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Title: 4um Fundraiser for a Ron Paul Campaign Ad in a NH Newspaper (Creative input requested!)
Source: 4um
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Published: Nov 20, 2007
Author: 4um
Post Date: 2007-11-20 11:57:11 by robin
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We need ideas and people who are willing to create a great Ron Paul advertisement that we all pay for and place in a New Hampshire newspaper, ASAP!

More info will follow as to how to make your donations to pay for the advertisement. If you are interested in helping with the actual creative work involved please contribute your ideas on this thread.

This will be a joint effort for anyone who wishes to be involved.

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#398. To: All (#397)

There are now two sample version I have whipped up:

and

We can use either, or parts of either, colorize the first, etc.

We need a "decider". I know, GWB is the decider, but...

Seriously though, we need someone to officially approve a copy, because everyone has an opinion, we could be here for a year trying to accommodate them all.

Change for Ron Paul

Critter  posted on  2007-12-01   12:40:52 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#399. To: Cynicom (#392)

BANG

Are you shooting at bucks from your front porch again?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-12-01   13:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#400. To: Critter, ALL, Concensus needed on 2 ad choices (#398)

BTTT

christine  posted on  2007-12-01   13:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#401. To: Critter (#395)

I LOVE IT !

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   13:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#402. To: christine (#400)

The black and white is great for a black and white ad, the color is wonderful for a color ad.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-01   13:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#403. To: Peppa (#401)

Either will make a good flyer or email too.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-01   13:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#404. To: christine (#362)

Not bad at all, and I'll pony up.

But why does it have to start off like every other Republican ad? I get phone calls all the time from groups and candidates asking "Do you want Hillary to be president?" Of course the answer is no, but I always tell them that I think it's more important decide what you are for, and that any money I have is going to Paul, not them.

I do understand it has to be acceptable to the paper, too. But I'm wondering how effective that opening really is anymore with the Republican base. Paul is not just another Republican, and for me the headline detracts from that.

"Vampire Video" is so pejorative. At Intel we prefer the term "integrated graphics."

Tauzero  posted on  2007-12-01   13:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#405. To: robin (#403)

Either will make a good flyer or email too.

Agreed !

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   13:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#406. To: Tauzero (#404)

Paul is not just another Republican, and for me the headline detracts from that.

One thing I heard this morning on the news, is that 60% of NH folks are 'undecided'.

This ad is GUTSY. It puts the most important things in black and white. And, RP can back it up.

NONE of the others speak for Americans first.

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   13:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#407. To: christine (#362)

My 2 cents:

Illegal immigration; disarming citizens; warrantless searches; income taxes; fruitless, endless war. (Have a little pic symbolizing each, kinda collage-like.)

Is there a Doctor in the White House?

No. But there could be.

"Vampire Video" is so pejorative. At Intel we prefer the term "integrated graphics."

Tauzero  posted on  2007-12-01   13:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#408. To: Jethro Tull (#399)

Hey Santa,

While your out there shaking your booty in the snow, How about ringing a bell for some 'looty'... :)

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   13:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#409. To: Tauzero (#404)

But I'm wondering how effective that opening really is anymore with the Republican base. Paul is not just another Republican, and for me the headline detracts from that.

But are you a part of the Republican base?

I think the Republican base is scared to death of Hillary. People like us who already know and believe in Ron Paul don't need to be sold. We have to sell it to the base. Since not many of us are part of the Republican "base", our opinion really doesn't matter, does it? What we have to do is figure out how to turn the opinion of those who do matter.

I guess what I am saying is that we have to figure out the best way to reach the people who don't already believe in Ron Paul.

Change for Ron Paul

Critter  posted on  2007-12-01   14:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#410. To: Peppa (#408)

Mrs Clause is sending a check, this despite my vow to avoid the political system at all costs. I've been there for Wallace, Perot, Buchanan and I finally get it :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-12-01   14:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#411. To: Tauzero (#404)

Paul is not just another Republican, and for me the headline detracts from that.

Agreed.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-01   14:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#412. To: Tauzero (#407)

Is there a Doctor in the White House?

Veeerrrrry clever.

'I said "Doctor is there something I can take, I said Doctor to relieve this globalache".

www.youtube.com/watch? v=8IG7vu16Fug

angle  posted on  2007-12-01   14:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#413. To: Peppa (#408)

Hey Santa,

While your out there shaking your booty in the snow, How about ringing a bell for some 'looty'... :)

LOL

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-01   14:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#414. To: Tauzero (#404)

Paul is not just another Republican, and for me the headline detracts from that.

Totally agree...one of the detractions for many sound bite Americans.

angle  posted on  2007-12-01   14:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#415. To: Critter (#409)

RP is beyond the two party fraud. Why give it support.

Wonderful work, by the way.

angle  posted on  2007-12-01   14:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#416. To: angle, Jethro Tull (#414)

The more input Christine receives, the more choices to ensure she is coming up with the best.

If olde Jethro is going to pry loose some loot, guess I will have too also.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-01   14:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#417. To: Jethro Tull (#410)

Bless you Santa & Mrs. too.

I'll leave out some extra cookies on Christmas Eve! ;)

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   14:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#418. To: Tauzero (#404)

But why does it have to start off like every other Republican ad?

Maybe the RNC knows that it works, so that is why they use it? I have to assume that they spent about half a billion dollars studying what works. lol

And we are competing against them for the same potential voter.

It's like when I was trying to decide on a design for my window stickers and yard signs for my alarm business. I looked at the design of the nation's largest company, ADT, and said to myself, "Well if they can go with one color, blue, on a white background, why should I do anything fancier?" I should think they studied the issue long and hard before they settled for their design.

