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Title: Watching The Train Wreck
Source: 4um
URL Source: [None]
Published: Nov 22, 2007
Author: Original_Intent
Post Date: 2007-11-22 18:16:17 by Original_Intent
Keywords: None
Views: 2501
Comments: 64

Having been banned from Liberty Post hasn't stopped me from visiting occaisionally, watching the animals feed, and being alternately saddened and amused. Thus the title of this thread as watching what is occurring is like watching a Train running into a Sewer.

With some of their chief opponents gone the 'bots and shills seem to be redoubling their efforts to load El Pee down with various types of noxious effluvium. A quick look at the "topics" under discussion, now that only anti-Ron Paul Threads are allowed, reads like a pornucopia of Spin, Disinformation, and more Spin. While some of the titles seem superficially interesting when one deals with the substance of the debates there is largely no substance. What you see is the various, 'bots, shills, and paid spin artists dominating and presenting only the "approved" Party Lyin', engaging in incivility and flame, and providing a degree of substance that would not be out of place on a Third Grade Playground. Yukon is there with the usual Party Lyin' and personal attacks, 'botshiller is present and accounted for posting anti-freedom pro-Israel Spam - again no substance just vituperation. All working together to turn El Pee into even more of a sewer of hate, disinformation, and vacuity.

Of course there are still a few decent people there trying to hold ground agains the various disinformation artistes' but largely they are making the mistake of trying to simply convince the 'bots to see reason. Agenda Posters, and paid shills, could care less about reason. It is not part of their mandate. They are there to "catapult the propaganda" and to PREVENT substantive reasoned debate. Evidently Goldi-Pox approves as primarily the only people she has banned were people standing up on principle and presenting reasoned arguments (of course since those arguments addressed the reasons for her imposition of censorship she did find them discomfiting, but she lacks the courage and integrity to address them forthrightly).

I really should thank Goldi-Pox for banning me and getting me out of her private sewer. She is quite welcome to wallow in the filth. I guess it takes all kinds although their reason for existence does sometimes seem elusive.

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#1. To: TwentyTwelve, Pinguinite, Wudidiz, All (#0)

))))))Pinggggggggggggggggggg!(((((((

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   18:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#0)

I really should thank Goldi-Pox for banning me and getting me out of her private sewer. She is quite welcome to wallow in the filth.

Oh so this is what you're giving thanks for on Thanksgiving?! :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   18:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#0)

like a pornucopia

"Pornucopia" ... good one!

I'm going to steal that, at the right time ...

- - - - - - - - - - -
Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. -- H. L. Mencken

Enderby  posted on  2007-11-22   18:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Enderby (#3)

hey Enderby..how was your Thanksgiving?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   18:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Enderby (#3)

Please feel free with my blessing.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   18:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#2) (Edited)

No, setting around while I wait for things to cook and then spring into action.

What this little rant/diatribe was inspired by was a visit to El Pee while I taking a break from cooking, and it just struck me, after visiting a few threads where I found the topic of interest, from reading the commentary and posts of the various people just how hostile Liberty Post is to intelligent and reasoned discourse. It was alternately maddening and saddening. So much potential, so wasted. As well, while I am not bitter about it, observing who gets banned and who doesn't says much about Goldi and the kind of forum El Pee is increasingly morphing into. It is not a pretty scene. It is a hostile battleground in opposition to rational and reasoned discourse, and one must assume that is what she wants because that IS what she is creating.

And besides, since she visits here whether she will admit it or not, I couldn't resist needling her a little bit to stimulate her atrophied sense of decency.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   18:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#6)

and it just struck me, after visiting a few threads where I found the topic of interest, from reading the commentary and posts of the various people just how hostile Liberty Post is to intelligent and reasoned discourse.

Not trying to be disrespectful, but that's exactly what many of us learned from FreeRepublic about a week after 911.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-22   18:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#6)

I was just teasing you a bit... but I do understand what youre saying.. Ive seen several forums change into something that isnt recognizable from their beginnings.. Ive never been banned.. not that its something to be proud or not proud of.. just saw the writing on the wall and made an exit.

Happy Thanksgiving and God bless.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   18:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah, Original_Intent (#8)

Ive seen several forums change into something that isnt recognizable from their beginnings.

I've got to say that it can't all be by accident.

buckeye  posted on  2007-11-22   18:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeye (#9)

I've got to say that it can't all be by accident.

