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#108. To: FOH (#106)

What's Health Freedom, FOH? I'm well aware of the NAU, and I'm here to tell you some among us think it's a peachy-keen idea. Those folks need a severe beating.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-19   16:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#109. To: iconoclast, buckeye, Zipporah, wbales, Burkeman1 (#104)

More bluntly, let them drown in their own oil and vomit.

I leave it to my fellow posters to ponder who is the rather "odd" man out here.

Your comments are self-revealing.

Yes, unfortunately I may be the "odd" man out and your 'tude is likely far more common and embraced by the majority of my fellow 'merikans - ergo that's why our nation has been so easily misled into wars based on lies to bully all those "savages out there" and why our military savagery has caused us to be disgraced on the international stage.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-11-19   16:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#110. To: Jethro Tull (#108)

Those folks need a severe beating.

That's totalitarian thinking, to think anybody needs a severe beating merely because of a belief -- even if it is a mistaken belief.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-19   16:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#111. To: aristeides (#110)

Let me amend my comment. Anyone who is actively working or supporting the joining of us with Mexico and Canada into a common North American Union needs to be shot, not beaten.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-19   16:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#112. To: Jethro Tull (#105)

I'm weary of this slurry of slop cultures the PTB are allowing into our country.

You'll receive no argument from me about how the family reunification immigration policy has brought no benefit to our nation's development. But for me it's not a problem of "slop cultures." It's the fact that the majority of immigrants coming here have zero professional skills/educational specialization that our nation needs. Also we have changed from a melting pot nation to one that celebrates diversity and separateness so immigrants are not encouraged to assimilate.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-11-19   16:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#113. To: Jethro Tull (#108)

What's Health Freedom, FOH?

Thank you for asking! "Health Freedom" is our ability to privately use vitamins, minerals and other natural/alternative sources for our health. In Europe, you can only get fractional amounts and they are DISPENSED VIA BIG PHARMA in most if not all cases.

I'm well aware of the NAU, and I'm here to tell you some among us think it's a peachy-keen idea. Those folks need a severe beating.

I know. The Enemy Within includes lots of home grown America haters, self-loathing elites and parasites that should reconsider what is going to happen if continue the final deconstruction of our country...

From the April 2007 Idaho Observer:

Advancing NAU greatest threat to health freedom

Americans are becoming quite ill and are realizing that the pharmaceutical industry profits immensely by making them sick—and keeping them that way. In desperation, Americans (and Canadians) are looking for alternatives. Ironically, the "alternatives" are the naturopathic modalities, herbs and diets that people commonly understood before drugs and chemically-adulterated food and drink replaced common sense. Anticipating that the human guinea pigs would someday "catch on," organized medicine began plotting to gain regulatory control of vitamins and herbs. The plan, through an international cooperative called the Codex Alimentarius Commission, which is attempting to "harmonize" the food and drug regulatory schemes under the auspices of "free trade," is THE greatest threat to health freedom in North America. While the FDA and its minions are attempting to distract the health freedom movement by publicizing its intent to adopt objectionable administrative rule changes, the political and economic dissolution of our north and south borders is marching on...

By The Idaho Observer

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has become notoriously responsible for approving numerous dangerous drugs and harmful food additives. The agency should be completely dismantled, or at least reorganized and many of its policy makers held criminally accountable for their roles in maiming and killing millions of Americans with their "approvals."

But the opposite is happening. Through its participation in the Trilateral Cooperation Charter and with almost zero Congressional oversight, the FDA is secretly pushing with all its administrative might for the implementation of Codex Alimentarius among North American Union nations Canada, the U.S. and Mexico.

The FDA is currently acting as though a North American Union were already in place, even though there has NEVER been any implementing legislation passed by Congress to allow this rogue agency to do what it’s doing.

If Canada, Mexico and the U.S. are to officially merge financially and politically as the North American Union (NAU), the current laws in place that protect our health freedoms, such as the Dietary Supplement and Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA), will be superseded by the NAU and Codex regulations.

At the core of this issue is national sovereignty. It is bad enough that we have unelected representatives from the FDA representing the interests of big pharma and the bio-tech food industry rather than the citizens of the U.S. But if we lose our sovereignty as a nation, the rights of the consumer will, in effect, be replaced with the regulatory schemes intended to promote "free trade"—which is a euphemism for "fascist exploitation of resources and markets."