Change for Ron Paul

Critter  posted on  2007-12-01   14:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#419. To: angle (#415)

RP is beyond the two party fraud. Why give it support.

Anyone who knows that is already voting for RP.

We need to move the unlearned masses.

Change for Ron Paul

Critter  posted on  2007-12-01   14:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#420. To: christine (#380)

RP is the only republican who can beat hillary. i think that will resonate with GOP voters because that is their biggest fear.

Isn't it the dems that are the swing vote?

angle  posted on  2007-12-01   14:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#421. To: Critter (#419) (Edited)

to move the unlearned masses

yes, RP does that to people, doesn't he?

angle  posted on  2007-12-01   14:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#422. To: christine, critter (#380)

scare, fear

I don't think that's RP's message and I caution against that tactic.

angle  posted on  2007-12-01   14:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#423. To: Cynicom (#416)

If olde Jethro is going to pry loose some loot, guess I will have too also.

Bless you too Cyni.

It's getting time to get serious.

Freedom here is on borrowed time.

This time next year, we may never again have the chance to have our voices heard by such a candidate.

We probably won't have RP making another run in 4 or 8 years.

We may not even have elections.

Freedom comes with a price.

4um charges nothing for us to post here, and has never asked for a dime.

I think it's time, those able, chip in and stand up.

A vote for RP is a vote for yourself. It's an investment. It's not like throwing money down the toilet at TOS'S of old. For NOTHING.

This is for something bigger than us all.

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   14:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#424. To: angle (#422)

My two bits...

Ron Pauls platform is.."The Constitution"...

I admit I stole that from somewhere.

If he stands on the Constitution, how can anyone argue with that?

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-01   14:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#425. To: angle, hammerdown (#412)

'I said "Doctor is there something I can take, I said Doctor to relieve this globalache".

What a great parody that would make.

Hammerdown, we need a soundtrack. hehehe

Change for Ron Paul

Critter  posted on  2007-12-01   14:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#426. To: Cynicom (#424)

angle  posted on  2007-12-01   14:46:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#427. To: angle (#426)

That gave me chills!

I believe ! I believe ! LOL

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   14:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#428. To: Peppa, christine, robin, (#423)

I think it's time, those able, chip in and stand up.

Well, okay.

I dont want to be a freerider, I do spend time here most every day.

You dont kneecap people that hide their loot do you???

You know full well that conservatives sit on their wallets and their hearing goes South when you ask for money?

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-01   14:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#429. To: angle (#426)

Good heavens where did you get that????

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-01   14:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#430. To: Cynicom (#429)

Dees, his pics are great, and can be seen on rense.com as well as

www.deesillustration.com

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robin  posted on  2007-12-01   14:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#431. To: Cynicom (#428)

You dont kneecap people that hide their loot do you???

LOL! I don't think it's prudent to divulge my tactics. Actually, that was my tactic. I don't have a bag of them, pretty much just the one.

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   14:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#432. To: robin (#430)

robin

To do that one right would take a half page ad.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-01   14:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#433. To: Cynicom (#432)

and color, only color - but it belongs to David Dees.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-01   14:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#434. To: Peppa, robin, christine, All (#431)

Pep

It boils down to this other than Ron Paul we will have most likely Hillary.

To my mind with her comes this country's demise, a dictatorship if you will. Bush has set everything in place for her coronation.

For those that are enamored with their own station in life and cannot see beyond their bankbook, there is a huge surprise awaiting you.

This government and Hillary has great plans for everyone.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-01   15:03:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#435. To: robin (#430)

www.deesillustration.com

Wow! Fantastic!

Check the satire as well. Ouch!!

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   15:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#436. To: Cynicom (#434)

For those that are enamored with their own station in life and cannot see beyond their bankbook, there is a huge surprise awaiting you.

This government and Hillary has great plans for everyone.

The chance to choose, will no longer exist.

You must be registered with the correct party to vote for Ron Paul in states with CLOSED PRIMARIES.

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Peppa  posted on  2007-12-01   15:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#437. To: Critter, Tauzero, christine, robin, All (#409)

I guess what I am saying is that we have to figure out the best way to reach the people who don't already believe in Ron Paul.

I like the ad but there's a part of me that worries - like Tauzero and a few others do - that using the fear tactic against Hillary alone is not the full picture.

And are we certain that there are "numerous" polls that show RP beating Hillary?

The other "enemies" of America are the RINO's and NEOCONs.

Also the reference to the income tax thingie worries me in the sense that it's not a realistic goal for a Prez to accomplish or even set in motion. Ron Paul would not increase income taxes - that's for sure and that's what people would like to hear - but doing away with the IRS is a stretch - it almost makes him sound pie in the sky frivolous.

a. I think we could keep the are you scared of President Hillary in. But if we could also incorporate the fear of being betrayed by yet another RINO Neocon candidate that would speak to both concerns of GOP delegates...maybe in the text that follows in smaller print:

Or another RINO in the Oval Office?

then "Do those images scare you"

b. Also in the paragraph that follows, I'd say "We are asking you to vote for the only candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton in a general election and who will put America First and who will stay true to the Constitution.

c. On the left side of RP's photo I'd delete the income tax abolishment phrase and replace it with "Work to downsize government agencies" or something to that effect.

d. Also on the right side of his photo, I'd delete "never voted for an unbalanced budget" - kind of redundent to the other stuff you have about taxes.

Instead I'd put in "Is not beholden to any special interest lobby groups"

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-01   15:18:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#438. To: Peppa, robin, angle (#435)

If you like Dees; check this out...

'Horse' posted this the other day...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-12-01   15:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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