbets was a war criminal. Indeed, there is no need to condemn this man upon his passing. Even if he was guilty of a war crime, he is now beyond the reaches of human justice.

But it remains crucial for us to consider the implications of what he did. It is important to our sense of individual responsibility in a world where, especially in times of war, people think mainly in terms of the collective. It is this fallacy in moral reasoning that leads otherwise decent people to commit unspeakable barbarities against their fellow man.

We must not lose track of the individual’s role, even in the chaos of war. For whatever we think of Tibbets, it is the refusal to view people as individuals, the branding of everyone as merely an expendable part of a larger group, which brought about the atomic bombings and so many other horrors of World War II.

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#1. To: Ada (#0)

This raises uncomfortable questions: If your government orders you to slaughter tens of thousands of defenseless men, women, and children, to whom and to what do you owe your loyalty? If you’re willing to take credit for your supposed acts of wartime heroism, should you also be ready to accept blame if it turns out you committed an atrocity?

Pure unadulterated BS.

Long after the fact and the author was not there. He does not and will not state what is the underlying problem with this current PC morality nonsense.

The A-bomb was created to drop on "Germany" not Japan. Had it been ready six months earlier these same people would be be touting how it was vitally necessary that it was dropped on Germany to annihilate those horrible Germans that slaughtered so many Jews.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-12   6:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada (#0)

I heard him interviewed a few years before he died. He said he is "no morality" in war. And like everyone else back then, he had no idea what an atomic bomb could do. To them it was just another weapon.

I also heard a soldier say about the ground war in the Pacific, "After that, we never took prisoners." He was talking about the bodies of mutilated American soldiers they had found, ones mutilated by the Japanese.

The Japanese were notorious about things like that. Look at what they did to China, especially Nanking.

The two bombs on Japan were unnecessary, but hindsight is 100%.

I also find it half sad, half amusing, that the Japanese and Germans have become such fervent pacifists, after getting their asses so thoroughly kicked. Had they won, oddly, I don't think they would be.

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YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-11-12   6:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: YertleTurtle (#2)

Unfortunately American war leaders will never be forced to surrender unconditionally to anyone, even though our leaders have ordered to be committed as many or more war crimes in the last six years as the leaders of the Third Reich did.

I would argue that it is the American people themselves who have "lost" during the serial wars its leaders have started for more than half a century. There is no way we can get the demons at the top to surrender and thus we will continue to be ground down into penury and servitude. No more First World here. You'll have to travel to Canada (if it is even allowed) to see what civilization is like.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2007-11-12   8:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: YertleTurtle (#2)

I also find it half sad, half amusing, that the Japanese and Germans have become such fervent pacifists, after getting their asses so thoroughly kicked. Had they won, oddly, I don't think they would be.

Well- the US will never have to worry about being taken over by a foreign power due to simple geography. Of course- the crimes comitted by Germany and Japan were not crimes merely because they lost. They were crimes regardless of subjective political outcomes. Had they won - I imagine Himmler would have have died like Tibbits- in a bed- a pensioned old man who would have said the exact same things as Tibbits to justify himself but just because a sick society refuses to recognize and punish evil acts doesn't mean they are not evil.

Yes- Germany and Japan are quite cautious about going to war. They certainly don't envision their civiliasations as being the height of Human achievement as they used to- and as a certain North American country thinks of itself now. They suffered horridly for their evil hubris. And this suffering has a lot to do with who they are as nations now. Humble, empathetic, seekers of consensus, non militaristic, commerce minded, quite capable of self examination and self criticism, and proud of these attributes.

The US won't have its cities fire bombed. Half the women of Chicago won't ever be raped by a vengeful foreign army. Americans will never face much of any consequence at foreign hands for anything their country does abroad. No comeuppance. No justice. All crimes just sort of blathered over by a mute embedded press- only whispers on the internet. Those who talk about them- "kooks" and irrelevent to "mainstream" political dialogue in this country.

But they are crimes nonetheless.

And while never to be defeated by force of foreign arms- Americans will be devoured by the evil they not only tolerate but applaud. And while it may not be as dramatic or as quick a retribution as having your country reduced to ashes by a foreign force- this self devouring will prove to be far worse a fate.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-12   8:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Burkeman1 (#4)

Had they won - I imagine Himmler would have have died like Tibbits- in a bed- a pensioned old man who would have said the exact same things as Tibbits to justify himself but just because a sick society refuses to recognize and punish evil acts doesn't mean they are not evil.

Only a sick person like you would ever compare Tibbits to Himmler.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-12   9:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#1)

Why is it PC?

What difference does it make who the bomb was intended for. What matters is how it was used. It wasn't used to defend the U.S. It was used as a terror weapon. Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't military targets. They were residential districts and among the few remaining cities unaffected by fire bombings.

Japan was already willing to surrender on the condition that Emperor Hirohito would not be arrested. The U.S. demanded unconditional surrender and dropped the two bombs until Japan agreed to unconditional surrender. Emperor Hirohito was allowed to remain anyway so all of that death and devastation was unnecessary.

Alan Chapman  posted on  2007-11-12   12:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Alan Chapman (#6)

It wasn't used to defend the U.S.

I am sure many of my friends that were under the gun to invade Japan in 1945 would disagree with you. They were Americans and liked living.

Long after the fact moral judgments usually do not agree with those of people that had to endure.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-12   12:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Your knowledge of history consists of little more than political talking points from high school history class. I couldn't care less what your friends believed. They were undoubtedly being fed a steady regiment of political pablum from their superior officers who were being fed the same crap from theirs. None were about to question any of it.

Alan Chapman  posted on  2007-11-12   13:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Alan Chapman (#6)

The logic at the time was, that the will of the people needed to be broken. That's why Dresden was bombed too. Some say the A-bomb shortened the war. In hindsight it all seems highly immoral. Hindsight's easy.

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robin  posted on  2007-11-12   15:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9)

In fact, Japan was pursuing surrender options through intermediaries. Furthermore, generals, politicians, and administration officials almost unanimously agreed that the bombings were unnecessary. Their autobiographies and memoirs attest to this. It was known that Japan's capacity to make war was at an end. An armed invasion would've been a needless waste of lives and resources. Virtually every major city was in ruins.

Hindsight is easy. Foresight is also easy when you're informed and educated. When you're in a position to act with impunity, and with no risk of danger, then foresight becomes irrelevant.

Alan Chapman  posted on  2007-11-12   15:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Alan Chapman (#10)

Basically, they had a new toy and it needed a real test. I've heard that there was a miscommunication regarding the surrender options, forget the details now.

The news had been filled with Japanese atrocities, there was no real opposition. And, it was believed it would save American lives.

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robin  posted on  2007-11-12   16:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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