Under Codex, consumer rights of fair access to what the FDA refers to as "complimentary and alternative modalities/medicine (CAM)" will cease to exist and will be replaced with a regulatory scheme that omits administrative remedies for relief from arbitrarily-imposed restrictions on how we choose to maintain our own health.

This is why it is so important to support the current health freedom organizations that are clear on this issue and be aware of the constant attacks they endure from well-organized, controlled opposition groups. The two organizations in our country who work tirelessly to protect our health freedoms by representing consumers at international Codex meetings and opposing CAFTA and the NAU are the International Advocates for Health Freedom (IAHF) and the National Health Federation.

The controlled opposition

IAHF director John Hammell just had an encounter with such a controlled opposition group while he was speaking on April 14 at the annual Total Health Show in Toronto, Ontario. According to a recent email from Hammell, "Vexatious Litigant Trueman Tuck of the Friends of Freedom had a process server serve legal papers on me as I was on the stage where the crowd joined me in singing ‘Oh Canada’ and I presented a powerful program about how Codex restrictions are being ushered into the U.S. and Canada via the FDA’s Trilateral Cooperation Charter with Canada and Mexico.

"Clearly, Tuck and his allies, including the U.S.-based Natural Solutions Foundation, don’t want this information seeing the light of day and they’d love to tentpeg IAHF and all Allied Organizations for attempting to stop the North American Union dictatorship from ushering Codex vitamin restrictions into North America, but they’re not going to get away with it!

"Tuck is also suing Mezine, Inc., and numerous other parties, including long-time Canadian health freedom activist Marilyn Nelson, whose organization he literally hijacked in an obvious effort to try to STOP her from discussing Canadian sovereignty issues in the context of her health freedom work.

"Tuck was attempting to get me to lose my composure just before I participated in a panel discussion with Robert Verkerk, PhD, Executive Director of the UK based Alliance for Natural Health and Scott Tips, JD, Legal Counsel to the National Health Federation, but he failed," Hammell said. "In our panel discussion, we alerted the Canadian and American people to something Tuck and his allies, including the Natural Solutions Foundation and so called ‘Citizens for Health,’ are trying hard to distract them from: The pending destruction of Canada by the North American Union Dictatorship, and the FDA’s Trilateral Cooperation Charter which is the primary mechanism via which genocidal Codex restrictions are being ushered in to North America.

"After my presentation, our booth was swamped by Canadian vitamin consumers eager to learn what they can do to defend their country from its planned destruction and to protect their access to dietary supplements as the NAU is being used as the mechanism to usher in CODEX."

Hammell is convinced that the same architects of the European Union (EU) "are attempting to shove the NAU down our throats in North America within the next three years."

He insists that Tuck of Friends of Freedom in Canada and Rima Laibow of the Natural Solutions Foundation in the U.S. are effectively helping them do this by distracting vitamin consumers from realizing that globalization, not government agency administrative fiat, is the number one threat to health freedom.

Hammell and IAHF are working with health freedom advocacy groups all over the world, including the National Health Federation, the Alliance for Natural Health, the Dr. Rath Health Foundation, and Freedom in Canadian Health Care. "We recognize the fact that, given the myriad of threats coming at us right now, the only chance we have of defending health freedom is to analyze each threat and assign a level of risk to each one in order not to dissipate our energy," Hammell explained.

FDA guidance furor

Hammell is concerned about what he sees as an orchestrated overreaction to the FDA’s recent announcement that it plans to regulate juices and vitamins as drugs and masseuses’ hands as medical instruments. "For 18 years I have been responding to FDA ‘guidance documents’ and the one discussed in FDA Docket No. 2006D-0480 in the December 2006 Federal Register Notice has been HYPED to the NTH DEGREE by the Natural Solutions Foundation (headed by Laibow) and Tuck. They have managed to con a huge number of people into believing that ‘the sky is falling’ and that ‘unless you flood FDA with complaints by April 30, the world, as we know it, will come to an END!’

"This is simply not true. I have read the entire Guidance Document and it is nothing more than FDA ‘saber rattling,’ mostly over the labeling of dietary supplements."

In all humility, The IO was seduced by the "sky-is-falling" hype that erupted around the FDA guidance document. But Hammell reminded us of the layers of intrigue working in concert to control or eliminate over-the-counter access to high-potency vitamins and supplements. We realized that his assessment is correct and that the process is covertly marching forward under the guise of free trade agreements and globalization.

