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Title: John Bolton On Hardball: “I’m Not A Neoconservative”
Source: Crooks and Liars
URL Source: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/ ... ball-im-not-a-neoconservative/
Published: Nov 22, 2007
Author: Hardball
Post Date: 2007-11-22 07:32:25 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 1628
Comments: 18

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On Wednesday’s Hardball Chris Matthews talked with right wing warmonger and former U.N. Ambassador, John Bolton, and Middle East expert, Jo-Anne Hart, about a possible U.S. invasion of Iran. Matthews is normally all over the place, but in this segment he seemed to be focused and somewhat grounded in reality.

Bolton blathers on about the need to attack Iran before they achieve nuclear capability, even going so far as to say he didn’t think the citizens of Iran would be angry at the U.S. if we started dropping bombs inside their country — for which Matthews, thankfully, calls him out. When Matthews calls him a Neoconservative, Bolton points his finger at him and sternly denies it. No, Mr. Bolton isn’t a Neocon — he just thinks, talks and acts like one. It seems the term Neocon has finally become a dirty word in American society…

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

It seems the term Neocon has finally become a dirty word in American society…

A million dead, three million displaced and homeless, trillions of $$$ in debt, collapsing $$$$ and Neocon is getting a bit tarnished.

By the way, how bout that new Brittany video??

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tom007  posted on  2007-11-22   10:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah, burkeman1 (#0) (Edited)

I heard an interview of Bolton on C-SPAN a couple of weeks back in which he claimed to be a follower of Edmund Burke. That he ain't.

He's a lot more like the ideologues in charge of the French Revolution whom Burke condemned.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-22   10:37:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

When Matthews calls him a Neoconservative, Bolton points his finger at him and sternly denies it.

If Warrior Bolton said he was not a man I would at least agree some checking might be necessary. When he says he is not a neocon, that strains credibility to the limit.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-22   10:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#2)

Was he not a founding member of PNAC?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   10:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#3)

LOL!~

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   10:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#1)

A million dead, three million displaced and homeless, trillions of $$$ in debt, collapsing $$$$ and Neocon is getting a bit tarnished.

they should be in disgrace rather than being paraded across the TV screen.. yeah and the American people are totally oblivious..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   10:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#5)

LOL!~

Not funny. Dont laugh. You might be assigned to do the checking. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-22   10:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#4) (Edited)

Bolton is involved with a broad assortment of conservative think tanks and policy institutes, including the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), Project for the New American Century (PNAC), Institute of East-West Dynamics, National Rifle Association, US Commission on International Religious Freedom, and the Council for National Policy (CNP).

From the Wikipedia entry on John Bolton.

According to the Wikipedia entry on PNAC, Bolton signed the notorious PNAC letter to Bill Clinton in 1998.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-22   11:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: aristeides (#8)

..yeah.. it looks like a duck ..quacks like a duck..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   11:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#9)

Actually Bolton does have some wiggle room.

Perhaps he would prefer the label of "Trotskyite", we could all agree on that with no checking by Zip.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-22   11:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

Perhaps he would prefer the label of "Trotskyite"

Damned commies :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   11:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Zipporah (#0)

When Matthews calls him a Neoconservative, Bolton points his finger at him and sternly denies it. No, Mr. Bolton isn’t a Neocon — he just thinks, talks and acts like one. It seems the term Neocon has finally become a dirty word in American society…

Nah.........ain't gonna put my thoughts down in writing. Ain't gonna do it. Nope. Nosirreee. Just can't. No way. No how.

Instead, y'all can just let the vilest of images cross your mind, and you may get a glimpse as to my opinion/feelings regarding this toupee-headed mucker.

rowdee  posted on  2007-11-22   11:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zipporah (#0)

Bolton may not be a neocon, at least by his lights, but he is a coward.

I was listening to him on NPR last week, and he said he did not fight in Vietnam because he knew the war was lost, and his father "agreed with me." Maybe cowardice is genetic and runs in families?

Using his logic, since the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were lost before we went in, Bolton would have to support anyone who refuses to go. That includes if we invade Iran, since that is also already lost before we start it.

Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-11-22   11:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zipporah (#0)

It seems the term Neocon has finally become a dirty word in American society…

That's a step in the right direction. But as long as people can weasel their way through politics by saying "I'm not a neocon," it's not enough to just make neocon a dirty word. We have to also make sure that people with neoconservative views are thought of as dirty people.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-22   14:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: YertleTurtle (#13)

I was listening to him on NPR last week, and he said he did not fight in Vietnam because he knew the war was lost, and his father "agreed with me." Maybe cowardice is genetic and runs in families?

How I hate ChickenHawks!

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robin  posted on  2007-11-22   14:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Zipporah (#0)

John Bolton On Hardball: “I’m Not A Neoconservative”

He just has a wide stance.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-11-22   17:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Zipporah (#0)

The U.N HATED John Bolton because he stuck his middle finger in their socialist faces. At least he stood up the the 2nd Amendment at the U.N.:

.N. CONFERENCE ON "SMALL ARMS" OPENS WITH STRONG WARNING FROM U.S. The "U.N. Conference on the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons" began Monday, and John R. Bolton, the U.S. Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs, soon made it perfectly clear that the United States would not support any proposal that threatened our Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Bolton reminded the U.N. about our Bill of Rights, stating, "As U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft has said, ‘just as the First and Fourth Amendments secure individual rights of speech and security respectively, the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms.`" He went on to explain, "The United States believes that the responsible use of firearms is a legitimate aspect of national life," and further stated, "The United States will not join consensus on a final document that contains measures abrogating the Constitutional right to bear arms." The conference has been touted by U.N. officials as an effort to try to curtail the "illicit trade in small arms," but the draft "Program of Action" clearly seeks to go well beyond the scope of shutting down the international black market in military and light weapons. Undersecretary Bolton told the U.N., "The abstract goals and objectives of this Conference are laudable. Attacking the global illicit trade in small arms and light weapons (SA/LW) is an important initiative which the international community should, indeed must, address because...[t]he illicit trade in SA/LW can be used to exacerbate conflict, threaten civilian populations in regions of conflict, endanger the work of peacekeeping forces and humanitarian aid workers, and greatly complicate the hard work of economically and politically rebuilding war-torn societies." Bolton also pointed out, "The United States goes to great lengths to ensure that small arms and light weapons transferred under our jurisdiction are done so with the utmost responsibility...[and] we offer our financial and technical assistance all over the world to mitigate the illicit trade in SA/LW." But Under Secretary Bolton also explained that the U.S. does not support several aspects of the draft "Program of Action," including measures that would restrict the legal manufacture and transfer of firearms, prohibitions against the civilian possession of firearms, and the promotion of "international advocacy activity" that could directly conflict with the views of certain countries. The opposition to this "advocacy activity" was clearly intended to show that the U.S. objects to the idea of U.N.-supported international anti-gun organizations promoting propaganda attacks on our Second Amendment. Bolton`s message was met with hostility by representatives of other nations seeking far more comprehensive restrictions on not only trade in firearms but civilian possession across the globe.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." James Madison

X-15  posted on  2007-11-28   1:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: X-15 (#17)

Everyone hates John Bolton because he is a warmongering ChickenHawk.

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robin  posted on  2007-11-28   4:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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