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Title: Protests, Arrests Greet Gonzales in Florida
Source: The BLT: The Blog of Legal Times
URL Source: http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2007/11/protests-arrest.html
Published: Nov 20, 2007
Author: Pedro Ruz Gutierrez (Gainesville Sun)
Post Date: 2007-11-20 14:56:21 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 227
Comments: 16

Protests, Arrests Greet Gonzales in Florida

The hecklers outnumbered supporters of former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales during his speech at the University of Florida last night.

Two protesters, dressed in bright orange garb with black hoods over their heads to resemble detainees at Guantanamo Bay, were arrested after they jumped on stage next to Gonzales, who quietly ignored them while police took them away.

Gonzales was then forced to wait several minutes for the crowd to quiet down before resuming his $40,000 speech. He tried to parlay the antagonism the best he could. "Our young men and women fight overseas to preserve these kinds of freedom of speech," he continued.

The orange-clad protesters were reportedly only the worst of it. Gonzales was harassed throughout his presentation before some 1,500 people in a campus auditorium and at times struggled to finish his sentences, according to The Gainesville Sun.

Posted by Pedro Ruz Gutierrez on November 20, 2007 at 12:43 PM

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Is this the same university where that student was tazed?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-20   14:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hecklers dog Gonzales

By JACK STRIPLING
Sun staff writer
12:45 am, November 20, 2007

Hounded by hecklers and protesters, former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales defended an admittedly imperfect record before a raucous University of Florida audience Monday night.

Gonzales devoted much of his speech to encouraging students to enter public service, despite the criticism that public officials like himself endure.

The fervency of that criticism was readily apparent as several protesters stood with their backs turned toward Gonzales throughout his speech, frequently interrupted him with calls of “liar” and “treason” and, in some cases, stormed the stage.

Two UF students, wearing black hoods over their heads and orange suits that resembled those worn by prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, hopped onto the stage next to Gonzales before they were arrested by UF Police. As the men were removed from the auditorium, Gonzales said, “Our young men and women fight overseas to preserve this kind of freedom of speech.”

In an audience of about 1,500 people at the Phillips Center for the Performing Arts, Gonzales had several dozen supporters who gave him standing ovations. But the former attorney general, who recently resigned from his post under a cloud of controversy, was challenged at times to even complete a sentence because of the disruption from his opponents.

Gonzales was appointed to the post of U.S. attorney general in 2005, becoming the nation's first Hispanic attorney general. President Bush has touted Gonzales' story, growing from the son of a Mexican farmer into the country's top cop, as an embodiment of the American dream.

“America is where dreams come true, and I love America for all she has done for me,” Gonzales said.

Gonzales was effusive in his praise of the United States as a land of strong principles of justice, but the hostile crowd that viewed Gonzales as a man who undermined those principles was quick to hiss any time Gonzales praised his country. When Gonzales said “name one country that does more to promote the rule of law,” he was met with laughter.

Gonzales, a longtime ally of President Bush, was perceived by his critics as an agent of Bush's agenda — regardless of whether that agenda coincided with the rule of law. Specifically, critics charged Gonzales was tolerant of torture and instrumental in politicizing the Justice Department.

In a question-and-answer session, handled by a moderator who read the questions from submitted cards, Gonzales was repeatedly asked about the controversies of his tenure. Asked about the firing of U.S. attorneys, which some charged were politically motivated, Gonzales acknowledged that the “process should have been handled in a different way.”

Gonzales defended the Bush administration's position that “enemy combatants” are not entitled to the provisions of the Geneva Convention that require humane treatment of prisoners of war. He maintained that the administration didn't condone torture, and yet Gonzales acknowledged that “occasionally things happen in war that should not happen.”

Gonzales dismissed critics, however, who have equated U.S. interrogation techniques with those who would do harm to Americans.

“We're not in the same universe as our enemies,” he said.

Gonzales' speech was sponsored by Accent, the UF student-run speakers bureau. He was paid $40,000 for his appearance.

The two UF students who rushed the stage, identified as Richard Gutierrez and Kevin Hachey, were arrested by UF Police for disrupting a public event — a misdemeanor. Lt. Stacy Ettel of the UF Police Department said the police only arrested those who rushed the stage — not those who heckled — because they posed a potential threat to Gonzales.

Four uniformed UF officers were stationed at the venue, but more undercover officers were also present, Ettel said.

Here's the text of the Gainsville Sun article.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-20   14:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

One and the same....