According to Hammell, "Any time a supposed health freedom group in Canada or America (such as Friends of Freedom and Natural Solutions Foundation) doesn’t lift a FINGER to defend National Sovereignty given a threat as HUGE as the NAU is, that is a DEAD TIP OFF that they’re not your friends."

Hammell added, "Any time a supposed Health Freedom group sues IAHF, (as Tuck is now doing and as Natural Solutions Foundation did to film maker Kevin Miller when he refused to remove the information about CAFTA from "We Become Silent"), you can also be sure they’re not your friends."

Truck out

The IAHF urges everyone to support the national Truck Out April 23-25:
This "TRUCK OUT" intends to paralyze the Washington Beltway and perimeter roads around the Capitals of all 50 states to make national and international news as a means to force the media to cover the threat of the North American Union. This coverage will help us expose the FDA’s lawless participation in the Trilateral Cooperation Charter as if under the presumption that United States and its laws no longer exist.

HR 4282

On November 9, 2005, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) introduced the Health Freedom Protection Act (HR 4282). The short title of the bill states, "[t]o amend the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act concerning foods and dietary supplements, to amend the Federal Trade Commission Act concerning the burden of proof in false advertising cases, and for other purposes."

There were 22 co-sponsors of H.R. 4282 when it was introduced. It will end up dying in November of this year if not revived by citizen demand for its passage.

For more information about globalization, international free trade agreements and health freedom, contact:

IAHF - John Hammell, director

556 Boundary Bay Rd.

Point Roberts WA 98281

USA: 800-333-2553

N. America 360-945-0352

www.StopCodexGenocide.com

The National Health Federation

P.O. Box 688

Monrovia, CA 91017

626-357-2181

www.thenhf.com

SOURCE

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FOH  posted on  2007-11-19   16:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#114. To: Jethro Tull (#111)

Hanging will work too...

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FOH  posted on  2007-11-19   16:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#115. To: scrapper2 (#109)

Few Americans have had any significant contact with the Muslim world whatsoever to render any opinion pro or con as to the particulars of the many cultures and peoples who embrace one of the forms of that Religion. So they rely on the great stupid simplifiers like that Serb Idiot.

And it is quite common to see among the most arrogant and self absorbed people ever- Americans, even the ones who are "anti war" to blame the victim. Yes- maybe they think one of DC's wars is wrong but not because DC is killing innocent people- but it is wasting money killing despicable savages who are dirt people and not worth the cost of the bullets used to kill them.

Such people are one step removed from the ignorant herds of hateful dumb dumbs who support DC's wars of aggrandizement. Some of them are even worse for some of the war supporters actually think DC is trying to "help" the "savages".

Anyway- grin and bear it. Practical politics requires that, on occassion, one has to buy evil a drink to do some good.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-19   16:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#116. To: scrapper2 (#112)

You'll receive no argument from me about how the family reunification immigration policy has brought no benefit to our nation's development. But for me it's not a problem of "slop cultures." It's the fact that the majority of immigrants coming here have zero professional skills/educational specialization that our nation needs. Also we have changed from a melting pot nation to one that celebrates diversity and separateness so immigrants are not encouraged to assimilate.

Well said.

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FOH  posted on  2007-11-19   16:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#117. To: scrapper2 (#112)

I mostly agree with your comment except to say if I were king all immigration would stop ASAP. My kids are telling me that foreign professionals are coming here on H1B visas not b/c of a need, but more to surplant American workers at a discount rate.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-19   16:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#118. To: Jethro Tull (#117)

15yearsleft.com

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FOH  posted on  2007-11-19   16:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#119. To: FOH (#106)

CODEX

We've had a few threads on that. Not good. Do keep us up to speed when you see something.

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robin  posted on  2007-11-19   16:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#120. To: robin (#119) (Edited)

It's going on right now.

Do you know of the NACC (North American Competitiveness Council)?

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FOH  posted on  2007-11-19   16:30:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#121. To: Burkeman1 (#115)

Few Americans have had any significant contact with the Muslim world whatsoever to render any opinion pro or con as to the particulars of the many cultures and peoples who embrace one of the forms of that Religion. So they rely on the great stupid simplifiers like that Serb Idiot.

