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Title: Homeland Security Links 9/11 Truthers to Taliban
Source: Spktruth2power’s Weblog
URL Source: http://spktruth2power.wordpress.com ... links-911-truthers-to-taliban/
Published: Nov 17, 2007
Author: Barbara H. Peterson
Post Date: 2007-11-17 10:54:29 by snoopdougg
Keywords: None
Views: 244
Comments: 26

Homeland Security Links 9/11 Truthers to Taliban November 16, 2007 by spktruth2power

Do you remember when Bush Jr. said, “either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists”? Well, he meant it. Homeland Security’s sub-committee on terrorism risk assessment convened a hearing on 11-06-2007 to discuss “using the Web as a weapon - the Internet as a tool for violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism.” In a video of this meeting, which was last aired by C-Span on 11-12-2007, members of the sub-committee clearly pointed to Internet sites that question the legitimacy of the official 9/11 story as tools for recruiting terrorists.

During the course of the hearing, Mark Weitzman of the Simon Wiesenthal Center displayed a Power Point Presentation illustrating what his organization considers terrorist recruitment sites. Here is his testimony:

To illustrate the trends described above, we have put together a short PowerPoint demonstration. Without going into deep detail in these written remarks, I would like to offer some brief descriptions of the material that will be shown. The presentation begins with a look at how 9/11 is viewed in some eyes online, including those who applauded it as well as some conspiracies sites. The presence of the conspiracy site is significant, since so much of what passes as fact online is actually based on some form of conspiracy…

Next is a series of sites of media portals which show some of the varied methods that the Islamists use to get their message out, including some based on United States servers. These are followed by some looks at charts and other manuals on how to use violence, along with a novel interpretation of jihad that calls for an “electronic jihad.”

One of these “media portals” displayed in the Power Point presentation is Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. This site is sandwiched between a Taliban training manual, and several Taliban recruitment sites showing how to make bombs, take captives, and blow buildings up.

Representative Jane Harmon posed the following question to Bruce Hoffman regarding extremist groups using the Internet to recruit potential terrorists: “So this movement develops them into violent killers?” Bruce Hoffman, a Georgetown University security studies professor, and Chairman of the Rand Corporation in Counterterrorism and Counterinsurgency, stated that “falsehoods and conspiracy theorists have become so ubiquitous and believed that you almost have some sort of parallel truth, and it has become a very effective tool for recruiting people.” The “people” he is referring to are potential terrorists. Mark Weitzman stated: “These people are constructing their own version of reality, full of conspiracy theories, full of doctored videos, that will recruit or inflame the emotions.” 9/11 “conspiracy theorist” groups are included in this generalization.

By portraying sites such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth as terrorist recruitment organizations, the Department of Homeland Security has taken a dangerous step towards punishing anyone who questions the government. If you go to the A&E Website, you will see that it is a group of “ 212 architectural and engineering professionals and 518 other supporters including A/E students who have joined…in demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation of the collapse of the WTC buildings.” Their mission statement is, “To research and to disseminate the truth of the 9/11 “collapses” of all 3 WTC high-rise buildings to every architect and engineer.” I cannot find any indication that this site promotes terrorism, much less recruits terrorists for the Taliban, yet the Department of Homeland Security has taken the stance that the site is “intended to recruit or inflame the emotions” (Weitzman, M.), and lumps it in with sites disseminating the Taliban Training Manual, and advocating suicide bombings.

Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute - The Search for International Terrorist Entities went on to blame the Internet for Bush Jr.’s failed “war on terror,” and Representative Charles Dent stated that one possible way to help fight purported Internet terrorism would be to “turn the Internet into a less reliable source of information” by putting up phony Websites to collect information on terrorists as well as disseminate false information. Parry Aftab, Executive Director of Wiredsafety.org, also suggested that the government should collect IP addresses of suspected terrorist Websites to aid in the fight against terror on the Internet. Websites such as Architects for 9/11 Truth for instance?

If all Websites that disagree with the official government explanation of the collapse of the WTC towers is placed on a list of suspected terrorist Websites, what is next? Like Bush Jr. stated: “either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.”

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#1. To: snoopdougg (#0)

If all Websites that disagree with the official government explanation of the collapse of the WTC towers is placed on a list of suspected terrorist Websites, what is next? Like Bush Jr. stated: “either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.”

It would certainly explain Goldi's actions if she is part of this group of people that view "truthers" and "Ron Paul supporters" in the same light as they view bin Laden.

Just more evidence that mass brainwashing and forced medication of the populace DOES work.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-17   11:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: snoopdougg (#0)

I don't believe North Vietnam attacked the USS Maddox and the USS Turner Joy.

Come and get me, fuckers.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-17   11:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: snoopdougg (#0)

chilling, but unfortunately not surprising. we've seen so much evil from the clique that rules us. remember what they did at Waco & Ruby Ridge & other such events. we're dealing with extremely evil spiritual forces.

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-11-17   14:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: snoopdougg (#0)

Oddly, this is a majority of Jews making these spurious claims in the halls of government.


"Abe Foxman, my good friend and partner." - John Negroponte

Read New History


JiminyC  posted on  2007-11-17   14:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: snoopdougg (#0)

The government worked with mohamedans to blow up the Murrah Federal Bldg in OKC, so I could care less about the propaganda they push...

What North American Union?

Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!

Tea Party '07

FOH  posted on  2007-11-17   14:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: JiminyC (#4)

Oddly, this is a majority of Jews making these spurious claims in the halls of government.

Why would that be odd when the halls of government consist of a majority of Jews?

