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Title: A Solution for LibertyPost
Source: self
URL Source: http://none
Published: Nov 13, 2007
Author: self
Post Date: 2007-11-13 00:34:04 by Minerva
Keywords: None
Views: 9095
Comments: 201

There's a lot of conflict on LibertyPost right now regarding Goldi's new Ron Paul rule. A lot of people think its unfair to ban discussion of a particular candidate - and it probably is.

I have a suggestion for solving the problem. Goldi should just ban all political discussion on Libertypost. Discussion should be limited to a bunch of guys sitting around calling each other fags and muzbots - and maybe telling each other to shut up.

This would be fair to everyone and it wouldn't really change the content of the site that much.

I would be curious to hear what others think of this.

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#21. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

It would be like a breath of fresh air and Goldi wouldn't have headaches and money problems to bitch about.

I'd like to see a dated list of her hissy-fit posts .... it might suggest an interesting diagnosis.

Oh, forget it, I'm probably just paranoid ... my ex-wife had PMS.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-11-13   9:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

After reading the remark Goldi made about bandwidth costs I think that she is either ignorant or a liar. I work in a data center, and I've also had plenty of dealings with other hosting companies. For what she claims to be paying for bandwidth they should be throwing in a dedicated server. Hardware and bandwidth cost a fraction of what they used to.

Alan Chapman  posted on  2007-11-13   11:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Alan Chapman (#22)

I have a dedicated server on the net with effectively unlimited bandwidth, and I pay a flat $200/month.

thoughtomator  posted on  2007-11-13   19:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: PercyDovetonsils (#3)

It's so infected it's probably lost, without a clean sweep. Goldi let it go to hell.

I agree. It's nothing but a running food fight anymore, there are so few people there I can discuss issues with who are willing to be even remotely honest. It's pointless to argue with people who aren't interested in truth.

thoughtomator  posted on  2007-11-13   19:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: thoughtomator (#23)

hi, thoughtomator, welcome to 4um.

christine  posted on  2007-11-13   19:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: thoughtomator (#24)

It's pointless to argue with people who aren't interested in truth.

or who may be paid to do what they do. ;)

christine  posted on  2007-11-13   19:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: thoughtomator (#24)

Hello. I'm still finding my way around here, thoughtomator. I've seen some of the barbs traded back and forth over there, and I can see why you're unhappy.

buckeye  posted on  2007-11-13   19:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Alan Chapman (#22)

For what she claims to be paying for bandwidth they should be throwing in a dedicated server.

That's what they have...a dedicated server.

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-11-13   19:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeye (#27)

I just arrived, myself. Sounds like cooler heads and a little more common sense prevail around here.

thoughtomator  posted on  2007-11-13   19:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: thoughtomator (#29)

Reading a little will show you that the arguments run deep here, too.

buckeye  posted on  2007-11-13   19:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: iconoclast (#16)

Yes, I miss him too. He was the greatest. ;-)

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-11-16   1:19:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Minerva (#0)

Liberty Post is offered for use as the modern day electronic "town crier" or "broadside." As such, all political news and discussion, as well as current events, news of the day, scientific, medical and technical advances are welcome for discussion. We do not limit discussion to any specific political point of view, since truth can only exist where there is freedom to discuss those issues. There is no censorship of political ideas here.

We do insist that all users abide by the rules of civility. We challenge all users to exercise their manners in the way our Founding Fathers did. Our audience will be made of men, and women of all ages, as well as teens, and educated youngsters. As such, we insist that manners must be adhered to, in order to respect each other. No past personal issues or grievances will be allowed to interrupt discussions of the news and current events.

Should any user defy the rules of civility, exercise poor manners, their rudeness, personal attacks, intended disruptions, and mean-spirited actions will be rewarded with a revocation of rights of participation, which can be temporary or permanent, but no political point of view will be censored under any circumstances.

Spirited debate, varied opinions and points of view are the lifeblood of Liberty. We welcome you to our site and challenge you to participate in the exercise of your First Amendment rights in debating political issues! But caution is advised: this Liberty can be addicting, and the experience of open political dialog that may cause you to be exposed to ideas and people that can change your life dramatically.

How can she not be embarrased by her censorship? I mean, she HAS to see that what she's done is exactly opposite of her own 'mission statement' if you will. A site that is strictly for political discussion banning threads about a presidential candidate? That's ridiculous.

I signed up on LP before I really did any exploring to see what the place was about, and I have to say, I was shocked at what I encountered. I've been on a few forums but I've never seen anything as dysfunctional as LP. I guess, from the stories I've heard there, it's a good thing I didn't sign on at FR.

