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Title: There Are Too Many Veterans
Source: Lew Rockwell
URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance126.html
Published: Nov 12, 2007
Author: Laurence Vance
Post Date: 2007-11-12 06:41:23 by Ada
Keywords: None
Views: 2311
Comments: 251

We have too many veterans. We have too many living veterans. We have too many dead veterans. We have too many wounded veterans. We have too many disabled veterans. We have too many veterans who have fought in wars. We have too many veterans who have never fired a shot. Any way you look at it, we have too many veterans.

Veterans Day began as Armistice Day – a day to commemorate the signing of the armistice on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month that ended fighting on the Western Front in World War I, "the war to end all wars." A few years after World War II, the holiday was changed to Veterans Day as a tribute to all soldiers who fought for their country. Veterans Day has now become a day to honor, not just those who have served in the military during wartime, but those who have served during peacetime or are serving now. It has also become a day – even though we have Armed Forces Day – to recognize all things military.

Why?

Why do most Americans hold veterans and current members of the U.S. military in such high esteem? Why is there such a military mindset in the United States?

One reason people feel this way is because they falsely believe that those who serve in the military are somehow defending our freedoms. They are convinced that it is the military that stands between a free society and subjugation by some foreign power. They think that it is because of the military that we still have our First Amendment rights. It is inevitable that whenever I write about the military I receive an e-mail or two from a current or former member of the military who closes his rebuke (which usually argues that I have the freedom to write the "trash" that I write because of the U.S. military) with this simplistic cliché: "If you can read this e-mail, thank a teacher. If you can read it in English, thank a Marine." Has anyone ever thought this through? Are we are supposed to believe that the German army that couldn’t cross the English Channel to invade Great Britain and make its population speak German was going to cross the Atlantic Ocean to invade the United States and make us all speak German if it wasn’t for the Marines? Or was it Japanese that the Marines kept us from speaking? Or perhaps it was Spanish because of the tremendous threat we faced from Spain during the Spanish-American War? Were we in danger of having to speak Russian during the Cold War? Looking at the history of U.S. military interventions, there is one thing we can thank the Marines for: We can thank the Marines for helping to carry out an evil, interventionist U.S. foreign policy. Thanks a lot, jarheads. Semper Fi and all that jazz. Our freedoms, our liberties, and our Constitution that all Marines swear to uphold are under attack by our government. The state is a greater enemy than any foreign country or ruler. If the Marines are to really defend our freedoms, then they should be deployed to Washington D.C. After they oversee the closure of most federal agencies and expel the bureaucrats from the city, they can protect the Constitution (with fixed bayonets) from its daily assault by the members of Congress. In that case I would even say with you: "The few, the proud, the Marines."

Another reason the military is held in such high esteem is that most Americans wrongfully assume that the military is actually engaged in defending the country. They don’t know about the hundreds of U.S. military bases on foreign soil. They don’t realize that there are thousands of U.S. troops stationed abroad to defend other countries. They have no idea that the United States has troops in 150 different regions of the world. Instead, they think that it is because of the military fighting terrorists "over there" that we don’t have to fight them "over here." The threat of a conquest of America by foreign invasion is nonexistent. And if we were attacked with nuclear weapons, even the Marines would be helpless to defend us. Although the purpose of the U.S. military should only be to defend the United States from genuine attacks and credible enemies, it has primarily been used to intervene in the affairs of other countries. When all of the troops come home and start guarding our borders and patrolling our coasts then, and only then, can we say that the military is defending the country. Even the Coast Guard, which actually patrols our coasts, is tainted – thanks to another unconstitutional, unwinnable war that the government is engaged in that is more destructive than the "enemy" we are fighting: the war on drugs.

Still another reason for the military mindset is that members of the military are viewed as "public servants." Members of Congress like to brag about how they have been in public service their whole life. Some policemen and firemen have jumped on the "public service" bandwagon as well. But if you want to be a policeman or a fireman, fine, just don’t expect us get excited about the fact that you have a job. And plenty of jobs are just as dangerous. Veterans are looked upon as special because they "served" in the military. It didn’t take any special education, experience, or accomplishments to land a job in the military – they just signed on the dotted line. We don’t bestow any special honors on bricklayers, mechanics, and accountants; yet, we see plenty of bumper stickers that say things like: "My son is in the Air Force." We never see "My son is a plumber" or "My son is a garbage collector" or "My son is a waiter"? And why not? The people in those occupations don’t drop bombs on anyone. They "serve" some important needs of society. Shouldn’t we honor them as least as much as soldiers?

