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Title: Goldi Couldn't Take The Heat
Source: 4um
URL Source: [None]
Published: Nov 15, 2007
Author: Original_Intent
Post Date: 2007-11-15 03:37:33 by Original_Intent
Keywords: None
Views: 6513
Comments: 507

Confronted with discontent over her Censorship, her clear and apparent hypocrisy, and an insurgency among the more spirited Postership of Liberty Post Goldi-Lox went into severe psychodrama and conducted a Jim Robinson style purge of LP Posters who were not remaining silent in the face of her clearly hypocritical and blatant attempt to silence discussion of Ron Paul by a censorial fiat forbidding the posting of articles about Ron Paul by any of Ron Paul's numerous supporters on Liberty Post. This was done also to eliminate Ron Paul from the public view of lurkers and visitors to Liberty Post.

The Jim Robinson style of the “night of the long knives” has struck deep by eliminating some of Liberty Post's best posters of long standing. I think we can safely rename Liberty Post as “Israel First” Post and know that the loyalty of the Site Administrator is NOT first to the United States and most assuredly not Liberty. Confronted by a group of liberty minded posters calling her to account for her high handed CENSORSHIP she chose the avenue which I expected and instituted a Fraud Republic style purge of anyone who was not acquiescing silently to her censorship and pointing out the arrant hypocrisy of her actions.

While she is trying to fob this off as “necessary” for the health of the site and bandwidth usage what it actually is, is nothing more than a purge of those who not remain silent let her freely engage in Censorship contrary to the alleged rationale for Liberty Post's existence. Those who raised their voice to point out the hypocrisy and even offer compromise solutions were eliminated in one fell swoop.

Following is her Public Relations attempt to justify her silencing of dissenting views. My juxtaposed comments are in blue.

I've given you some time to settle down. Most of you have. Those few of you who have NOT will find that posting PRIVILEGES on LP have been revoked.

Translation: Those of you who would not roll over kiss my ass and remain silent in the face of obvious Stalinesque censorship have been summarily booted for no offense greater than pointing out that I am a flaming hypocrite.

It's a shame that those people felt it was more important to create disruption than to try to adhere to some new rules in order to get control of an unwieldy situation. It's impacting the site performance, bandwidth, and our costs. It was my obligation and duty to FIX the situation.

Translation: It's a shame that you people would not shut up and forced me to falsely assert you were a disruption thus forcing me take another obvious hypocritical action on top of my previous hypocritical action. I hope that all the suckers will believe my rationale that this is affecting site performance – despite the fact that the people posting are posting no more than they normally do if not less – since most of their posting is on this one thread. So, I took the necessary action to shut up those who had the flaming gall to point out that I am flaming hypocrite. I am hoping that this action will save what little credibility I have left and silence any further dissent by metaphorically chopping off the heads of those were pointing out and underscoring my dishonesty and hypocrisy.

Since I did not say Ron Paul could not be discussed, I have not removed commentary about him. I would not do that. That would be censorship. However, if you RE READ my original post on this tread, I only banned THREADS. Because too many were balling up the sidebars, and we were losing the news content.

Translation: I hope you remaining sheep will gladly toe the line and not bring up any uncomfortable references to my hypocritical actions and betrayal of all the standards of open discussion that I falsely proclaim as my standard. Also I hope that you morons will believe that by allowing you to continue to talk out of public view about Ron Paul that it really isn't censorship.

There were a lot of complaints. And the point is to make everyone or almost everyone satisfied. The Ron Paul threads had become a disruption.

Translation: Since Ron Paul refuses to suck up to the Israel Lobby and will not put Israel first I want to do what little I can to hamper discussion and the possibility that he might gain sufficient widespread popularity to threaten Israel's Welfare Check and it's ability to commit genocide at will.

This is first and foremost a NEWS DISCUSSION FORUM.

Translation: First and foremost what I say is news is news and what I don't like isn't news and I don't like Ron Paul because he is not beholden to the Israel Lobby.

It's not a cheerleading site for anyone. And no advertising is permitted.

Translation: I will not allow enthusiasm to be expressed for any candidate that does not do what the Israel Lobby tells them to do. Considerations of Liberty and Decency are totally secondary and subordinated to whatever Israel wants and to hell with liberty or the United States.

Today, I have pulled several articles - some of them contained ads.

Translation: This is a “fig leaf” comment to cover up the fact that I just purged all of the posters who were calmly and politely pointing out that I am a flaming hypocrite.

Posting of ANY future ads will cause the poster to be banned. I've stated that often. I'm just reminding you. This is nothing new.