Call me judgmental but when I see a Muslim woman dressed in head to toe black, save for an eye slit, I recoil in shock. I suppose some here would intentionally ignore these costume-clad freaks in the name of tolerance, but I'm not able to do so. There is no power strong enough that could make me have "significant contact" with these aliens.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-19   16:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#122. To: FOH (#120)

a “cherrypicked group of executives who were whisked to Cancun in March by the leaders of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, and asked to come up with a plan for taking North American integration beyond NAFTA.”

NAU

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robin  posted on  2007-11-19   16:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#123. To: robin (#122)

It's all over if we don't stop it/them. They have America in our final throws, save for armed revolution.

I don't see anyone leading that charge...yet.

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FOH  posted on  2007-11-19   16:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#124. To: Jethro Tull (#121) (Edited)

Call me judgmental but when I see a Muslim woman dressed in head to toe black, save for an eye slit, I recoil in shock. I suppose some here would intentionally ignore these costume-clad freaks in the name of tolerance, but I'm not able to do so. There is no power strong enough that could make me have "significant contact" with these aliens.

Do you have the same "recoil" reactions when you see an Indian woman in a sari or a Haddasic Jew wearing a shtreimel or when you see Catholic nuns with their headress "costumes?" Or is it just when you see Muslims in their traditional garb? Just last week I ran into 2 Muslim ladies in traditional garb in a local H&M store - fyi H&M is like a British version of reasonably priced but more fashion forward Gap. In fact, H&M has stores in Dubai and Kuwait. I don't think that traditional grab is a good judge of "backwardness"/alien or as some here have described Muslims using a broad brush stroke - people caught in the 6th century.

Personally I view ethnic/religious costumery as being more elegant and less jarring to the eye than our own "made in America- yah-hooo!" pop culture garb ie. slut wear for women and gangster wear for men

scrapper2  posted on  2007-11-19   17:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#125. To: Jethro Tull (#111)

Let me amend my comment. Anyone who is actively working or supporting the joining of us with Mexico and Canada into a common North American Union needs to be shot, not beaten.

Stalin would approve.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-19   17:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#126. To: Jethro Tull (#121)

Call me judgmental but when I see a Muslim woman dressed in head to toe black, save for an eye slit, I recoil in shock. I suppose some here would intentionally ignore these costume-clad freaks in the name of tolerance, but I'm not able to do so. There is no power strong enough that could make me have "significant contact" with these aliens.

Frankly, I'd be more embarrassed of what passes for female role models in America -- Anna Nicole, Britney, Hillary Clinton, Streisand, Lindsey Lohan.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-11-19   17:07:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#127. To: scrapper2 (#109)

Your comments are self-revealing.

LOL

Ironically, back at you in spades.

Most of us on this forum don't, and never did, buy into the neocon madness. You're mostly into telling us all about your supercilious, man of the world self .... it seems well beneath you to bother answering points made.

Well guess what? We 'merikans don't give a rat's ass, and are only left to wonder who amongst the PC elitist crowd has been filling your head. Take your goofy stance and board a slow boat to Europe. Arm yourself before you get there.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-11-19   17:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#128. To: aristeides (#125)

Stalin would approve.

So would Washington, Franklin, etc.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-19   17:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#129. To: scrapper2 (#124)

Do you have the same "recoil" reactions when you see an Indian woman in a sari or a Haddasic Jew wearing a shtreimel or when you see Catholic nuns with their headress "costumes?"

Yes on both except the Catholic nun. They've been woven into Americana thanks to Der Bingle and all those Fr. Flannigan, Boys Town movies.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-19   17:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#130. To: iconoclast (#127)

Most of us on this forum don't, and never did, buy into the neocon madness. You're mostly into telling us all about your supercilious, man of the world self .... it seems well beneath you to bother answering points made.

Well guess what? We 'merikans don't give a rat's ass, and are only left to wonder who amongst the PC elitist crowd has been filling your head. Take your goofy stance and board a slow boat to Europe. Arm yourself before you get there.

I've responded to your points/your position. You just don't agree with my responses so don't pretend that I have not answered "points made." For the last few messages you have posted your only "point" has been to insult me. Whatever floats your boat I guess.

As I said earlier, your comments are self-revealing. Keep it up - your remarks are far more unflattering to you than me.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-11-19   17:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#131. To: scrapper2 (#112)

But for me it's not a problem of "slop cultures." It's the fact that the majority of immigrants coming here have zero professional skills/educational specialization that our nation needs.