As soon as I saw Goldi's post, I voiced my displeasure and left, and I won't go back. It might be different if a person could have an honest, open and adult dscussion with those you might disagree with, but that is impossible there.

crockett  posted on  2007-11-16   22:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: crockett (#32)

As soon as I saw Goldi's post, I voiced my displeasure and left, and I won't go back. It might be different if a person could have an honest, open and adult dscussion with those you might disagree with, but that is impossible there.

Well you may not need to worry about going back. LP's been down for about 15 minutes now. Who knows, maybe Goldi had another one of her breakdowns and pulled the plug on the whole shebang. Now THAT would be funny.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-11-16   22:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: crockett (#32)

Your objective perspective is appreciated.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-16   22:29:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#33)

False alarm. It's back up.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-11-16   22:30:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: crockett (#32)

Hi crockett...

The suppression of posts re any candidate IMO is more than contemptible .. if one candidate is banned then all should be.. if Goldi portrays LP as a site for 'debating political issues' then what transpired is beyond just being hypocritical..it's fraudulent.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-16   22:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Zipporah (#36)

No one on LP has the right to complain about FR again.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-16   22:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: robin (#37)

No one on LP has the right to complain about FR again.

Youre absolutely right.. I've said it time and again.. LP is FR's annex.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-16   22:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robin (#37)

Paul is now over 15,000 pledges for 16 Dec.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-16   22:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#39)

Paul is now over 15,000 pledges for 16 Dec.

Yippee!!!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-16   22:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: robin (#40)

It is very very important that Paul do well on the 16th. More people here on 4um need to ante up.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-16   22:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#41)

It is very very important that Paul do well on the 16th. More people here on 4um need to ante up.

It won't be so easy after the last one, but as you say we must!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-16   22:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: robin (#42)

The guaranteed alternative is Hillary Clinton.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-16   22:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Cynicom (#43)

No fair frightening people into emptying their wallets!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-16   22:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Zipporah (#38)

Youre absolutely right.. I've said it time and again.. LP is FR's anus.

Fixed to reflect the truth...

;-)

The simple expression ‘Suck, Squeeze, Bang and Blow’ is the best way to remember the working cycle of the gas turbine. — Rolls Royce training manual, 2002.

X-15  posted on  2007-11-16   23:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: X-15 (#45)

LP is FR's anus.

Fixed to reflect the truth...

;-)

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-16   23:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: robin (#44)

If they do not fear me they will receive terminal fright from Hillary. Count on it.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-16   23:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: crockett (#32)

hi crockett...it's nice to have you back.

christine  posted on  2007-11-16   23:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: robin, Cynicom (#42)

It won't be so easy after the last one, but as you say we must!

To be honest, I couldn't afford to get in on the November 5 money bomb, but I'll damn sure find a way to get in on the one in December. It's not a matter of being "easy" anymore. It might not be a lot, but it will be there on my part.

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2007-11-17   0:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: orangedog (#49)

I think the NUMBER of people who donate, however small, is very important. It shows we are many and ordinary. Remember they said the internet support was a scam driven by only a dozen people! They couldn't say that after Nov 5th.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-17   0:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: orangedog (#49)

Orange...

What counts is love of country, not amount of money sent.

We have far too many people here that rant on about the evil government but when money is mentioned, they are gone.

Proof??

This country was born of a Revolutionary War. Thirty percent did the bleeding and dying, the rest sat back like vultures waiting to join the victor.

Times change but people do not.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   0:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: robin (#50)

Remember they said the internet support was a scam driven by only a dozen people! They couldn't say that after Nov 5th.

They lost their voice and had to take up some new cry.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   0:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: orangedog (#49)

You can donate small amounts. If you can't do the $100, the site will let you do $25. I think giving the small amount helps as it increases the donar count. And if everyone gave at least $25 that would be a huge sum.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-11-17   0:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Cynicom (#52)

Yep. They now say that among his supporters are extremists. Since Ron Paul doesn't want to send $$ to foreign countries (including Israel), THE Lobby doesn't like him. ADL is very concerned. So fake.

I wonder who some of Hillary's supporters are.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-17   0:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: robin (#54)

I wonder who some of Hillary's supporters are.

No you dont. You know as well as I do.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   0:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Cynicom (#55)

But it's fun to contrast them with Ron Paul's "extremists".

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-17   0:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: robin (#54)

When the USA Today paper with Paul ad comes out. I have made deal with local news stand lady to slip a Paul card into each paper between first and second page. They see that first, throw away then see the ad.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   0:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Cynicom (#57)

Oh good. We need to reach the Americans who still read printed newspapers.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-17   0:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: robin (#58)

Cost me 5 bucks, think I will hit Christine up for half. robin the other half. hehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   0:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Cynicom (#57)

When the USA Today paper with Paul ad comes out. I have made deal with local news stand lady to slip a Paul card into each paper between first and second page. They see that first, throw away then see the ad.

Which one of the Paul cards?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-11-17   0:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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