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Title: Goldi Couldn't Take The Heat
Source: 4um
URL Source: [None]
Published: Nov 15, 2007
Author: Original_Intent
Post Date: 2007-11-15 03:37:33 by Original_Intent
Keywords: None
Views: 8845
Comments: 507

Confronted with discontent over her Censorship, her clear and apparent hypocrisy, and an insurgency among the more spirited Postership of Liberty Post Goldi-Lox went into severe psychodrama and conducted a Jim Robinson style purge of LP Posters who were not remaining silent in the face of her clearly hypocritical and blatant attempt to silence discussion of Ron Paul by a censorial fiat forbidding the posting of articles about Ron Paul by any of Ron Paul's numerous supporters on Liberty Post. This was done also to eliminate Ron Paul from the public view of lurkers and visitors to Liberty Post.

The Jim Robinson style of the “night of the long knives” has struck deep by eliminating some of Liberty Post's best posters of long standing. I think we can safely rename Liberty Post as “Israel First” Post and know that the loyalty of the Site Administrator is NOT first to the United States and most assuredly not Liberty. Confronted by a group of liberty minded posters calling her to account for her high handed CENSORSHIP she chose the avenue which I expected and instituted a Fraud Republic style purge of anyone who was not acquiescing silently to her censorship and pointing out the arrant hypocrisy of her actions.

While she is trying to fob this off as “necessary” for the health of the site and bandwidth usage what it actually is, is nothing more than a purge of those who not remain silent let her freely engage in Censorship contrary to the alleged rationale for Liberty Post's existence. Those who raised their voice to point out the hypocrisy and even offer compromise solutions were eliminated in one fell swoop.

Following is her Public Relations attempt to justify her silencing of dissenting views. My juxtaposed comments are in blue.

I've given you some time to settle down. Most of you have. Those few of you who have NOT will find that posting PRIVILEGES on LP have been revoked.

Translation: Those of you who would not roll over kiss my ass and remain silent in the face of obvious Stalinesque censorship have been summarily booted for no offense greater than pointing out that I am a flaming hypocrite.

It's a shame that those people felt it was more important to create disruption than to try to adhere to some new rules in order to get control of an unwieldy situation. It's impacting the site performance, bandwidth, and our costs. It was my obligation and duty to FIX the situation.

Translation: It's a shame that you people would not shut up and forced me to falsely assert you were a disruption thus forcing me take another obvious hypocritical action on top of my previous hypocritical action. I hope that all the suckers will believe my rationale that this is affecting site performance – despite the fact that the people posting are posting no more than they normally do if not less – since most of their posting is on this one thread. So, I took the necessary action to shut up those who had the flaming gall to point out that I am flaming hypocrite. I am hoping that this action will save what little credibility I have left and silence any further dissent by metaphorically chopping off the heads of those were pointing out and underscoring my dishonesty and hypocrisy.

Since I did not say Ron Paul could not be discussed, I have not removed commentary about him. I would not do that. That would be censorship. However, if you RE READ my original post on this tread, I only banned THREADS. Because too many were balling up the sidebars, and we were losing the news content.

Translation: I hope you remaining sheep will gladly toe the line and not bring up any uncomfortable references to my hypocritical actions and betrayal of all the standards of open discussion that I falsely proclaim as my standard. Also I hope that you morons will believe that by allowing you to continue to talk out of public view about Ron Paul that it really isn't censorship.

There were a lot of complaints. And the point is to make everyone or almost everyone satisfied. The Ron Paul threads had become a disruption.

Translation: Since Ron Paul refuses to suck up to the Israel Lobby and will not put Israel first I want to do what little I can to hamper discussion and the possibility that he might gain sufficient widespread popularity to threaten Israel's Welfare Check and it's ability to commit genocide at will.

This is first and foremost a NEWS DISCUSSION FORUM.

Translation: First and foremost what I say is news is news and what I don't like isn't news and I don't like Ron Paul because he is not beholden to the Israel Lobby.

It's not a cheerleading site for anyone. And no advertising is permitted.