Translation: Additional gratuitous commentary to try to cover over the fact that I am silencing anyone who dares to point out that I am violating my own alleged standards and am a traitor to the United States.

Have a good discussion...and that includes Ron Paul. But NO threads please.

Translation: Anyone who dares to post something not in keeping with my hypocritical standards based upon a hidden agenda, Israel First, will be silenced.

I don't want to have to ban anyone else.

Translation: This is a warning you cretins do not dare to try to hold me accountable to my own professed standards. I do not want to hear anything else about that damned Ron Paul or his damned non-interventionist America Centric American Foreign Policy. It's Israel First! Get It!

==== Note: I realize that every time I make one of these decisions, some of you will find it intolerable, and leave. I would like you to stay...but you have to follow your heart, and if one forum doesn't fit you, perhaps another one will. I will only wish you good luck in your cyber travels, and maybe you'll pass this way again.

Translation: I realize some of you are intelligent enough to know that I am lying through my teeth and am a flaming hypocrite who just silenced a big embarassment by banning everyone who would not let the matter of high handed censorship rest. I don't really want you real Conservatives and Libertarians to stay because sooner or later you are going to oppose the primary purpose of this forum which is CONTROLLED Opposition. Nevertheless, I don't want my site to drop to a ranking below ten million overnight so some of you can stay as long as you don't really expect me to live up to the standards I claim.

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#92. To: Miraclerose (#90)

At the same time, purging them from Libertypost will do a lot to help stop the spread of the silly notions of freedom, liberty and the "founding father" (LOL!).

OMG...BWAHAHAHAHAHAA! Oh man. Spoof or not, this poster is the best entertainment I've seen in a long time!

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-11-15   15:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: christine (#22)

LOL. your blue commentary is priceless. Goldi's loss is our gain.

angle, what happened at FR or LP will NEVER happen here. you can take that to the bank.

Thank you for the kind words - glad you enjoy the humor in it.

I imagine it would piss Goldi off even more if she knew that, not only am I unfazed by her action, I am belly laughing in her petulant pouty face.

...what happened at FR or LP will NEVER happen here. you can take that to the bank.

I never expected it would - the entire environment over here is different and feels freer. It lacks that piquantly Stalinesque "aroma" of El Pee.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   15:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: robin (#91)

Welcome to 4!

Thank You!

Miraclerose  posted on  2007-11-15   15:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine, Original_Intent (#22)

LOL. your blue commentary is priceless. Goldi's loss is our gain.

It really is.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   15:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Vitamin Z (#92)

OMG...BWAHAHAHAHAHAA! Oh man. Spoof or not, this poster is the best entertainment I've seen in a long time!

LOL!!!

But the sad part is anyone with a name like Bush Fan probably really believes this stuff! He really believes in his freedom and liberty to silence anyone who does not follow his dictatorship.

Miraclerose  posted on  2007-11-15   15:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Sorry your gone from LP. I am glad to see you here though!

Miraclerose  posted on  2007-11-15   15:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Miraclerose (#96)

Bush Fan may not believe it -- he may just be pulling our legs -- but I have a feeling Bush himself does believe it.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-15   15:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Big Meanie (#87)

Fine. But the schmucks will still be over there, and you won't be able to challenge their BS. What good are you then? They cheer everytime they get rid of one of you.

Well, I think this time it actually served a purpose in that it demonstrated to everyone not a "fixed idea" 'bot that there was manipulation going on and that Goldi's true motives were not the ones she gave for public PR consumption.

We'll have to see how things play out but the repercussions of her actions have not yet played out in full.

As I pointed out a while back there has been NO fund raiser on LP for a good 6 months to a year. Yet the bills are getting paid. Goldi whined in her mea culpa for imposing censorship that she had paid the bandwidth and hosting fees out of her own pocket - while being out of work and looking for a job.

There is a deeper, and more manipulative game, now being played on El Pee and it is not at all benign. Anything which runs counter that and cuts Goldi's credibility helps in countering that. This stand on principle made by a few people, including moi', did much to undercut her credibility and made apparent to all but the really stupid that she was not being honest.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   15:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Miraclerose (#97)

Sorry your gone from LP. I am glad to see you here though!

Thanks, but no need to be sorry - it came as no surprise. I was not going to compromise my principles and was not going to let Goldi have her "fig leaf" to cover for her action to suppress political views she opposes.

I saw your breakdown of the spammers versus the Paul Supporters. Good Show!

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   15:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Big Meanie, Original_Intent (#87)

Fine. But the schmucks will still be over there, and you won't be able to challenge their BS. What good are you then? They cheer everytime they get rid of one of you.

They can be challenged from here, without the trolls and paid shills interrupting the flow of thought.

