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Title: Ron Paul isn't that scary (It's that over-do-gooder Mike Huckabee who should be making conservatives nervous.)
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URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion ... lumn?coll=la-opinion-rightrail
Published: Nov 20, 2007
Author: Jonah Goldberg
Post Date: 2007-11-20 21:35:16 by FOH
Keywords: Ron Paul, Mike Jokabee, NeoCons Suck
Views: 351
Comments: 30
As the hopeless but energetic presidential campaign of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) builds momentum in name recognition, fundraising and cross-ideology appeal, media conservatives are beginning to attack Paul in earnest. Republican consultant David Hill condemns the candidate's "increasingly leftish" positions. Syndicated columnist Mona Charen calls Paul "too cozy with kooks and conspiracy theorists." Film critic and talk radio host Michael Medved looks over Paul's supporters and finds "an imposing collection of neo-Nazis, white Supremacists, Holocaust deniers, 9/11 'truthers' and other paranoid and discredited conspiracists." For the most part, these allegations strike me as overblown and unfair. But, for argument's sake, let's say they're not. Let's even say that Paul has the passionate support of the Legion of Doom, that his campaign lunchroom looks like the "Star Wars" cantina, and that many of his top advisors actually have hooves. Well, I would still find him less scary than Mike Huckabee. While many are marveling at Paul's striking success at breaking out of the tinfoil-hat ghetto, Huckabee's story is even more remarkable. The former Arkansas governor and Baptist minister is polling in second place in Iowa and could conceivably win there. He's still a long shot to take the nomination and a pipe dream to take the presidency, but Huckabee matters in a way that Paul still doesn't. One small indicator of Huckabee's relevance: His opponents in the presidential race are attacking him while the field is ignoring Paul like an eccentric who sits too close to you on the bus. So what's so scary about Huckabee? Personally, nothing. By all accounts, he's a charming, decent, friendly, pious man. What's troubling about The Man From Hope 2.0 is what he represents. Huckabee represents compassionate conservatism on steroids. A devout social conservative on issues such as abortion, school prayer, homosexuality and evolution, Huckabee is a populist on economics, a fad-follower on the environment and an all-around do-gooder who believes that the biblical obligation to do "good works" extends to using government -- and your tax dollars -- to bring us closer to the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. For example, Huckabee has indicated he would support a nationwide federal ban on public smoking. Why? Because he's on a health kick, thinks smoking is bad and believes the government should do the right thing. And therein lies the chief difference between Paul and Huckabee. One is a culturally conservative libertarian. The other is a right-wing progressive. Whatever the faults of the man and his friends may or may not be, Paul's dogma generally renders them irrelevant. He is a true ideologue in that his personal preferences are secondary to his philosophical principles. When asked what his position is, he generally responds that his position can be deduced from the text of the Constitution. Of course, that's not as dispositive as he thinks it is. But you get the point. As for Huckabee -- as with most politicians, alas -- his personal preferences matter enormously because ultimately they're the only thing that can be relied on to constrain him. In this respect, Huckabee's philosophy is conventionally liberal, or progressive. What he wants to do with government certainly differs in important respects from what Hillary Clinton would do, but the limits he would place on governmental do-goodery are primarily tactical or practical, not philosophical or constitutional. This isn't to say he -- or Hillary -- is a would-be tyrant, but simply to note that the progressive notion of the state as a loving, caring parent is becoming a bipartisan affair. Indeed, Huckabee represents the latest attempt to make conservatism more popular by jettisoning the unpopular bits. Contrary to the conventional belief that Republicans need to drop their opposition to abortion, gay marriage and the like in order to be popular, Huckabee understands that the unpopular stuff is the economic libertarianism: free trade and smaller government. That's why we're seeing a rise in economic populism on the right coupled with a culturally conservative populism. Huckabee is the bastard child of Lou Dobbs and Pat Robertson. Historically, the conservative movement benefited from the tension between libertarianism and cultural traditionalism. This tension -- and the effort to reconcile it under the name "fusionism" -- has been mischaracterized as a battle between right-wing factions when it is a conflict that runs through the heart of individual conservatives. We all have little Mike Huckabees and Ron Pauls sitting on our shoulders. Neither is always right, but both should be listened to. I would not vote for Paul mostly because I think his foreign policy would be disastrous (and because he'd lose in a rout not seen since Bambi versus Godzilla). But there's something weird going on when Paul, the small-government constitutionalist, is considered the extremist in the Republican Party while Huckabee, the statist, is the lovable underdog. It's even weirder because it's probably true: Huckabee is much closer to the mainstream. And that's what scares me about Huckabee and the mainstream alike. Poster Comment: Could care less for JGberg, however thought this was interesting considering what a TOTAL FRaud Mike Jokabee the OBL-NeoCon is...