How 'bout the Somalian refugees? There you get two for the price of one. But, the price is high indeed.

In one of my first posts to the thread I stated "strengthen the security of our borders, severely and very selectively limit immigration of Muslims to our county, and strengthen our weakened C.I.A.

Just one of several statements here by me and others that you blithely skipped over in your haste to get to your excessively tolerant mantra.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-11-19   17:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#132. To: Burkeman1, scrapper2 (#115)

So they rely on the great stupid simplifiers like that Serb Idiot.

Nice slur .... the Serb idiot PHD has experienced the the rabbit-like expansion of Muslim encroachment close up. But, your very superior view from afar is undoubtedly the correct one.

And it is quite common to see among the most arrogant and self absorbed people ever- Americans, even the ones who are "anti war" to blame the victim. Yes- maybe they think one of DC's wars is wrong but not because DC is killing innocent people- but it is wasting money killing despicable savages who are dirt people and not worth the cost of the bullets used to kill them.

Such people are one step removed from the ignorant herds of hateful dumb dumbs who support DC's wars of aggrandizement. Some of them are even worse for some of the war supporters actually think DC is trying to "help" the "savages".

Interesting. When did you get into mind reading?

Anyway- grin and bear it. Practical politics requires that, on occasion, one has to buy evil a drink to do some good.

Puzzling. Is controlled, intelligent, and legal immigration one of your "evil drinks"?

I must say I was surprised to see you crawl into bed with this shoot-from-the- hip pseudo intellectual.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-11-19   18:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#133. To: scrapper2 (#130)

As I said earlier, your comments are self-revealing. Keep it up - your remarks are far more unflattering to you than me.

Your above the fray, non-responses fool and impress no one.

As you say whatever floats your boat.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-11-19   18:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#134. To: Vitamin Z (#126) (Edited)

Good grief. What is more offensive? Some goo blob stupid American woman in a half shirt with her MacDonald's fed fat belly spilling out over her tight jeans that she has no business on earth wearing considering her rump size or some Persian chick dressed in an aqua blue Gandi sack with a head scarf? Granted- both are eye sores- but if I had to pick one to be my neighbor just on appearence . . . well . . . how do you say "can you spare a cup of sugar" in Farsi?

Maybe because I live in a city- in which I daily have contact with foreigners that I don't get all tizzed up upon seeing them. I have daily contact with Muslims- at my gym all the attendents are muslims- all nice guys and each one of them speaks three or four languages- their "leader" speaks 5. Granted- they ain't the religious type. ANd they make like 10 bucks an hour. On the other hand- not one of them intends to stay in America and is here just to make money for school or to help out their families. My coffee shop is owned by a Muslim couple- the woman complete with head scarf- and she henpecks her husband everyday- it is rather funny.

I have never once felt threatened, ever, by a Muslim. But I have felt threatened by many "native" Americans. From menacing black youth, to skate boarding little white maggot teens who travel in packs, to drunks staggering around looking for fights every thursday to saturday night . . . I have never seen a Muslim squat in a Bank of America ATM entrance and take a dump. Never seen a Muslim beat up another muslim over a sausage at 2AM in the morning.

You know- Dr Fleming of Chronicles Magazine once did a speech at a gathering of "Old Right" conservatives against the war in Iraq and after the speech- a young officer just back from Iraq and a self described born again Christian commented to him that compared to Americans- he believed Iraqis were bettered mannered, more moral, and self respecting in general.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-19   18:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#135. To: Jethro Tull (#111)

Let me amend my comment. Anyone who is actively working or supporting the joining of us with Mexico and Canada into a common North American Union needs to be shot, not beaten.

Getting back to the subject of the thread, Glenn Beck will be in Indy for a book signing next Saturday. Our RP meetup coordinator asked that we not hector him about 911, UFO's, or the Bilberbergs, but I didn't see anything about kicking him squa' in the nuts.

Anyone want to hire David Horowitz for a "speaking engagement"? I'll bring my seven iron.

Dear finky FBI agent reading this - it is intended only as humor and in no way constitutes a threat, or even a reasonable facsimile of a threat.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-19   18:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#136. To: Burkeman1 (#134)

Good grief. What is more offensive? Some goo blob stupid American woman in a half shirt with her MacDonald's fed fat belly spilling out over her tight jeans that she has no business on earth wearing considering her rump size or some Persian chick dressed in an aqua blue Gandi sack with a head scarf? Granted- both are eye sores- but if I had to pick one to be my neighbor just on appearence . . . well . . . how do you say "can you spare a cup of sugar" in Farsi?

