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Title: Debunking the Truthers Again
Source: environmentalrepublican
URL Source: http://environmentalrepublican.blog ... /debunking-truthers-again.html
Published: Nov 18, 2007
Author: environmentalrepublican
Post Date: 2007-11-18 15:21:04 by longnose gar
Keywords: twoofers, cue spooky music, the joos did it
Views: 1167
Comments: 35

We've all read the Popular Mechanics study on the collapse of the Twin Towers, they painstakingly explained in plain English how the towers fell floor upon floor. That's not been enough for the "Truthers" who still are fixated on the collapse of both towers and WT 7.

Another magazine--Structure (link in PDF)-- has joined in the debunking and shows in perfect detail the "kinking" of the penthouse on the north side and the subsequent dropping of the penthouse that started the entire collapse. I'm no engineer but the explanation makes sense as to why the buildings collapsed inward and down and didn't fall over or fall in some other manner.

Of course the idiot Truthers will not buy into this because, just as global warming zealots have done, they've developed a cottage industry and they aren't about to agree with any rational explanation that would be presented.

Is it any surprise that these morons and Ron Paul supporters have united?

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#6. To: all (#0)

We've all read the Popular Mechanics study on the collapse of the Twin Towers, they painstakingly explained in plain English how the towers fell floor upon floor.

Written, as all know by now, Ben Chertoff, the cousin of Fatherland Security Czar, Michael Chertoff. I wonder if Mike's office edited the final release.

angle  posted on  2007-11-18   16:15:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: angle, FormerLurker, FOH (#6)

Written, as all know by now, Ben Chertoff, the cousin of Fatherland Security Czar, Michael Chertoff.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-11-18   16:23:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TwentyTwelve, angle (#9)

What's really amusing is how he tried to deny any relationship at first.

robin  posted on  2007-11-18   16:25:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robin (#10)

Truthers need a saliva test...

Just kiddin, stop throwing things.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-18   16:26:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#11)

Supporters of the conspiracy theories have claimed that 9/11: Debunking The Myths is "a propaganda piece" written by "a senior government official's cousin" because Chertoff bears the same last name as Department of Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff. However, Chertoff has repeatedly denied this claim, most notably in the September 11, 2006 issue of U.S. News & World Report, stating "no one in my family has ever met anyone related to Michael Chertoff".[7] In an audio interview, he noted that any possible relationship would likely only be found back in "19th century Belarus. However Benjamin Chertoff's Mother, when asked about a possible relation, she said they were cousins."[8]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Chertoff

robin  posted on  2007-11-18   16:32:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve (#13)

Paul Craig Roberts

www.vdare.com/roberts/070326_evidence.htm

Perhaps it is merely a coincidence that just prior to 9/11 Cathleen P. Black, who has family connections to the CIA and Pentagon and is president of Hearst Magazines, the owner of Popular Mechanics, fired the magazine’s editor-in-chief and several senior veteran staff members and installed James B. Meigs and Benjamin Chertoff, a cousin of Bush administration factotum Michael Chertoff. It was Meigs and Benjamin Chertoff who produced the Popular Mechanics report that Griffin has eviscerated.

In his conclusion Griffin reminds us that the 9/11 attack has been used to start wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, to plan an attack on Iran, to curtail constitutional protections and civil liberties in the US, to radically expand US military budgets and the power of the executive, and to enrich entrenched vested interests. Griffin is definitely correct about this regardless of whether a believable case can ever be made for the government’s version of the 9/11 conspiracy.

However Benjamin Chertoff's Mother, when asked about a possible relation, she said they were cousins."[8]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Chertoff

robin  posted on  2007-11-18   16:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: robin, TwentyTwelve (#16)

Perhaps it is merely a coincidence that just prior to 9/11 Cathleen P. Black, who has family connections to the CIA and Pentagon and is president of Hearst Magazines, the owner of Popular Mechanics, fired the magazine’s editor-in-chief and several senior veteran staff members and installed James B. Meigs and Benjamin Chertoff, a cousin of Bush administration factotum Michael Chertoff.

I find the highlighted part especially interesting..

It's sort of like the "coincidence" of a massive troop buildup in the Persian Gulf just BEFORE 9/11..

From A TIMELINE SURROUNDING SEPTEMBER 11TH

46. Sept. 1-10 2001 - In an exercise, called Operation "Swift Sword" and planned for four years, 23,000 British troops are steaming toward Oman. Although the 9-11 attacks caused a hiccup in the deployment, the massive operation was implemented as planned. At the same time two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive on station in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast. Also at the same time, some 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation "Bright Star." All of these forces are in place before the first plane hits the WTC. [Sources: The Guardian; CNN; Fox; The Observer; International Law Professor Francis Boyle, the University of Illinois.]

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-11-18 16:57:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: robin (#16)

Where'd Har Longoose go?

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