Translation: I will not allow enthusiasm to be expressed for any candidate that does not do what the Israel Lobby tells them to do. Considerations of Liberty and Decency are totally secondary and subordinated to whatever Israel wants and to hell with liberty or the United States.

Today, I have pulled several articles - some of them contained ads.

Translation: This is a “fig leaf” comment to cover up the fact that I just purged all of the posters who were calmly and politely pointing out that I am a flaming hypocrite.

Posting of ANY future ads will cause the poster to be banned. I've stated that often. I'm just reminding you. This is nothing new.

Translation: Additional gratuitous commentary to try to cover over the fact that I am silencing anyone who dares to point out that I am violating my own alleged standards and am a traitor to the United States.

Have a good discussion...and that includes Ron Paul. But NO threads please.

Translation: Anyone who dares to post something not in keeping with my hypocritical standards based upon a hidden agenda, Israel First, will be silenced.

I don't want to have to ban anyone else.

Translation: This is a warning you cretins do not dare to try to hold me accountable to my own professed standards. I do not want to hear anything else about that damned Ron Paul or his damned non-interventionist America Centric American Foreign Policy. It's Israel First! Get It!

==== Note: I realize that every time I make one of these decisions, some of you will find it intolerable, and leave. I would like you to stay...but you have to follow your heart, and if one forum doesn't fit you, perhaps another one will. I will only wish you good luck in your cyber travels, and maybe you'll pass this way again.

Translation: I realize some of you are intelligent enough to know that I am lying through my teeth and am a flaming hypocrite who just silenced a big embarassment by banning everyone who would not let the matter of high handed censorship rest. I don't really want you real Conservatives and Libertarians to stay because sooner or later you are going to oppose the primary purpose of this forum which is CONTROLLED Opposition. Nevertheless, I don't want my site to drop to a ranking below ten million overnight so some of you can stay as long as you don't really expect me to live up to the standards I claim.

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#67. To: ghostdogtxn (#62) (Edited)

4. To: Madeye Moody, Goldi-Lox (#2)

Shoot the cop. See Goldi-Lox, this is an example of the malcontent of these Paultards and their complete disrespect and lack of reverance for authority. I'm telling you, once the domestic terrorism laws are passed, people like this are going down. Best purge them now and keep only those who love and appreciate their government, to include the heroes in law enforcement.,

Madeye Moody you have been reported to the appropriate authorities. With any luck you will be watched carefully. I'm betting odds you're a criminal because law-abiding Americans have no reason to hate the hard working men and women in law enforcement. Now that they will be watching you your criminal days are nearing an end!

Bush Fan posted on 2007-11-15 07:54:09 ET Reply Trace

Bush Fan sure is feeling his/her oats to be so openly playing the 'I am a snitch to law enforcement' cards.

(from http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=207023&Disp=16#C4)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-11-15   11:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Ferret Mike (#67)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-11-15   11:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#42)

I think we have one of those baiter posters who jumped off the rat infested ship known as LP.

yeah, but he's such a goofy bot, he's merely short term entertainment with each of his incarnations.

christine  posted on  2007-11-15   11:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Original_Intent (#1)

She was never concerned about threads which were disparaging toward certain ethnic groups from filling up the news bar or creating a disruption.

Alan Chapman  posted on  2007-11-15   11:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Original_Intent (#3) (Edited)

I have joined you among the few, the proud, the banned from Liberty Post.

Hi OI, I've been following all the excitement over at ElPee.org recently.

It's good to see you guys stood up to the old witch. She must be off her meds again, and/or she must have gotten a call from the Tel Aviv office to quash discussion of Ron Paul and smite his supporters.

Oh well, nice to see you found your way back here, where you don't have to worry about censorship. This site is becoming more and more popular, and will probably eclipse ElPee in the not so distant future, especially if Goldi continues to toss people overboard that dare attempt to post an article about the next president of the United States, Ron Paul..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-15   11:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: ghostdogtxn (#65)

He's the ONLY candidate who isn't beholden to the MIC/ZIO/ENRG folks, and he scares the hell out of them.