I absolutely agree.. eliminate those who's views arent in alignment ..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   18:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#8)

Happy Thanksgiving and God bless.

To You and Yours as well.

Ive never been banned.. not that its something to be proud or not proud of..

Having gauged Goldi's character I expected that the likelyhood of being banned being high so it did not bother me all that much - other than the annoyance of being silenced. There are just some occasions when you must make a stand regardless if only to preserve your own self respect. In the end I won because Goldi took an action which I know she knows to have been wrong. It is she that will suffer the affects long after I have forgotten her. Besides, Ron Paul is gaining ever more momentum despite the attempt to silence his message. That has just got to frost her Golden Heart (yellow and hard).

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   18:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#0)

hile some of the titles seem superficially interesting when one deals with the substance of the debates there is largely no substance. What you see is the various, 'bots, shills, and paid spin artists dominating and presenting only the "approved" Party Lyin', engaging in incivility and flame, and providing a degree of substance that would not be out of place on a Third Grade Playground.

A sizable percentage of the commentary on LP is general incivility or nonsense one-liners that just takes up space. That is definitely different from here where a much higher percentage of postings have meaningful content.

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-11-22   19:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#11)

Ron Paul is gaining ever more momentum despite the attempt to silence his message

Yes and it's the message.. freedom and hope ..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-22   19:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#11)

$9,085,700

Kick Ass!

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-22   19:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Pinguinite (#12)

A sizable percentage of the commentary on LP is general incivility or nonsense one-liners that just takes up space. That is definitely different from here where a much higher percentage of postings have meaningful content.

It is night and day. While not everyone here is always a gut liddle boy or girl the total atmosphere is so different that it is like the difference between a Dockside Bar and a Library; you do not have the nonstop barrage of disruption from the likes of a Ucon, a botshiller, byeti's-son, RLKKK, Gomer, Pudboy Thick, etc., ...

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   19:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Zipporah, Original_Intent (#13)

Yes and it's the message.. freedom and hope ..

Americans hate losers. Bush and the CFR have lost again and again, from Korea to Vietnam, to Iraq. And much more than pitched battles have been lost: our original liberties have been stripped from us.

Americans are going to love Ron Paul's optimism. He's fearless, and that's what they want to be as well.

buckeye  posted on  2007-11-22   19:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All (#14)

9,025,900

my bad,sorry

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-22   19:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeye (#16)

Americans hate losers.

Fuck you, I'm an American, and I love almost everyone! :)

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-22   19:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent, ALL (#0)

effluvium

vituperation

...it takes all kinds although their reason for existence does sometimes seem elusive.

"They must find it difficult... Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." ~ Gerald Massey

wudidiz  posted on  2007-11-22   19:32:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Dakmar (#18)

Heh.

buckeye  posted on  2007-11-22   19:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: wudidiz. all (#19)

CCR - Who'll Stop the Rain?

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-22   19:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#6)

...atrophied sense of decency.

I ain't touchin' that one.

"They must find it difficult... Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." ~ Gerald Massey

wudidiz  posted on  2007-11-22   19:38:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lodwick (#21)

Nice vid. It obviously starts at home, here — just like that Chinese man in front of the tank. We have to stop the rain here, because it's coming home to us now. Bush proved that when he signed the Patriot Acts, and when he started calling the Minute Men vigilantes.

buckeye  posted on  2007-11-22   19:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#15)

RLKKK

You want to talk about someone who's changed over the years, that would be RLKK. He was laid off from his engineering job four or five years ago and it has turned him into a bitter old man filled with hate. He's a pathetic little man.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-11-22   19:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeye (#23)

A disturbing video that dovetails with your reply -

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-22   19:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lodwick, *Music Club* (#21)

Down There by the Train

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-22   19:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lodwick, ALL (#21)

Who'll stop the rain?

...Each of us...

Beautiful, thank you.

