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Title: Feds ban grandma's angel ornament on Christmas tree....avoid Jesus in decorations
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URL Source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58596
Published: Nov 9, 2007
Author: WorldNetDaily
Post Date: 2007-11-13 21:09:51 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
Keywords: Dead Constitution
Views: 1048
Comments: 68

Feds ban grandma's angel ornament on Christmas tree

HUD orders residents to avoid Jesus in decorations

Posted: November 9, 2007

© 2007 http://WorldNetDaily.com

Federal Department of Housing and Urban Development officials have announced a ban on any decorations in HUD housing complexes that mention Jesus or represent religion for the Christmas season, and the American Family Association has responded with a petition drive to overturn the decision.

The AFA has set up a link to allow constituents to send e-mails to the HUD secretary or President Bush expressing their objections to the policy.

The issue arose at the Plant City Living Center in Plant City, Fla., where 85-year-old Mrs. Arnold was told that federal law now prohibits her from displaying anything that references religion – words, decorations and the like – in the common area of her apartment building, a HUD facility.

The grandmother told AFA she was instructed that even an angel decoration would be disallowed by the ban, which makes her think of the restrictions in Germany during World War II.

According to the center, HUD has issued a directive banning "any religious symbols or religious words associated with Christmas," which effectively prevents Mrs. Arnold from placing a small Christmas tree outside her door if it contains any religious symbols or words – "even an angel," AFA said in a special alert asking for e-mails.

A spokeswoman at the center who preferred not to give her name told WND the rules now prevent displays "like a manger, like a Christ child, any religious symbols."

"We used to have a sign outside that said, 'Jesus is the reason for the season,' but we can't anymore," she told WND. "We're all very unhappy about that."

The building has about 40 one-bedroom apartments for seniors who are at least 62 years old.

The spokeswoman said she didn't know what would be used for decorations now. "I don't know. We can probably decorate the tree, but we can't put anything on it that symbolizes Christ," she said.

"If the residents want to have a Christmas party in their community room, they cannot call it a Christmas party. The Center says HUD directs residents not to use the word 'Christmas' but to use the word 'holiday,'" the AFA advisory said.

"A Sunday School class from a church near Mrs. Arnold's apartment comes every year to host a Hanging of the Greens and Christmas Party for all the residents. She said the highlight of their Christmas Party comes at the very end of The Hanging of the Greens when someone places the angel on top of their Christmas tree. Their tradition is now banned by the federal government," the AFA said.

The family group noted the federal government has become increasingly active in banning Christianity from the public square, citing the National Park Service's efforts to conceal the words "Laus Deo," which is Latin for "Praise Be to God" at the Washington Monument, and the move by a Veterans Administration official to ban the script of a flag-folding ceremony that mentions "Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" and "Father, Son and Holy Ghost" at 100 national cemeteries.

However, "both of these were rescinded after AFA supporters sent e-mails to proper authorities," the AFA said. In the case of the Washington Monument dispute, Park Service officials told WND they got 26,000 e-mails in a morning.

WND also reported earlier this week that government officials in Fort Collins, Colo., are considering new regulations for Christmas decorations that appear to ban red and green lights because they are too religious.

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#10. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, robin, thread commenters and lurkers (#0)

All right, I'll start some fireworks - and take the flak.

WHERE in Scripture is Christmas ever pronounced as a Holy Day (holiday) in the first place? What does God have to say about it?

Isaiah 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear [them]. 15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Christmas a holiday of MAN'S creation? Furthermore, it would appear that this ban is actually upholding the 2nd Commandment:

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

That's right. Cute as they may be, Grandma's little angel ornament, and all those plastic Jesus statues adorning everybody's homes are in VIOLATION of the Second Commandment.

Why is it that we don't get all excited about the Feast of Weeks, or Feast of Trumpets? Probably 4 out of 5 Americans never even heard of those, but those I CAN find in Scripture as Holy Days set for us by the Creator...

And we wonder why the world is going to hell in a handbasket...

Isaiah 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

innieway  posted on  2007-11-14   0:57:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: innieway (#10)

WHERE in Scripture is Christmas ever pronounced as a Holy Day (holiday) in the first place? What does God have to say about it?

If Christmas is not mentioned in the Bible then where did you hear God condemn it?

Did he whisper it in your ear? Are you a member of the holy church of Bush-ear- whispered-messages?

You're as determinedly ignorant as my beloved Uncle who attempted to alarm me by stating, "do you know that the Catholic Church is the only one not mentioned in the Bible?" I didn't laugh in his face, I loved him too much.

iconoclast  posted on  2007-11-14   13:30:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: iconoclast (#35)

If Christmas is not mentioned in the Bible then where did you hear God condemn it?

Did he whisper it in your ear? Are you a member of the holy church of Bush-ear- whispered-messages?

No. God doesn't whisper things to me, and I'm not a member of any church. I suppose I could have phrased that better. I should have said "What was written about what God had to say about it?" or something to that effect.

Anyhow, the answer to the base question remains the same. See the quote from Isaiah I posted in that reply. Incidentally, what is written as to what God thinks of Easter, New Years, and all the other national holidays we celebrate is also covered in that verse. I'm sure you're aware that the word holiday is a compound word made up of the words Holy and Day. The Creator gave us the Holy Days (holidays) HE wanted us to keep, and plainly told us in Scripture what they were AND commanded us to keep them. During the Messiah's lifetime HE kept them... Our nationally observed holiday celebrations (each and every one) were proclaimed by man. If someone wants to believe that man has the authority or divine right to change God's laws and create new Holy Days to observe - all I can say is that's a choice they have to make and live with. Just seems to me like there is a whole lot of things going on in this world which none of us particularly like, and it only seems to be getting worse. You see the threads - everything from the drug resistant staph infections, to economic collapse, to moving into a police state, to you name it. That tells me what we're doing isn't working, and I'm just tossing up the idea that what we're doing may go beyond who we're electing, or how our monetary system works, or how competent our medical facilities are. Is it POSSIBLE, just POSSIBLE that what we're doing wrong is something MUCH more BASIC? Something like giving the Creator the finger in self-righteous indignation when we ignore His Holidays and celebrate OURS, no matter how well intentioned they may be?

Most people interpret ad-hominem attacks as something one resorts to when they have no good rebuttal to something in the debate... But that's OK. I'm already a self-confessed conspiracy theorist kook, so being determinedly ignorant fits right in. And if you're right and I'm ignorant and have this whole thing wrong, at least you don't have to worry about it - I can go to hell by myself.

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