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Title: Climate change - Is CO2 the cause?
Source: Professor Bob Carter
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI
Published: Nov 13, 2007
Author: Professor Bob Carter
Post Date: 2007-11-13 20:28:33 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 183
Comments: 11


Poster Comment:

This is a serialiazation of a videotaped lecture by Professor Bob Carter on the scientific nonsense used to justify Global Warming. I have not anything this good. Too bad he was not put on PBS. These videos are under 10 minutes each. Please watch at least one of these videos before posting a criticism.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Thanks horse, I hope many watch this. I don't think a lot of folks know we have environmental problems, but IF the world gets hotter it will lose that heat every night ever increasing rate to the 40 degree F clear night sky heat sink.

Chemical pollutants are a far greater concern, or should be, to urbanites.

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tom007  posted on  2007-11-13   21:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse (#0)

Global warming is a great IQ test. Anyone who believes in it is too dumb to be trusted with anything important, or taken seriously on any other matter.

thoughtomator  posted on  2007-11-13   22:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: thoughtomator, tom007 (#2)

In the video the professor says that we have more serious problems. He mentions air pollution. He also mentions the several billion people who are so poor they lack running water and sewers.

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Horse  posted on  2007-11-14   6:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse (#0)

If you want to know the cause of global warming, take a look at the fireball in the sky. Is our burning fossil fuel also the cause of the melting the polar caps on Mars? Did man burning fossil fuel also cause the Medieval Warm Period from 1000 to 1200 that was warmer than the current warm period? The sun has a variable output; probably the cause of ice ages and certainly the mini ice ages and warm periods such as the Medieval Warm Period.

Global warming is political nonsense by politicians and the media. Most of the variations of CO2 in the atmosphere is the result of climate change and not the cause of climate change. In other words CO2 is a lagging indicator of warming and cooling of the earth’s atmosphere. When the sun heats up the ocean, CO2 is released which increasing the CO2 in the atmosphere. When the sun is cooler, the ocean cools and absorbs more CO2. If man has any effect at all, it’s negligible.

There is no scientific theory that supports Global Warming as presently defined in the media. In fact I know of no reputable scientists that are not paid or bribed with research grants that support man causing global warming. These are the undisputed facts:

People point to Venus. However, Venus receives twice the solar radiation as the earth and the atmosphere of Venus is 90 times heaver than the Earth’s atmosphere. This is like what a submarine experiences at 3000 ft below the surface of the Earth's ocean. And the atmosphere of Venus is 97 percent CO2 while the Earth’s atmosphere is 0.03 percent CO2. Otherwise Venus has 90x0.97/0.0003 or about 300,000 times as much CO2 in their Atmosphere as the Earth. (300,000 is my calculation. Some experts state Venus has only 250,000 times as much CO2 as the earth.) In my opinion, if man could double or triple the CO2 in our atmosphere it was have almost no effect on global warming

Quote 1: The AP said: "Carbon dioxide, the gas largely blamed for global warming, has reached record-high levels in the atmosphere after growing at an accelerated pace in the past year..."

Facts: Carbon dioxide is not the major greenhouse gas (water vapor is).

Carbon dioxide accounts for about five percent of the greenhouse effect. Only about 0.03 percent (1 part in 3,000) of the Earth's atmosphere consists of carbon dioxide (nitrogen, oxygen, and argon constitute about 78 percent, 20 percent, and 0.93 percent of the atmosphere, respectively).

The sun, not a gas, is primarily to "blame" for global warming -- and plays a very key role in global temperature variations as well. For example, the planet Mars is undergoing significant global warming, lending support to many climatologists' claims that the Earth's modest warming during the past century is due primarily to a recent upsurge in solar energy. According to a September 20 NASA news release, "for three Mars summers in a row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk from the previous year's size" Because a Martian year is approximately twice as long as an Earth year, the shrinking of the Martian polar ice cap has been ongoing for at least six Earth years.

Quote 2: The AP said: "Carbon dioxide, mostly from burning of coal, gasoline and other fossil fuels, traps heat that otherwise would radiate into space."

Fact: Most of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere does not come from the burning of fossil fuels. Only about 14 percent of it does.

Quote 3: The AP said: "Global temperatures increased by about 1 degree Fahrenheit (0.6 degrees Celsius) during the 20th century, and international panels of scientists sponsored by world governments have concluded that most of the warming probably was due to greenhouse gases."

Facts: Most of 20th Century global warming occurred in the first few decades of that century, before the widespread burning of fossil fuels (and before 82 percent of the increase in atmospheric CO2 observed in the 20th Century).

If the AP is referring to the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the AP should become aware that the IPCC report itself (the part written by scientists) reached no consensus on climate change. What did reach a conclusion was an IPCC "summary for policymakers" prepared by political appointees. Most reporters quote only the summary, being either too lazy or too undereducated to understand the actual report. This does not explain, however, why reporters don't more frequently interview scientists who helped prepare it - - scientists such as IPCC participant Dr. Richard Lindzen of MIT, who says the IPCC report is typically "presented as a consensus that involves hundreds, perhaps thousands, of scientists... and none of them was asked if they agreed with anything in the report except for the one or two pages they worked on." Lindzen also draws a sharp distinction between the scientists' document and its politicized summary: "the document itself is informative; the summary is not."

DWornock  posted on  2007-11-14   9:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Horse, scorcery, christine, lodwick, txindie (#0)

Prof Carter posts on the climate forum I joined. Here is his home page.


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farmfriend  posted on  2007-11-14   20:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Horse, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)

Needs a ping.


"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
"I see the Constitution as being written precisely for one purpose -- to restrain the power of government; never to restrain the people" - Ron Paul

farmfriend  posted on  2007-11-14   20:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: thoughtomator (#2)

Global warming is a great IQ test. Anyone who believes in it is too dumb to be trusted with anything important, or taken seriously on any other matter.

Well said.

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Lod  posted on  2007-11-14   20:33:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: IndieTX (#6)

Sorry, got you name backwards on the ping.


"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
"I see the Constitution as being written precisely for one purpose -- to restrain the power of government; never to restrain the people" - Ron Paul

farmfriend  posted on  2007-11-14   20:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: andre (#8)

Your first ping.


"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
"I see the Constitution as being written precisely for one purpose -- to restrain the power of government; never to restrain the people" - Ron Paul

farmfriend  posted on  2007-11-17   15:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#9)

Well thanks farmfriend

BTW I think many high IQ-ers believe in AGW by a mechanism that is called cognitive dissonance

andre  posted on  2007-11-17   16:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: DWornock, farmfriend (#4) (Edited)

"People point to Venus."

For a rather different take on Venus, this may be interesting

andre  posted on  2007-11-17   16:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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