There's no reaching the schmucks from any forum.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   15:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Original_Intent, Fred Mertz (#0)

OI, I got busted on LP. All I did was post a thread in the LP Townhall section entitled "Time for civil disobedience on LP: He Who Must Not Be Named" and simply wrote "discuss" after the previous civil disobedience thread was yanked. Fred Mertz and Veritas replied to my thread but I didn't get to read their response, I was knifed pretty quick :-)

I don't think I had the reputation as being that hard-core a Ron Paul fan, I didn't even post in very many Ron Paul threads.....

X-15  posted on  2007-11-15   15:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: X-15 (#102)

How completely unfair and unwarranted! Welcome to 4! You'll find many ex-LPers here.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   15:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Original_Intent (#100)

Goldi banned me last night.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-11-15   15:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: robin (#103)

Thank you for the welcome robin :)

My post was intended to be a humorous follow-up to the civil disobedience thread that was yanked, "somebody" wasn't in a good mood :-|

X-15  posted on  2007-11-15   15:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Original_Intent, robin (#99)

"There is a deeper, and more manipulative game, now being played on El Pee and it is not at all benign...."

That's right, but who's going to be left over there to point it out? They leave themselves wide open all the time. There's no reason to make kamikaze attacks.

Big Meanie  posted on  2007-11-15   15:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: X-15, TwentyTwelve (#102)

Goldi is off her rocker. She keeps the most annoying posters at elPee and bans you two. Welcome to 4um!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-11-15   15:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: X-15 (#105)

Some people have no sense of humor. ;P Not to worry, we have an overflowing abundance of humor over here; and all kinds.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   15:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: X-15, TwentyTwelve, miraclerose, Big Meanie (#102)

welcome! welcome! so happy to have y'all here. Big Meanie, missed you too. great to see you.

christine  posted on  2007-11-15   15:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Fred Mertz (#107)

Welcome to 4um!

Thanks.

NO RON PAUL ARTICLES ARE TO BE POSTED HERE AT ALL. - Goldi

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-11-15   15:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Original_Intent (#99) (Edited)

There is a deeper, and more manipulative game, now being played on El Pee and it is not at all benign. Anything which runs counter that and cuts Goldi's credibility helps in countering that. This stand on principle made by a few people, including moi', did much to undercut her credibility and made apparent to all but the really stupid that she was not being honest.

Remember how quickly I was banned for standing up to Byteshredder's continuous spamming of ElPee with his lame images? After a series of exchanges, he had posted a cartoon image of Ahmadinejad with an Israeli flag in front of his face, and I simply asked him if that was supposed to indicate that Ahmadinejad is a puppet of Israel.

That was my last post on ElPee, as I was immediately banned without explanation.

I think we can pretty much see who is pulling Goldi's strings.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-15   15:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: TwentyTwelve (#110)

HEY 2012, welcome to 4um!!!


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-15   15:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Big Meanie (#106)

I watched Goldi ban aristeides for absolutely no reason at all. My guess is he was just too effective. She never gave a reason.

So kamikaze or not, if she (or whoever) decides to, even without good (or bad) cause or ever explaining why; you can be banned.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   15:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: christine (#109)

welcome! welcome! so happy to have y'all here.

Thanks for the warm welcome christine.

NO RON PAUL ARTICLES ARE TO BE POSTED HERE AT ALL. - Goldi

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-11-15   16:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: TwentyTwelve (#110)

NO RON PAUL ARTICLES ARE TO BE POSTED HERE AT ALL. - Goldi

Pathetic!

Welcome to 4!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   16:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: FormerLurker (#71)

It's good to see you guys stood up to the old witch. She must be off her meds again, and/or she must have gotten a call from the Tel Aviv office to quash discussion of Ron Paul and smite his supporters.

I suspect, but cannot prove, that she has been given "marching orders" by someone in the "Hasbarfa" chain of command. Her actions were absolutely transparent and her motivations apparent to anyone who knew enough of her history. I think that is what made her so uncomfortable on that final thread was that I was carefully pointing out those motivations. The one thing a liar can't stand is someone pointing out the truth.

While not honest enough to look for an equitable way out she is bright enough, barely, to know that she was on the losing end of the argument and so had to use the "Nuclear Option" and hit the ban button to rid herself of those pesky insurgents.

This site is becoming more and more popular, and will probably eclipse ElPee in the not so distant future, ...

I would expect you are correct, and this current dust-up will accelerate that. Already there are couple of non-bannees who seem to have opened new accounts here.

especially if Goldi continues to toss people overboard that dare attempt to post an article about the next president of the United States, Ron Paul..