It is unfortunate that some of the most vocal defenders of today’s military are Christians. It is even worse that churches fawn over current and former members of the military on Veterans Day. In response to my recent article "Should Anyone Join the Military," I was chastised by two detractors.

The first asked if I could read the Old Testament and still say that no one should serve in the military. I was also told that God instructed the Jews and others to destroy people. It is not hard for me to read the Old Testament and still say that no one should serve in the military. America is not Israel, and the U.S. military is not God’s army. And telling me that God instructed the Jews and others to destroy people is like telling George Bush that he is the decider. There is no denying that God instructed the Jews and others to destroy people. But George Bush is not God, America is not the nation of Israel, and God didn’t command the U.S. military to kill anyone.

My other detractor appealed to Alphonsus Liguori and maintained that as the sword maker has no control over the product, so "the soldier does not commit an actual sin unless he chooses to break a moral law while in the military." It is "the leaders or military officers who sin when they issue immoral orders." Military service is "morally neutral." But what kind of morality is this? It certainly isn’t Christian. What kind of morality says that it would be okay to kill someone in an unjust war in his own country who was no threat to you or your country because you are wearing a military uniform? Oh, I forgot: Just don’t break a moral law while you are killing him.

It is high time that Americans stop elevating members of the military to a position of honor. It is long past the time when veterans have done anything honorable. We should abolish Veterans Day. And because of our shameful foreign policy and militarism during the twentieth century, we should abolish any Armistice Day celebration as well.

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#2. To: Ada (#0)

It is high time that Americans stop elevating members of the military to a position of honor. It is long past the time when veterans have done anything honorable. We should abolish Veterans Day. And because of our shameful foreign policy and militarism during the twentieth century, we should abolish any Armistice Day celebration as well.

I'll second that. Nothing is more revolting than the legions of American "Veterans"- most of whom never heard a shot fired in anger- and did little more than jack off for 2 to 4 years on the American tax payer dime - demand that we kiss their ass and "thank them." For what? Eating, drinking? Going to titty bars? Taking drugs? Supporting child prostitute pimps in the Phillipines and a dozen other places aroudn the world? Not a living "veteran" has ever defended this country from a real threat. Not one.

The veteran scam is a drain on this country. They are even more parasitical than the welfare recipients I am sure many of them bitch about. Oh- you sat on your fat ass on Diego Garcia drinking Mai Tai's for two years while you spent 4 hours a day moving shit around and another 4 hours hiding from your CO to avoid another duty? And I am suppossed to pay for you to go to college and pay for your health care the rest of your life? I have support your below market home owner's mortgage rates?

Get lost. My dad is a "Veteran". You know what he did for the 4 years he spent in the great noble US Army? Sat on his ass smoking cigarettes, playing cards and burying excess gasoline and paint and other supplies so it would look like they were doing what they were suppossed to be doing. Not that anyone would have cared one way or the other.

Standing militaries for most countries are a necessary evil. There is NO REASON for this country to have one- at all. There is no peer enemy that could hurt the US in this HEMISPHERE! There is no reason the US should be spending 100 billion on its military much less 1 trillion! Give me a break. SO sick of this shit.

And if I see another banner on an overpass "thanking" some dipshit for his "service" in Iraq I am going to puke. Thanks for what/ Killing some innocnent raghead who just doesn't want you there? For being an idiot and thinking that war has anything to do with "defending" America?

Ughhh.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-12   8:02:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Burkeman1 (#2)

Just because someone wasn't on the front line, doesn't mean they should not be recognized.

No standing army? That's a recipe for disaster.

robin  posted on  2007-11-12   15:24:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: robin (#57)

No standing army? That's a recipe for disaster.

The opposite is almost invariably true. Ask the Costa Ricans why they do so well in one of the most unstable parts of the world without one. You're 1000 times more likely to have your standing army turned on the people in a coup or purge than you are to be conquered by an outside force.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2007-11-12   15:41:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: SmokinOPs (#65)

Ask the Costa Ricans why they do so well in one of the most unstable parts of the world without one.

I expect that's because of our nearby presence.

WWII made it clear that a ready military is part of surviving the future. That does not mean license to preemptive invasions or domestic tyranny. For that you need a corrupt Congress and a thoroughly corrupt and treasonous WH.

robin  posted on  2007-11-12   16:06:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: robin (#70) (Edited)

For that you need a corrupt Congress and a thoroughly corrupt and treasonous WH.

What do you think corrupts Congress and has made the White House the seat of delusional wannabe Neros of the world? It is the US armed forces. It is the greatest scam ever. Americans resisted the scam when there was no mass media to scare them with ludicruous tales of "threats". It was hard to convince a literate Iowa farmer in 1875 that his taxes needed to be raised to support a military to invade China and get a piece like every other Europeon nation was doing or had done. But- with the dawn of the radio age- and the income tax- it was off to World War One and Americans have been buying the scam ever since.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-12   16:24:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Burkeman1 (#75)

It's the handful of greedy industrial-complex corporations.