GA INESVILLE - U.S. Sen. John Kerry's speech at the University of Florida came to a dramatic close Monday, shortly after a vocal audience member was hauled off by police and shot with a Taser gun.[Snip]

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-11-20   15:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Former AG Gonzales Speaks at U. of Fla.

By RON WORD – 14 hours ago

GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) — Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales endured screams of "criminal" and "liar" during a speech at the University of Florida on Monday evening.

About 730 students and community members listened to Gonzales defend his career as White House counsel and head of the Justice Department. He also spoke about immigration and terrorism.

"No one is perfect. What is important is that we identify our mistakes and correct them," he said.

Gonzales' appearance was the first by a high-profile speaker at the university since a student was Tasered on Sept. 17 at a speech by Sen. John Kerry. An investigation found that campus police acted appropriately, and charges were dropped against the student.

Gonzales resigned earlier this fall in the face of an uproar on Capitol Hill over the dismissals of a slew of federal prosecutors and in connection with the administration's warrantless wiretap program.

Early in his speech, two people climbed on the stage in hoods. Gonzales stopped talking for a few minutes as police led them away without incident, though there were several outbursts from the crowd.

The hooded demonstrators were charged with interruption of a public event, said Steve Orlando, a university spokesman. Several other people were ejected for yelling, and more than a dozen people stood for most of Gonzeles' hour-long speech with their backs toward him.

Gonzales repeatedly defended the Bush administration's treatment of foreign prisoners.

"We don't condone torture," he said.

Students were not allowed to ask questions directly, as they were at the Kerry event. Instead questions were submitted and read by a university law professor. One question asked about Gonzales' views on immigration.

"Because of 9-11, we have to get this right. We have to know who is in this country," he said.

Gonzales also said it was perfectly appropriate to replace U.S. attorneys, because they are political appointees.

University officials said it was Gonzales' first appearance at a university since he left office in late August. He was paid $40,000 for his speech.

A few protesters carried signs protesting the appearance.

"It is abhorrent that they would spend that amount of money. This man is a criminal," said Glenda Allen, of Jacksonville.

Associated Press answers my question. It was the same university. (Only this time they didn't allow the students to question the speaker.)

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-20   15:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Two protesters, dressed in bright orange garb with black hoods over their heads to resemble detainees at Guantanamo Bay, were arrested after they jumped on stage next to Gonzales, who quietly ignored them while police took them away.

Later, when Gonzales met one of the protesters at the cop-shop, he was quoted as saying "I'm going to taze you, bro'". Screams were later heard emanating from the holding cell.....

;-)

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X-15  posted on  2007-11-20   15:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hahahahaha. The should've burned him in effigy. That woulda put the fear of god into him. Snivelin coward liar.

angle  posted on  2007-11-20   15:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He was paid $40,000 for his speech.

Boycott University of Florida bump.

angle  posted on  2007-11-20   15:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He was paid $40,000 for his speech.

I read on the AMERICAblog forum that the money came out of the university's student affairs budget -- whereas Kerry spoke for free.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-20   15:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"We don't condone torture," he said.

We don't specifically condone it, but what the hey, if it happenes, they're criminals anyway, right? And, waterboarding and electric shock connected to one's balls is not torture, according to our read of the human rights clause.

angle  posted on  2007-11-20   15:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

One question asked about Gonzales' views on immigration.

"Because of 9-11, we have to get this right. We have to know who is in this country," he said.

I'm sick and tired of this 9-11 song and dance.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-11-20   15:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Gonzales also said it was perfectly appropriate to replace U.S. attorneys, because they are political appointees.

Then why did they try to hide the replacements from the public eye?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-11-20   15:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

did they try to hide the replacements from the public eye?

No meaningful questions or you'll be saying "Don't tase me bro."

angle  posted on  2007-11-20   15:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No meaningful questions or you'll be saying "Don't tase me bro."

Well examples must be made, after all comrade.

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robin  posted on  2007-11-20   15:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

“We're not in the same universe as our enemies,” he said.

Well, the bastard got that right! So far, we're the only nation on earth that deemed it appropriate to use nuclear bombs against humanity.

rowdee  posted on  2007-11-20   15:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Gonzales had several dozen supporters who gave him standing ovations

They must have done really, really well in arts and crafts this week, so their warders took them on a field trip.

$40K, which is the average household income in the United States, the amount a family of four makes in a YEAR, to this criminal? How can the university justify this?

Honi soit qui mal y pense

Mekons4  posted on  2007-11-20   16:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

When Gonzales said “name one country that does more to promote the rule of law,” he was met with laughter.

Good job, kids.

Thank you!

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Lod  posted on  2007-11-20   16:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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