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Title: Former pilots and officials call for new U.S. UFO probe
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1248419720071112
Published: Nov 12, 2007
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2007-11-12 17:36:00 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 97
Comments: 7

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich may have been ridiculed for saying he had seen a UFO, but for some former military pilots and other observers, unidentified flying objects are no laughing matter.

An international panel of two dozen former pilots and government officials called on the U.S. government on Monday to reopen its generation-old UFO investigation as a matter of safety and security given continuing reports about flying discs, glowing spheres and other strange sightings.

"Especially after the attacks of 9/11, it is no longer satisfactory to ignore radar returns ... which cannot be associated with performances of existing aircraft and helicopters," they said in a statement released at a news conference.

The panelists from seven countries, including former senior military officers, said they had each seen a UFO or conducted an official investigation into UFO phenomena.

The subject of UFOs grabbed the spotlight in the U.S. presidential race last month when Kucinich, a member of Congress from Ohio, said during a televised debate with other Democratic candidates that he had seen one.

Former presidents Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter are both reported to have claimed UFO sightings.

Most turn out to be misidentified aircraft, satellites or meteors. A panelist who once worked for Britain's Ministry of Defense said 5 percent of incidents cannot be explained.

But the sightings are often dismissed by authorities without proper investigations, UFO activists say.

"It's a question of who you going to believe: your lying eyes or the government?" remarked John Callahan, a former Federal Aviation Administration investigator, who said the CIA in 1987 tried to hush up the sighting of a huge lighted ball four times the size of a jumbo jet in Alaska.

The panel, organized by a group dedicated to winning credibility for the study of UFOs, urged Washington to resume UFO investigations through the U.S. Air Force or NASA.

"It would certainly, I think, take a lot of angst out of this issue," said former Arizona Gov. Fife Symington, who said he was among hundreds who saw a delta-shaped craft with enormous lights silently traverse the sky near Phoenix in 1997.

The Air Force investigated 12,618 UFO reports from 1947 to 1969 in what was known as Project Blue Book. Investigators concluded that the incidents posed no threat and there was no evidence of space aliens or a super technology in operation.

"Since the termination of Project Blue Book, nothing has occurred that would support a resumption of UFO investigations," the Air Force said on its Web site.

(Reporting by David Morgan; Editing by Joanne Kenen, David Alexander, Stuart Grudgings)

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Most turn out to be misidentified aircraft, satellites or meteors.

They left out swamp gas, one of the first explanations used to discredit observers.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-12   18:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

"Otis T. Carr and the Tesla Saucers

by Doug Yurchey – World http://mysteries.com

You must always work with Mother Nature. Force is never necessary. The laws of the physical universe are really very simple.’ – Ralph Ring, interviewed by Kerry Cassidy, August 2006

‘My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety.’ – Nikola Tesla, interviewed in The New York Herald Tribune, October 15, 1911

‘The vehicle was simply an extension of their own bodies because it was tied into their neurological systems…’ – Col. Philip J. Corso, The Day After Roswell

Otis T. Carr (1904-1980?) was a protégé of the great inventor Nikola Tesla. Carr and his team constructed a number of fully functional, flying saucers in the late 1950s. The flying disks worked and were demonstrated. Carr was serious about ‘taking his craft to the Moon.’ However, two weeks after a dramatic test flight, their laboratory was forcibly closed. Federal agents confiscated equipment as well as all documentation. Authorities told them Carr’s project would ‘destroy the monetary system of the United States.’

Ralph Ring, now aged 72, was aboard that incredible and successful test flight. He and Carr, with their 45-foot saucer, transported themselves 10 miles at the speed of light!

IMPORTANT: Click on the Project Camelot link and download Ralph Ring speak of Otis T. Carr, the events leading to the OTC crafts and the project’s eventual shutdown by the feds: **** http://www.projectcamelot.net/ralph_ring.html ........"

**** thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7479

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-11-12   23:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

George H. [Scherff] Bush's father [?] was one of the last persons to see Nikola Tesla alive:

"According to Otto Skorzeny, pictured is the Scherff family and a few friends (circa 1938). Holding “Mother" Scherff’s hand at left is Martin Bormann. In front is Reinhardt Gehlen. In back is Joseph Mengele and to his right is Skorzeny as a young man. At center right (in the German navy uniform) is George H. Scherff, Jr. and his father George H. Scherff, Sr. Bormann became Hitler’s second in command. Reinhardt Gehlen was a chief SS officer and assassin who was smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip. Skorzeny was Hitler's bodyguard and SS spy/assassin who came to the U.S. after the war under Project Paperclip. Skorzeny and GHW Bush were instrumental in merging Nazi (SS) intelligence with the OSI to form the CIA with "Wild Bill" Donovan and Allen Dulles. These guys were also part of CIA mind control experiments such as MK-ULTRA. SS officer and physician Joseph Mengele, the notoriously sadistic “Angel of Death” of Auschwitz, escaped Germany to South America after the war. George H. Scherff, Jr., became the 41st President of the United States as GHW Bush and George H. Scherff, Sr., was Nicola Tesla’s “trusted assistant.”....

A biographical article about Nikola Tesla appeared in the Tesla Tech, Inc. magazine, “Extraordinary Technology,” Volume 4, Number 3, Aug., Sept., Oct., 2006. [15] The article, written by Dustin Wallace, spoke of Tesla’s childhood, some of his inventions, and his last days. Wallace wrote (pp. 21-22), “The Yugoslav Monarchy in Exile was summoned to visit Tesla in the fall of 1942. However, Charlotte Muzar, a secretary, paid Tesla the visit. From his condition upon her arrival she felt as though he may not live through the night. Another friend of Tesla’s, Kenneth Swezey visited him during the time and noted that he was existing on warm milk and Nabisco crackers alone. It was apparent that Tesla was nearing the end of his time. By late December of 1942, Tesla began meeting with two U.S. government agents in order to share some of his most sensitive discoveries. These men carried away many of his documents for microfilming.”

“On January 4, 1943, Tesla’s faithful assistant, George Scherff, visited Tesla for the last time, Tesla was found deceased in his hotel room on the morning of January 8. 1943. He had passed away between those four days since Scherff’s visit.”

The article continued, “Following Tesla’s death the United States Office of Alien Property, under the instructions of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, confiscated all of Tesla’s papers and property. This was an interesting maneuver considering that Tesla was a United States citizen.”

The significance of this benign description of Tesla’s inventions and his last days has a direct relationship to the previously unknown claims of Otto Skorzeny. As Skorzeny described (to Berman) in detail his involvement with George H. W. Bush (George H. Scherff, Jr.) in organizing the CIA by absorbing Nazi S.S. agents,” he intimated that it was Reinhard Gehlen and himself who murdered Nikola Tesla on January 6, 1943 by strangulation/suffocation.

Prior to the murder, Skorzeny and Gehlen “spoke in great detail to Tesla about his most-advanced technologies and then stole the blueprints of his best, most-secret inventions.”

Were these the “two U.S. government agents” about whom Dustin Wallace wrote? The timing of George Scherff’s last visit to Nikola Tesla was suspicious, as well......"

www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-11-12   23:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#1)

They left out swamp gas, one of the first explanations used to discredit observers.

By J. Allen Hynek, who was a 3rd-rate science teacher in a community college somewhere, and a paid shill for the air force. He later professed belief in UFOs.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-11-13   1:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

Have you seen the saucers?


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-11-13   18:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: MUDDOG (#5)

Have you seen the saucers?

Not 'saucers' but I and another witnessed six objects screaming across the Houston night sky displaying maneveurs and speed that I don't think is currently available on this plant. Totally silent I might add.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-11-13   19:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#6)

An international panel of two dozen former pilots and government officials

Some of these guys were on the Larry King show a few nights ago. Good show.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-11-13   22:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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