The Cold War is dead, long live the new Cold War!

robin  posted on  2007-11-12   16:26:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: robin (#79)

It's the handful of greedy industrial-complex corporations.

No, it is the standing military. The greedy industrial complex corps naturally exist to feed the standing military. No standing military- no complex.

This country does not now, nor has it ever needed a standing military. Ever. I know this hard to see given that we are raised in a sea of military worshipping goop since we have been in diapers- but it is the fact. This country cannot- cannot- be invaded. The greatest military on Earth with the largest most sophisticated navy the world had ever known couldn't keep 13 colonies with barely 2 million people- only a third of which supported the rebellion- from seceeding. And Germany was going to invade with Tiger tanks and "take over" America? Japan? LOL.

And in this day and age- when a few tactical nuke missles could wipe out any invasion fleet in mid ocean or decimate any landing staging area- there is really really really no reason for a standing military larger than what is necessary to keep a few nukes polished and ready.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-12   16:36:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Burkeman1 (#85)

Well being invaded by an aggressive nation is too high a price to pay for not giving the greedy corporations a military to sell to. There are other options.

We have not been invaded, but there has been a silent coup. Our military has been mute while we fight wars for Israel. Bribery has shut the mouths of many, I imagine blackmail shut the rest.

Assuming we rid ourselves of this evil plague brought to us by the Bush cabal, we will still need a high-tech standing army. The world is complex and China has a 200,000,000 standing army.

robin  posted on  2007-11-12   16:46:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: robin (#88)

Our military has been mute while we fight wars for Israel.

Do you really think that Israel is to blame for why the US is up to its neck in the ME in blood? Israel is just one excuse. If Israel didn't exist DC would still be using its collosal military in the ME or some other part of the world.

Look- when you are an empire- when you aspire to rule the world- smaller countries are going to try and use you for their ends. And some faction in the empire will think it is a good idea.

That Israel seeks to use a DC Beltway warfare state already pre-disposed to foreign involvement- that wants wars to justify its powers and existence- that goes looking for countries to beat up on and invade- that looks for trouble- is only natural. Israel is under no illusion. The US is not it's friend. They are using an imperial state that is looking for wars anyway- to fight theirs.

If it wasn't Israel's wars- it would be someone elses. Nearly all the wars Imperial Rome fought aided or helped out some other party that sought to use Rome to achieve their local ends. And Rome was more than willing to be used. The legions just needed something to do.

This idea that Israel is "controlling" US policy is rather naive and quite simplistic. Israel is not getting the DC warfare state to do anything it isn't already more than willing and ready to do.

A few blips in history and it could have been Iran that the US is fighting for in the ME. The "who" or the "what" or the "where" really doesn't matter to the Empire. Hell- if the US had 3 million wealthy, educated, and highly successful Armenian Americans instead of just 300,000- maybe the US would be fighting on behalf of "Greater Armenian" now instead of Greater Israel. It really doesn't matter to DC.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-12   17:40:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Burkeman1 (#91)

If Israel didn't exist DC would still be using its collosal military in the ME or some other part of the world.

I agree.

This idea that Israel is "controlling" US policy is rather naive and quite simplistic. Israel is not getting the DC warfare state to do anything it isn't already more than willing and ready to do.

But Israel does exist, and the most powerful lobby is AIPAC.

robin  posted on  2007-11-12   17:50:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: robin (#92)

But Israel does exist, and the most powerful lobby is AIPAC.

And if AIPAC didn't exist- it would be someone else. If there wasn't a Jew in the United States- the US empire would still be kicking down doors in the ME or some other part of the world at the behest of some other self interested party. The point is- it doesn't matter to DC whose wars they fight. They want to fight elective wars.

You know what prevents the US from siding with Iran and bullying Israel? An Iran lobby and a few million partisan Iranian Americans at the ear of the emporer. That's all.

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-12   18:01:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Burkeman1 (#94)

You know what prevents the US from siding with Iran and bullying Israel? An Iran lobby and a few million partisan Iranian Americans at the ear of the emporer. That's all.

I'm not following you here, could you clarify this statement?

robin  posted on  2007-11-12   19:24:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#108. To: robin (#99)

You know what prevents the US from siding with Iran and bullying Israel? An Iran lobby and a few million partisan Iranian Americans at the ear of the emporer. That's all.

I'm not following you here, could you clarify this statement?

LOL

Surely you /sarc.

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