Well, there's also Kucinich and Gravel, but they have much less chance of getting anywhere.

In any event, it was interesting how they eliminated Gravel from the debates right after that interview on the PBS News Hour where he accused AIPAC of being behind the march to war with Iran.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-15   11:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Fred Mertz (#41)

It's obvious that BushFan is trolling ElPee. LOL


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-15   11:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: aristeides (#72)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-11-15   11:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#31)

Why are the politics of Liberty Post so fucking important to THIS website?

"It's a small world after all. It's a small world after all. It's a small world after all, it's a small world after all." (Nice ride at Disney for the kids, BTW.)

Says a lot, IMO.

I never looked back, myself. I think they're wired different.

Experts attribute lower investment rates to poor instruction on financial topics in public schools and misconceptions about the risk of stocks within parts of the black community. Employers also have been urged to tailor their messages on retirement savings to account for what some black and Latino executives say are important cultural differences.

Tauzero  posted on  2007-11-15   11:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Fred Mertz (#41)

1. Fasttalker 2. Buckeye 3. Strenchedmind 4. Pern 5. bluedogtxn 6. duckhunter

Wow. #6! I'm flattered. I'm not banned as of right now though.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-15   11:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#31)

Why are the politics of Liberty Post so fucking important to THIS website?

All it does is make THIS site look like another Clown Posse website, or worse.

I comprehend, empathize and sympathize with what you say.

But, hey, its fun and entertaining (to some).

There is, also and in any case, a foundation of relevent political discourse/commentary in the exercise.

Register to vote for Ron Paul NOW.

wbales  posted on  2007-11-15   11:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: duckhunter (#76)

I'm not banned as of right now though.

In the interest of your future mental health, you should ban yourself.

There is no charge for this advice.

Register to vote for Ron Paul NOW.

wbales  posted on  2007-11-15   11:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: wbales (#78)

In the interest of your future mental health, you should ban yourself.

I read this site for information. I mostly lurk because, with a few notable exception, I agree with most of the folks here and the posted articles are great.

I read LP for entertainment and to argue with those I disagree with. I take none of it seriously enough to cause me ill effects in either situation.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-15   12:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: longnose gar (#34)

The Paultard articles still exist and still continue to be posted.

Psst! Hey, twinkboy...yeah...you in the corner with your thumb up your butt.

There is a reason for that. Come closer and I'll tell you.

No, closer...

That's right.

It won't hurt...much.

Just a little bit more...

ITS BECAUSE THERE IS REAL SUPPORT FOR PAUL!

Now, that wasn't so bad....in time, you'll learn to think for yourself too.

Come back tomorrow for more freedom-shock therapy.

In the meantime, may your chains clink lightly and your masters smile at you often.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2007-11-15   12:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: bluedogtxn (#43)

That said, I have no animosity against Jews just for being Jewish.

I could count on one hand those I've met during my lifetime that don't put their homeland first before America. They never have a problem w/the goy as long as they know their place and agree with their odd political proclivities. That said, I buy Chinese food from Chinamen, pizza from Italians and lawyerly advice from Tribesmen. Mamma didn’t raise a shmuck :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-15   12:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Jethro Tull (#81)

I get the sense that most American Jews are not really all that concerned with Israel. In fact, they seem annoyed that someone might rock their pretty boats.

They have it good here, nepotism is at its flowery peak for them; most Jews in America are living quite well. For the ZioCrazies to awaken the ugly specter of antisemitism and possibly spoil their fun in some way, they find disconcerting. Not enough to actually say or do anything about it of course. Not yet.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   13:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: robin (#82)

I really think being born and raised in NYC offered me a special perspective to THEM. Even my wife, a full blown sheeple and truly a sweet person, cringes at THEIR arrogance. The above picture is from today's NY Post. Despite Spitzer's failed attempt to shove DLs into the pockets of illegals, life is good. He (they) need street justice ASAP.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-15   13:42:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#83)