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#1. To: FOH (#0)
That's also why the Republican Party is headed down the crapper for a long time to come. All most likely by design, of course. Man, these Bots are so dumb, but hey, they get what they deserve.
The 31%ers, egged on by their RAT/RINO friends, have destroyed the GOP. Ron Paul is the GOP's (and America's) last hope... What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Actually, we all get what these RATs/RINOs deserve...sadly.
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
And therein lies the chief difference between Paul and Huckabee. One is a culturally conservative libertarian. The other is a right-wing progressive. Whatever the faults of the man and his friends may or may not be, Paul's dogma generally renders them irrelevant. He is a true ideologue in that his personal preferences are secondary to his philosophical principles. When asked what his position is, he generally responds that his position can be deduced from the text of the Constitution. Of course, that's not as dispositive as he thinks it is. But you get the point. As for Huckabee -- as with most politicians, alas -- his personal preferences matter enormously because ultimately they're the only thing that can be relied on to constrain him. A major point of discussion on Scarborough this morning. Smoking is bad. Therefore Ron Paul is bad. Huckabee good. That such does not fall within the Constitution relegates Paul as irrelevant. Huck is working for the greater good. I only mention this, as Goldbergs article, was included as a POINT of discussion, therefore smear, at the 'coffee table' this morning. Perhaps a plug for Baby Huey and a RP smear was too lucrative to pass up.
I laugh at the Ron Paul smeareotypes...
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
More to come, no doubt.
Didn't Chuck Norris AND Ted Nugent endorse Huckabee?? What would a stage full of those chuckleheads be like???
"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." James Madison
The interesting thing is how intent the supporters of the current establishment were to alienate the small government, civil liberty, and paleo factions of the GOP. It was such an unmistakably clear and heartfelt message that it compels us to ask why a similar level of determination is never displayed against the opposing party. Why were the GOP elites so ruthless against its own, when it never displays anything remotely approaching that level of competitiveness against the Democrats?
because the GOP's elites own is, in reality, the DEM elites. they're puppets for the same masters. the competition is not with each other, but rather with 'we the people' and America's sovereignty. they're all CFR NWO.
That's pretty much the only explanation that is consistent with the evidence. The two parties are really just one party, and those that don't agree with The Agenda get pushed off into electoral oblivion, whether left or right.
One answer. They are playing on the same team. That is the ONLY answer. I've asked it, as you have, a hundred ways. And there is only one true answer. When they have a clear shot to serve the American will, they defer to their owners. Which means. They only hear their masters voice. What really matters, that they perpetuate the fraud, as cheaply as possible.
More to come, no doubt. Along with MUCH GREATER LOLOL I might add...heeeheeeheee
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Sie haben sich zum Geist des dritten reich ergeben.
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
My sincere and righteous America-lover...my friend, you have pinned the 'tail' on the 'donkey'. What now?
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Who are you, what do/did you know and WHEN did you know it!? heheheh I believe you're incredible but I only have proof as of this point...
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Why don't we raise ONE HUNDRED MILLION RIGHT NOW and BLOW the Establishment's mind? Run 30 minute and 60 minute Ron Paul 'fireside chats' round the clock in key areas...with LIVE, UNENCUMBERED Q&A. ?????? Wouldn't that take this over their heads, straight to We The People?
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
That's pretty harsh! ROFL!!!!
"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." James Madison
Are you implying they COULD be in their right mind? lolol Series...