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   14:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: innieway (#6)

Drag Queen Julie Annie has already picked a court of Jews, or maybe they have picked him. Either way a vote for Giuliani is a vote for Israel.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   14:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Either way a vote for Giuliani is a vote for Israel.

Or Hitlery.

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   14:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: innieway (#8)

Or Hitlery.

inny..Your English lesson for today.

synonymous

modif.

same, like, similar, equivalent, identical, correspondent, corresponding, alike, interchangeable, synonymic, convertible, apposite, compatible, coincident; see also equal.

Prof. Cyni...

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   14:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

inny..Your English lesson for today.

synonymous

modif.

same, like, similar, equivalent, identical, correspondent, corresponding, alike, interchangeable, synonymic, convertible, apposite, compatible, coincident; see also equal.

Prof. Cyni...

But...But...But...But they're in different parties...... How can this be???

OH. Now I know what you're talking about.... Rudy's been in Hitlery's closet trying things on again hasn't he/she...

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   15:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: snoopdougg (#0)

By portraying sites such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth as terrorist recruitment organizations, the Department of Homeland Security has taken a dangerous step towards punishing anyone who questions the government.

I recently found the webiste mentioned in the article. Maybe the reason that Homeland Security is so concerned is that many of the people involved with the site appear to be highly credible. Some of those videos are pretty damning to the official story. Of course, they could be doctored.

There's one way the government can clear this up right away: bright sunshine.

Get rid of the secrecy. Open a new investigation. It's not good for the country when large numbers of citizens believe the government is lying to them.

What to do about the current administration is another matter entirely.

mindful  posted on  2007-11-17   15:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: innieway (#10)

inny...

There is a rather coarse retort about Hillary but being a gentleman I will refrain.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   15:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mindful (#11)

There's one way the government can clear this up right away: bright sunshine.

A few days ago Paul said if President he would throw open the books...I think that statement has galvanized the government to make sure he never becomes president.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   15:18:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#12)

There is a rather coarse retort about Hillary but being a gentleman I will refrain.

Go ahead and say it Cyni - I'll stick my fingers in my virgin ears so I don't hear it...

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   15:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: innieway (#14)

I am not sure of your gender...If a lady I will not, if a gentleman I might reconsider.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   15:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mindful (#11)

Some of those videos are pretty damning to the official story. Of course, they could be doctored.

Not hardly when millions of people watched the same events the videos show on LIVE TV as it happened...

Buildings just don't come down that way that quick WITHOUT there being more to it than "the official story".

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   15:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: innieway (#16)

You're right, but the slow motion videos make it much easier to grasp and accept.

mindful  posted on  2007-11-17   15:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#15)

I am not sure of your gender...If a lady I will not, if a gentleman I might reconsider.

Yeah, you ARE old enough (no offense meant) to understand pig latin huh...

All man here, in spite of the username. It came from my ex. It was a pretty cool "username" compared to mine in pig latin, so I started using it a long time ago - while the internet was still a relative "fledgling". Of course back then there was no Google and such, Yahoo was still a big deal. To keep things simple (for my simple mind) I just used the same thing on all sites that I needed a username. (Last time I checked, the next available "innieway" on yahoo would need a triple-digit number added to the end. I'm the ORIGINAL just plain ol Innieway) Now I've had it so long, I don't even want to go back and redo it. Besides, it keeps 'em guessing, and me not...

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   15:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: innieway (#18)

Well, ok. Dont let this get out.

From a good source I understand Drag Queen Rudy was caught in Hitlerys dressing room trying on Hillarys ATHLETIC SUPPORTER.

I cleaned it up a bit in case some ladies might read.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   15:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mindful (#17)

You're right, but the slow motion videos make it much easier to grasp and accept.

They do help.

I happened to catch it on live TV that morning. The wife was in the bathroom, and I hollered out "Come check this shit out!"

We watched a little bit and then saw the second plane hit. I was stunned! The "word" was we might even be under attack. Then something dawned on me, and I told my wife "I can't believe this shit. If I were gonna intentionally hit that building in a plane like that, I would have hit it a lot lower down. That way the weight of the building over the impact area might have been enough to make the thing come completely down. As it is, sprinklers are going off, and they'll be getting the fires put out before much else can happen. There'll be a lot of damage, but at least they'll still be standing. They can FIX the damage." I used to work construction. I know how buildings are built. I was once involved in rebuilding a boiler that had EXPLODED, and the damage was enormous, BUT the building itself was still standing (and the building was basically just to house the boiler itself).

Then I went out to work.

In a little while, the wife hollered out to me "COME HERE - QUICK". I went running back to the house, and as I was coming in the door she said "I thought you said they wouldn't be falling down." They were in the process of replaying it on TV. I saw that, and at THAT MOMENT I KNEW something was wrong...

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   15:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#19)

BWWWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Don't worry Cyni, I'll keep it under wraps the best I can.

HEY EVERYBODY! Check out what Cyni heard...

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   15:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: innieway (#21)

Off topic...

lodwick and Jethro know who all the ladies are here. I asked them for the list and they wouldnt share.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-17   16:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

See if Critter will. I think he knows too.

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   16:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom, innieway (#19)

is Rudy a crossdressing tranvestite?

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-17   16:43:49 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: snoopdougg (#0)

Gosh, these people are so out of touch with the grassroots populace it is amazing. I wonder if they ever get out and mingle with the peasants?

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-11-17   17:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vitamin Z (#25)

Gosh, these people are so out of touch with the grassroots populace it is amazing. I wonder if they ever get out and mingle with the peasants?

I believe you answered your own question...

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-11-17   21:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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