"They must find it difficult... Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." ~ Gerald Massey

wudidiz  posted on  2007-11-22   19:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lodwick (#21)

“Redemption”
Johnny Cash

From the hands it came down
From the side it came down
From the feet it came down
And ran to the ground
Between heaven and hell

A teardrop fell
In the deep crimson dew
The tree of life grew

And the blood gave life
To the branches of the tree
And the blood was the price
That set the captives free
And the numbers that came

Through the fire and the flood
Clung to the tree
And were redeemed by the blood

From the tree streamed a light
That started the fight
‘Round the tree grew a vine
On whose fruit I could dine
My old friend Lucifer came

Fought to keep me in chains
But I saw through the tricks
Of six-sixty-six

And the blood gave life
To the branches of the tree
And the blood was the price
That set the captives free
And the numbers that came

Through the fire and the flood
Clung to the tree
And were redeemed by the blood

From his hands it came down
From his side it came down
From his feet it came down
And ran to the ground
And a small inner voice

Said “You do have a choice.”
The vine engrafted me
And I clung to the tree

And the blood gave life
To the branches of the tree
And the blood was the price
That set the captives free
And with the numbers that came

Through the fire and the flood
I clung to the tree
And was redeemed by the blood

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-22   19:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Dakmar (#26)

What a beautiful spiritual - thank you.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-11-22   19:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Dakmar, FormerLurker (#7) (Edited)

and it just struck me, after visiting a few threads where I found the topic of interest, from reading the commentary and posts of the various people just how hostile Liberty Post is to intelligent and reasoned discourse.

Not trying to be disrespectful, but that's exactly what many of us learned from FreeRepublic about a week after 911.

Oh, that's fine. However, I did not start posting anywhere until after 911. I think it was the obviousness of the fact that the only thing that accounted for all of the evidence was "inside job".

Since then I've been wised up just a tad. El Pee has had some ups and downs, but until recently it was pretty much a free speech forum and I enjoyed making monkeys out of the 'bots and using them to make my own points while underscoring the ridiculousness of the Party Lyin'. However, the current scene at Liberty Post is degenerating even further into a 1984 type forum. With the banning of myself and 2012 the balance has been tilted in favor of the 'bots. I suspect that either Goldi is going schizoid, has been dishonest for some time, or both.

My only amusement is that I lasted as long as I did without Goldi finding some pretext to get rid of me.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   20:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#30)

I enjoyed making monkeys out of the 'bots and using them to make my own points while underscoring the ridiculousness of the Party Lyin'.

It is fun.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-22   20:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Original_Intent (#30)

At the pace I'm on, I'll be completely detoxed of PLP by New Year...

What North American Union?

Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!

Tea Party '07

Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2007-11-22   20:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Original_Intent (#0)

One big difference between LP and this site is that although there were plenty of 9/11 threads there, it apparently was always bickering, with the skeptics there being rather lame, juvenile and otherwise clonish, eager to bring all sorts of non-9/11 issues into it. Lots of disinfo repeats like "the pentagon plane couldn't turn that sharp without pulling six gees of force" -- ridiculous crap like that.

This site has, in contrast, some highly detailed discussions of the 9/11 physical record, the physics of the collapsees and such.

nobody  posted on  2007-11-22   20:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Hayek Fan (#24)

You want to talk about someone who's changed over the years, that would be RLKK. He was laid off from his engineering job four or five years ago and it has turned him into a bitter old man filled with hate. He's a pathetic little man.

Sad. Some people are tempered by adversity and others become brittle.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   20:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: nobody, christine, Zipporah, robin (#33)

With the exception of a couple goobs kept here for laughs, I see no reason to give corporate post-America another outlet.

If this were my site I wouldn't run it any differently. Except into the ground through lackadaisical indifference to everyday affairs, but that's a topic best left somewhere else.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-22   20:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Dakmar (#31)

It is fun.

That it are.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   20:39:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FOH (#32)

At the pace I'm on, I'll be completely detoxed of PLP by New Year...

Cheers!

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   20:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nobody (#33)

One big difference between LP and this site is that although there were plenty of 9/11 threads there, it apparently was always bickering, with the skeptics there being rather lame, juvenile and otherwise clonish, eager to bring all sorts of non-9/11 issues into it. Lots of disinfo repeats like "the pentagon plane couldn't turn that sharp without pulling six gees of force" -- ridiculous crap like that.

This site has, in contrast, some highly detailed discussions of the 9/11 physical record, the physics of the collapsees and such.

Yes, yuktard and Beachooser were both big Official Disinfo Lyin' advocates. The one advantage to that though is that it does make you examine your arguments and you learn quickly how to counter the common disinfo lyin's. It is useful when talking to someone who believes the Lamestream Media.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-22   20:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#36)

I always loved it when you pointed out various propaganda techniques to the peanut gallery. You must have seemed like a Martian to most of those gullible goofs.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-22   20:44:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Original_Intent (#37)

Cheers back atcha!

What North American Union?

Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!

Tea Party '07

Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2007-11-22   20:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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