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
[chills]
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Fox Van with Ron Paul Bumper Stickers
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/48/ cnn-reports-ron-paul-in-4th-place-for-republican-nomination Press Releases › CNN Reports Ron Paul in 4th Place For Republican Nomination November 20, 2007 10:46 am EST ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA—Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul’s support is rising in New Hampshire, according to a CNN/WMUR poll released Monday. The 10-term Texas congressman and onetime GOP “longshot” has surpassed former frontrunner Fred Thompson, who is now in sixth place, to claim fourth place in the Republican presidential field with eight percent. Congressman Paul’s support in the Granite State has doubled since polling at four percent in September. The CNN/WMUR poll also indicates that 56 percent of likely Republican voters surveyed were still undecided. “By all metrics, Dr. Paul’s support is rising exponentially,” said Paul campaign spokesman Jesse Benton. “From fundraising records and straw poll victories to landline telephone polling, Dr. Paul’s message of freedom, peace, and prosperity is gaining ground in New Hampshire and nationwide.” Three opinion polls released last week by CBS/New York Times, Boston Globe/University of New Hampshire, and the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion confirm Dr. Paul’s rising in the polls. The CNN/WMUR poll was conducted among likely New Hampshire Republican voters between November 14 and 18.
Goldberg is his usual stupid self. Huckabee supports amnesty for illegal aliens. How the Hell does that make him a "bastard child of Lou Dobbs?" I'm sure that Goldberg and his fellow neoconservatives won't have a single bad word to say about Giuliani, who is more "liberal" than Huckabee on just about everything.
I just saw that "pro wrestler" Ric Flair has endorsed Huckabee. Here is the short list of his high-profile endorsements: Chuck Norris, Ted Nugent, Zig Ziglar, Ric Flair, Star Parker, Donald Wildmon. The REAL kook-parade is the Huckabee circus.
"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." James Madison
But there's something weird going on when Paul, the small-government constitutionalist, is considered the extremist in the Republican Party while Huckabee, the statist, is the lovable underdog. It's even weirder because it's probably true: Huckabee is much closer to the mainstream. And that's what scares me about Huckabee and the mainstream alike.
#2. To: Vitamin Z (#1)
That's also why the Republican Party is headed down the crapper for a long time to come. All most likely by design, of course.
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#3. To: Vitamin Z (#1)
Man, these Bots are so dumb, but hey, they get what they deserve.
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#4. To: FOH (#0)
For example, Huckabee has indicated he would support a nationwide federal ban on public smoking. Why? Because he's on a health kick, thinks smoking is bad and believes the government should do the right thing.
#5. To: Peppa (#4)
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#6. To: FOH (#5)
I laugh at the Ron Paul smeareotypes...
#7. To: FOH (#0)
#8. To: FOH (#2)
The 31%ers, egged on by their RAT/RINO friends, have destroyed the GOP.
#9. To: thoughtomator (#8)
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Why were the GOP elites so ruthless against its own, when it never displays anything remotely approaching that level of competitiveness against the Democrats?
#10. To: christine (#9)
#11. To: thoughtomator (#8)
was such an unmistakably clear and heartfelt message that it compels us to ask why a similar level of determination is never displayed against the opposing party. Why were the GOP elites so ruthless against its own, when it never displays anything remotely approaching that level of competitiveness against the Democrats?
#12. To: Peppa (#6)
I laugh at the Ron Paul smeareotypes...
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#13. To: X-15 (#7)
Didn't Chuck Norris AND Ted Nugent endorse Huckabee?? What would a stage full of those chuckleheads be like???
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#14. To: thoughtomator (#8)
The interesting thing is how intent the supporters of the current establishment were to alienate the small government, civil liberty, and paleo factions of the GOP. It was such an unmistakably clear and heartfelt message that it compels us to ask why a similar level of determination is never displayed against the opposing party. Why were the GOP elites so ruthless against its own, when it never displays anything remotely approaching that level of competitiveness against the Democrats?
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#15. To: christine (#9)
because the GOP's elites own is, in reality, the DEM elites. they're puppets for the same masters. the competition is not with each other, but rather with 'we the people' and America's sovereignty. they're all CFR NWO.
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#16. To: thoughtomator (#10)
That's pretty much the only explanation that is consistent with the evidence. The two parties are really just one party, and those that don't agree with The Agenda get pushed off into electoral oblivion, whether left or right.
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
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#19. To: X-15 (#17)
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#20. To: TwentyTwelve (#18)
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
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#29. To: FOH (#0)
(Edited)
Huckabee is the bastard child of Lou Dobbs and Pat Robertson.
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