Sure....you’d change your mind if Azarnoosh's goat freed itself and mounted your leftist New England rump one cold, stormy evening. Or maybe you wouldn’t…..

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-19   18:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#137. To: Dakmar (#135)

I'll bring my seven iron.

Take your sand wedge for maximum effect.

Open your stance a bit, eyes on the ball(s), full take-a-way, then a nice release at impact, and follow-through.

Gelded in one smooth stroke.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-19   18:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#138. To: scrapper2 (#124)

Do you have the same "recoil" reactions when you see an Indian woman in a sari or a Haddasic Jew wearing a shtreimel or when you see Catholic nuns with their headress "costumes?" Or is it just when you see Muslims in their traditional garb?

You should see the looks I get when I walk into a deli decked out in full SS garb.

Just kidding, I would never do that.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-19   18:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#139. To: lodwick (#137)

LOL, what was I thinking?

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-19   18:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#140. To: iconoclast (#132)

But, your very superior view from afar is undoubtedly the correct one.

Yes, it is. As his "experience" with Albanians extrapolated to "Islam" in general is a great big stupid simplification- one that is quite rampant on the reich wing.

I must say I was surprised to see you crawl into bed with this shoot-from- the- hip pseudo intellectual.

That would be the stupid simplifying Serb?

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-19   18:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#141. To: Dakmar (#135)

I LOVE the word hector when used as a verb. Thank-you. Did u catch Horowitz on Beck's show last week? Back had no clue the guy was raised a communist by his parents (yes folks, in NYC there was/is an active communist party). He fawned all over him since Horowitz is all war all the time.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-11-19   18:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#142. To: Burkeman1 (#134)

Never seen a Muslim beat up another muslim over a sausage at 2AM in the morning.

No, they just kill their daughters for getting raped.

I hate all this Muslim bashing too, to be honest, but I think multiculturalism is the most moronic bit of social engineering to come along in my lifetime. The stupidity is compounded when extended to cultures with no reciprocity. How well do you think I'd fare walking around Mecca with my shoulder length hair and AC/DC "Highway to Hell" t-shirt?

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-19   18:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#143. To: Jethro Tull (#141)

Saw it on the 'net afterward. Horowitz is a steaming pile of red-diaper goo.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-19   18:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#144. To: Dakmar (#142)

No, they just kill their daughters for getting raped.

Yeah- that is what they do. All of them all over the muslim world- every woman raped is killed by their family. Are you a fucking idiot? I would wager that outside western imposed war zones in the Muslim world- fewer women are murderd in all of "islam" yearly than are murdered in the United States.

You know- I should start a news service. One dedicated to highlighting every fucked up weird ass crime committed by "Christians" and just do that all day long- post story after story of freak Christian cults having sex with 10 year old child brides and murdering pastors, and child molesting priests, and reverends who go on weekend long drug fueled sex sessions with gay prostitutes, of priests who helped committ genocide in Rwanda, or Christian Serb rape gangs- no matter where- no matter how different the motivations, circumstances, or conditions- just reduce all that evil down- to the fact that they are Christains. Like the neocons and Israel firsters do to Muslims all the time- like the "They kill daughters line" you just spewed.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-19   18:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#145. To: Jethro Tull (#136)

leftist New England rump one cold,

Yawn. It is so funny how you stoop to the neocon and reich winger charge of "leftism" just as if you were only a step removed from them . . .

oh right- you are.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-11-19   18:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#146. To: Burkeman1 (#144)

I didn't say it was common, I was just countering your nonsense about how every culture is perfect except ours. If you bothered to continue reading my post you would have seen that I'm sick of the muslim bashing myself, and only said it to show how silly you are.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-19   19:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#147. To: Burkeman1 (#140)

Yes, it is. As his "experience" with Albanians extrapolated to "Islam" in general is a great big stupid simplification- one that is quite rampant on the reich wing.

His stance is squarely based upon the Koran and ME history.

Your "reich" type slurs continue.

Beheadings, female abuse, bomb strapping mad folk and leadership of nations based on on an individuals' memorization of the Koran and Hadith require little in the way of "extrapolation".

Muslim apologists .... now there's a strain.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-11-19   19:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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