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Title: Lou Dobbs "Seriously Contemplating" Presidential Bid
Source: Wall Street Journal Online
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/ ... bs-seriously-cont_n_72867.html
Published: Nov 16, 2007
Author: Wall Street Journal Online
Post Date: 2007-11-16 10:12:09 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 465
Comments: 20

Lou Dobbs for President? Don't laugh. After months of telling reporters that he "absolutely" would not consider leaving his highly-rated CNN show in which he crusades against free trade and illegal immigration, Mr. Dobbs posted a commentary on his Web site last week predicting a surprise new presidential candidate in 2008. The mystery candidate is an "independent populist . . . who understands the genius of this country lies in the hearts and minds of its people and not in the prerogatives and power of its elites."

Friends of Mr. Dobbs say he is seriously contemplating a race for the first time, although it's still unlikely. They spin a scenario under which the acerbic commentator would parachute into the race if Michael Bloomberg, the New York billionaire and favorite of East Coast elites, enters the field as an independent.

With Hillary Clinton continuing to score badly in polls in the categories of honesty and integrity, and with the public's many doubts about Rudy Giuliani and other GOP contenders, Mr. Bloomberg may well see an opportunity to roil the political waters by entering the race late. If so, Mr. Dobbs then sees a niche for a "fourth-party" candidate who could paint the three other contenders as completely out of touch.

His playbook would be similar to that of Ross Perot in 1992, who didn't enter the presidential race until the major parties began holding their primaries but quickly shot up to 25% in many polls.

Similarly, Mr. Dobbs could leverage his name ID and popularity to secure a place on 50 state ballots and generate a mountain of free publicity.

"No one, seemingly, is listening to the average-but-angry voter," notes the Boston Phoenix. "So an independent populist-style candidacy could fill a huge vacuum." Mr. Dobbs, who has written best-selling books deploring the government's "war on the middle class," would be a natural fit in this campaign playing the role of the anchorman in the 1970s movie "Network," who bellowed, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore."

Mr. Dobbs himself once told me that "Q" ratings that measure the popularity of media personalities found that no other media figure was more respected across the board by Democrats, Republicans and Independents. He claimed he was striking a chord with the broad middle class that transcended ideology. I think his ratings may also have something to do with picking a couple of hot-button issues that are easily demagogued, but don't be surprised if you hear more rumors about a Dobbs candidacy. Even if he doesn't enter the race, any such discussion would serve to boost his ratings.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Lou Dobbs is such a con man. For years, he was just a blue blood Rockefeller Republican making mediocre economic commentary. Eventually unable to successfully compete with the Neil Cavutos out there, he had to redefine himself. So he is posing as a xenophobic, bigoted populist taking up the causes of the "little" man.

And of course the same people who believe Bush and the Joos blew up the WTCs, that Bush will form an NAU, or that Ron Paul is a serious Presidential candidate eat it up.

longnose gar  posted on  2007-11-16   10:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Lou would really stir the pot and create some excitement.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-11-16   10:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: longnose gar (#1)

And of course the same people who believe Bush and the Joos blew up the WTCs, that Bush will form an NAU, or that Ron Paul is a serious Presidential candidate eat it up.

Always good to know where we are making progress, thanks!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-16   10:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

get a grip, Lou.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-16   10:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

I wonder if this is one of the ways they're thinking of siphoning support from Ron Paul.

Well, Thom Hartmann was impressed by Lou Dobbs's new book, so perhaps the man is serious.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-16   11:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: longnose gar (#1)

liar

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liar

Main Entry:
li·ar Listen to the pronunciation of liar
Pronunciation:
Èl+(-Y)r

Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Old English logere, from logan to lie — more at lie

Date:
before 12th century
: a person who tells lies

Vicente Fox admits it: North American Union

"What WE proposed together, President Bush and myself..."

What North American Union?

Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!

FOH  posted on  2007-11-16   11:16:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#5)

On the outside chance that Ron Paul does NOT win the Republicrat nomination and with Ron Paul already ruling out a run outside of the establishment - who does that leave? Hitlery or some RINO?

What North American Union?

Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!

FOH  posted on  2007-11-16   11:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FOH (#7)

I wouldn't say that any of Ron Paul's statements that I've seen and heard denying any intention to run third-party have definitively ruled out the possibility.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-16   11:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: aristeides (#8)

Based on my conversations with our State Ron Paul 2008 coordinator, Ron Paul has unequivocally and without ambiguity declared that he will NOT run for POTUS anywhere but in the Republican Party...

What North American Union?

Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!

FOH  posted on  2007-11-16   11:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FOH (#9)

Well, with my own ears I heard him say on the radio that it was 99% certain that he would not run outside the Republican Party.

I'd say a statement like that leaves wiggle room.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-16   11:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: aristeides (#10)

Well, let's just defeat the Diebold boys in the Gay Old Party and get the nomination then!!! lolol

What North American Union?

Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!

FOH  posted on  2007-11-16   11:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: aristeides (#5)

I wonder if this is one of the ways they're thinking of siphoning support from Ron Paul.

Yes, thing is, tv commentators generally don't make good Presidential candidates.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-11-16   11:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: longnose gar (#1) (Edited)

For years, he was just a blue blood Rockefeller Republican

Since when do Bushbots like you have a problem with "blueblood Rockefeller Republicans?" If there's anyone who that label pegs, it's your hero George W.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-16   11:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FOH (#9)

Based on my conversations with our State Ron Paul 2008 coordinator, Ron Paul has unequivocally and without ambiguity declared that he will NOT run for POTUS anywhere but in the Republican Party...

This is what he has consistently stated whenever asked about a third-party bid.

He knows that it won't work, the way the game is rigged.

We have to get it done in the pubbie primaries - end of story.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-16   11:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lodwick (#14)

Onward and upward!

What North American Union?

Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!

FOH  posted on  2007-11-16   12:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lodwick (#14)

We have to get it done in the pubbie primaries - end of story.

Money.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-16   12:03:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lodwick, *Ron Paul for President 2008* (#14)

Based on my conversations with our State Ron Paul 2008 coordinator, Ron Paul has unequivocally and without ambiguity declared that he will NOT run for POTUS anywhere but in the Republican Party... This is what he has consistently stated whenever asked about a third-party bid.

He knows that it won't work, the way the game is rigged.

We have to get it done in the pubbie primaries - end of story

Several states have a so-called "sore loser" law that prohibits anyone running and loosing in the primary from running as an independent in the general election.

This would keep Paul off many state ballots.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-11-16   12:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Brian S. RP friends (#17)

This would keep Paul off many state ballots.

I did not know that, but I guarantee you that RP does.

Hitting my head for not recalling which interview it was, where he went by, point by point, all the reasons that he would not be a third-party candidate again.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-16   12:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Brian S (#17)

This would keep Paul off many state ballots.

Just another reason that Ron Paul will not run as a third party candidate. He will just return to congress. If he has money remaining, he can return it to everyone that donated over a certain amount.

DWornock  posted on  2007-11-16   13:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lodwick (#14)

We have to get it done in the pubbie primaries - end of story.

Stone cold fact.

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison (1751-1836),Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
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Peppa  posted on  2007-11-17   12:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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