Goldi is in a real bind on Ron Paul - he supports everything she has ever claimed to support EXCEPT being a suck-up to the Israel Lobby. So, the connection is inevitable to anyone with 3 functioning brain cells. The 'bot Police on El Pee may try to continue to shout down and smear anyone pointing this out but "the cat is out of the bag" now, and there is no putting him back in. He's no pussy.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   16:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: TwentyTwelve (#114)

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

UP THE REVOLUTION!

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   16:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: wbales, GlobalWarmest (#7)

omygosh, that is sooooo good. GlobalWarmest is a clever moniker too.

christine  posted on  2007-11-15   16:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: FormerLurker (#112)

HEY 2012, welcome to 4um!!!

Thanks.

How have you been?

You would not believe what has happened over at LP.

NO RON PAUL ARTICLES ARE TO BE POSTED HERE AT ALL. - Goldi

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-11-15   16:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: christine (#109)

Thank you for the welcome christine :)

X-15  posted on  2007-11-15   16:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#116)

It's good to see you guys stood up to the old witch. She must be off her meds again, and/or she must have gotten a call from the Tel Aviv office to quash discussion of Ron Paul and smite his supporters.

I suspect, but cannot prove, that she has been given "marching orders" by someone in the "Hasbarfa" chain of command.

The setup and excuse for banning all Ron Paul articles is so paper thin, I must agree.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   16:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Original_Intent (#116)

While not honest enough to look for an equitable way out she is bright enough, barely, to know that she was on the losing end of the argument and so had to use the "Nuclear Option" and hit the ban button to rid herself of those pesky insurgents.

She's no different than RimJob over at FraudRepublic, where the ONLY way people like them can "win" an argument is to silence the voice of the opposition. It's worked for many a tyrant over the eons of time, and it is the method of choice for those so predisposed.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-15   16:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Original_Intent (#117)

UP THE REVOLUTION!

Hello again.

Have you checked out LP today?

Many anti-Ron Paul articles were posted today.

The truth about Goldi has been exposed.

NO RON PAUL ARTICLES ARE TO BE POSTED HERE AT ALL. - Goldi

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-11-15   16:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Big Meanie, TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker (#106)

"There is a deeper, and more manipulative game, now being played on El Pee and it is not at all benign...."

That's right, but who's going to be left over there to point it out? They leave themselves wide open all the time. There's no reason to make kamikaze attacks.

Actually, all modesty aside, I think Thermopylae is a better metaphor for what occurred.

There are times when you MUST make a stand regardless of whether the forgone outcome is desired or not.

Sometimes the actions of a few can stir the actions of many. That is why Goldi and her handlers fear Ron Paul and his supporters so much. It began small and is growing into a tidal swell which threatens to engulf their dark plans.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   16:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: TwentyTwelve (#119)

How have you been?

I've been ok. It's good not to battle with bots, and is a welcome break from all the stress.....

You would not believe what has happened over at LP.

Yes I can. I saw it coming back when she banned discussion of 9/11, and when she first proclaimed RP articles were to be limited to 2 per day.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-15   16:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Original_Intent (#116)

I never understood her opposition to the Constitution Party, either.

I think the fallout will come to another head within a week, then look for a blow-out of epic proportions.

X-15  posted on  2007-11-15   16:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: TwentyTwelve (#123)

No, I haven't been over to observe the ongoing Train Wreck. The cat is out of the bag though. El Pee is going to go down in flames.

Congratulations on a job well done.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   16:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: X-15 (#126)

Welcome to 4um X-15.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-15   16:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: FormerLurker (#125)

You would not believe what has happened over at LP.

Yes I can. I saw it coming back when she banned discussion of 9/11, and when she first proclaimed RP articles were to be limited to 2 per day.

LP has been exposed.

It will soon self-destruct.

NO RON PAUL ARTICLES ARE TO BE POSTED HERE AT ALL. - Goldi

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-11-15   16:11:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, X-15 (#127)

Have you guys noticed all the anti-Paul articles being posted by the spammers today, and Goldi isn't doing anything at all about them?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-15   16:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: X-15 (#126)

I never understood her opposition to the Constitution Party, either.

I think the fallout will come to another head within a week, then look for a blow-out of epic proportions.

I think you are likely right. She has in one fell swoop destroyed El Pee as a viable discussion forum.

It may not take a week. From what 2012 reports, which I haven't looked at yet, either she is going to have start banning her 'botbuddies or the rotten fish smell will become apparent even to the sensory deprived.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   16:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: TwentyTwelve (#123)

Many anti-Ron Paul articles were posted today.

Oops, didn't see that post. Yep, I'm sure MANY have noticed that..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-15   16:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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