In my L.A. suburb, my best friend in elementary school was a rabbi's daughter. Every classroom I was in from 1st grade through college always included about a dozen Jews.
Later I picked up on some arrogance, after they became more financially successful and moved to a better neighborhood. When they were new to the neighborhood and just as poor, it was different. Financial standing is everything to them.
I see the same thing, only more so, now with most Asians in Orange county; very humble while it suits them in the beginning, then only to people economically above them. They also usually choose to live in segregated neighborhoods.
This is not as true of the Latinos, and perhaps not so true of the Vietnamese. Whites do not pay the kind of tribute to financial success that these other groups do. I'm guessing it's cultural. We tend to care how someone made their money, many immigrants only care that someone has money.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   14:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Fred Mertz (#41)

15. hondo68TTOR

I see that I've been promoted to "Domestic Terrorist". I'm honored to be in such company.

Lock and load, and don't forget to BLOAT!

hondo68  posted on  2007-11-15   14:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: hondo68 (#85)

Ron Paul and other like minded militants have been excited by the suicidal hijackers of Al Qaeda, but the American public isn’t buying into his call for criminal violence. The Feds are clamping down with a broad definition of a domestic terrorist and nutters from the Republic of Texas, and other offshoot groups (see 4dumb), will soon see even more restrictions coming down the pike. They must be taken out before they do a McVeigh.

Aaron posted on 2007-11-15 14:08:10 ET Reply Trace

Oh geez, looks like this guy and his colleagues think it's time for another attack on American soil. I wonder if they are in the planning stages yet?

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-11-15   14:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Original_Intent (#3)

"I have joined you among the few, the proud, the banned from Liberty Post."

Fine. But the schmucks will still be over there, and you won't be able to challenge their BS. What good are you then? They cheer everytime they get rid of one of you.

Big Meanie  posted on  2007-11-15   14:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: duckhunter (#76)

Wow. #6! I'm flattered. I'm not banned as of right now though.

Sorry but I just went down the list of posters! That was how you got to be number 6.

But heck if I knew you would be flattered I would have put you at number 1!!!

Miraclerose  posted on  2007-11-15   14:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: wbales (#7)

LOL!

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   15:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: wbales (#11)

Check out this post by Bush Fan -- at the end -- "proper repsect......"

"...

If I may be bold enough to suggest, this list of pro-Ron Paul people should be immedietely purged from the rolls of Libertypost. They are troublemakers who will continue to bring you nothing but heartburn. With the new domestic terrorist laws the House just passed and the Senate will soon pass, the below named people will be watched and you just don't need the danger of being associated with them. At the same time, purging them from Libertypost will do a lot to help stop the spread of the silly notions of freedom, liberty and the "founding father" (LOL!). Life in the United States changed on 911 and while most good Americans understand this, the malcontents listed below do not and will not.

At the same time, this Paultard named Miraclerose also drew up a list of anti- Paultards. These are the sort that you need to keep on LP. They show the proper respect to the United States government and Israel and understand than we are at was and the number one priority is to win that war, "freedom and liberty" be damned.

..."

Unbelievable that this person would so openly spread his attempt to silence people into compliance with his views. And then attempt to use scare tactics. It only shows why we need someone like Ron Paul to stop people like this from coming into power.

Miraclerose  posted on  2007-11-15   15:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Miraclerose (#90)

It only shows why we need someone like Ron Paul to stop people like this from coming into power.

Welcome to 4!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   15:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Miraclerose (#90)

At the same time, purging them from Libertypost will do a lot to help stop the spread of the silly notions of freedom, liberty and the "founding father" (LOL!).

OMG...BWAHAHAHAHAHAA! Oh man. Spoof or not, this poster is the best entertainment I've seen in a long time!

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-11-15   15:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: christine (#22)

LOL. your blue commentary is priceless. Goldi's loss is our gain.

angle, what happened at FR or LP will NEVER happen here. you can take that to the bank.

Thank you for the kind words - glad you enjoy the humor in it.

I imagine it would piss Goldi off even more if she knew that, not only am I unfazed by her action, I am belly laughing in her petulant pouty face.

...what happened at FR or LP will NEVER happen here. you can take that to the bank.

I never expected it would - the entire environment over here is different and feels freer. It lacks that piquantly Stalinesque "aroma" of El Pee.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   15:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: robin (#91)

Welcome to 4!

Thank You!

Miraclerose  posted on  2007-11-15   15:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine, Original_Intent (#22)

LOL. your blue commentary is priceless. Goldi's loss is our gain.

It really is.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   15:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Vitamin Z (#92)

OMG...BWAHAHAHAHAHAA! Oh man. Spoof or not, this poster is the best entertainment I've seen in a long time!

LOL!!!

But the sad part is anyone with a name like Bush Fan probably really believes this stuff! He really believes in his freedom and liberty to silence anyone who does not follow his dictatorship.

Miraclerose  posted on  2007-11-15   15:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Sorry your gone from LP. I am glad to see you here though!

Miraclerose  posted on  2007-11-15   15:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Miraclerose (#96)

Bush Fan may not believe it -- he may just be pulling our legs -- but I have a feeling Bush himself does believe it.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-15   15:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Big Meanie (#87)

Fine. But the schmucks will still be over there, and you won't be able to challenge their BS. What good are you then? They cheer everytime they get rid of one of you.

Well, I think this time it actually served a purpose in that it demonstrated to everyone not a "fixed idea" 'bot that there was manipulation going on and that Goldi's true motives were not the ones she gave for public PR consumption.

We'll have to see how things play out but the repercussions of her actions have not yet played out in full.

As I pointed out a while back there has been NO fund raiser on LP for a good 6 months to a year. Yet the bills are getting paid. Goldi whined in her mea culpa for imposing censorship that she had paid the bandwidth and hosting fees out of her own pocket - while being out of work and looking for a job.

There is a deeper, and more manipulative game, now being played on El Pee and it is not at all benign. Anything which runs counter that and cuts Goldi's credibility helps in countering that. This stand on principle made by a few people, including moi', did much to undercut her credibility and made apparent to all but the really stupid that she was not being honest.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   15:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Miraclerose (#97)

Sorry your gone from LP. I am glad to see you here though!

Thanks, but no need to be sorry - it came as no surprise. I was not going to compromise my principles and was not going to let Goldi have her "fig leaf" to cover for her action to suppress political views she opposes.

I saw your breakdown of the spammers versus the Paul Supporters. Good Show!

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-15   15:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Big Meanie, Original_Intent (#87)

Fine. But the schmucks will still be over there, and you won't be able to challenge their BS. What good are you then? They cheer everytime they get rid of one of you.

They can be challenged from here, without the trolls and paid shills interrupting the flow of thought.

There's no reaching the schmucks from any forum.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   15:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Original_Intent, Fred Mertz (#0)

OI, I got busted on LP. All I did was post a thread in the LP Townhall section entitled "Time for civil disobedience on LP: He Who Must Not Be Named" and simply wrote "discuss" after the previous civil disobedience thread was yanked. Fred Mertz and Veritas replied to my thread but I didn't get to read their response, I was knifed pretty quick :-)

I don't think I had the reputation as being that hard-core a Ron Paul fan, I didn't even post in very many Ron Paul threads.....

X-15  posted on  2007-11-15   15:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: X-15 (#102)

How completely unfair and unwarranted! Welcome to 4! You'll find many ex-LPers here.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-15   15:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Original_Intent (#100)

Goldi banned me last night.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-11-15   15:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: robin (#103)

Thank you for the welcome robin :)

My post was intended to be a humorous follow-up to the civil disobedience thread that was yanked, "somebody" wasn't in a good mood :-|

X-15  posted on  2007-11-15   15:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Original_Intent, robin (#99)

"There is a deeper, and more manipulative game, now being played on El Pee and it is not at all benign...."

That's right, but who's going to be left over there to point it out? They leave themselves wide open all the time. There's no reason to make kamikaze attacks.

Big Meanie  posted on  2007-11-15   15:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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