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Title: Watching The Train Wreck
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Published: Nov 22, 2007
Author: Original_Intent
Post Date: 2007-11-22 18:16:17 by Original_Intent
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Having been banned from With some of their chief opponents gone the 'bots and shills seem to be redoubling their efforts to load El Pee down with various types of noxious effluvium. A quick look at the "topics" under discussion, now that only anti-Ron Paul Threads are allowed, reads like a pornucopia of Spin, Disinformation, and more Spin. While some of the titles seem superficially interesting when one deals with the substance of the debates there is largely no substance. What you see is the various, 'bots, shills, and paid spin artists dominating and presenting only the "approved" Party Lyin', engaging in incivility and flame, and providing a degree of substance that would not be out of place on a Third Grade Playground. Yukon is there with the usual Party Lyin' and personal attacks, 'botshiller is present and accounted for posting anti-freedom pro-Israel Spam - again no substance just vituperation. All working together to turn El Pee into even more of a sewer of hate, disinformation, and vacuity. Of course there are still a few decent people there trying to hold ground agains the various disinformation artistes' but largely they are making the mistake of trying to simply convince the 'bots to see reason. Agenda Posters, and paid shills, could care less about reason. It is not part of their mandate. They are there to "catapult the propaganda" and to PREVENT substantive reasoned debate. Evidently Goldi-Pox approves as primarily the only people she has banned were people standing up on principle and presenting reasoned arguments (of course since those arguments addressed the reasons for her imposition of censorship she did find them discomfiting, but she lacks the courage and integrity to address them forthrightly). I really should thank Goldi-Pox for banning me and getting me out of her private sewer. She is quite welcome to wallow in the filth. I guess it takes all kinds although their reason for existence does sometimes seem elusive.
Liberty Post hasn't stopped me from visiting occaisionally, watching the animals feed, and being alternately saddened and amused. Thus the title of this thread as watching what is occurring is like watching a Train running into a Sewer.
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#24. To: Original_Intent (#15)
You want to talk about someone who's changed over the years, that would be RLKK. He was laid off from his engineering job four or five years ago and it has turned him into a bitter old man filled with hate. He's a pathetic little man.
Down There by the Train "Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
...Each of us... Beautiful, thank you.
"They must find it difficult... Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." ~ Gerald Massey
“Redemption” From the hands it came down A teardrop fell And the blood gave life Through the fire and the flood From the tree streamed a light Fought to keep me in chains And the blood gave life Through the fire and the flood From his hands it came down Said “You do have a choice.” And the blood gave life Through the fire and the flood "Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
What a beautiful spiritual - thank you.
Not trying to be disrespectful, but that's exactly what many of us learned from FreeRepublic about a week after 911. Oh, that's fine. However, I did not start posting anywhere until after 911. I think it was the obviousness of the fact that the only thing that accounted for all of the evidence was "inside job". Since then I've been wised up just a tad. El Pee has had some ups and downs, but until recently it was pretty much a free speech forum and I enjoyed making monkeys out of the 'bots and using them to make my own points while underscoring the ridiculousness of the Party Lyin'. However, the current scene at My only amusement is that I lasted as long as I did without Goldi finding some pretext to get rid of me.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
It is fun.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
At the pace I'm on, I'll be completely detoxed of PLP by New Year...
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
One big difference between LP and this site is that although there were plenty of 9/11 threads there, it apparently was always bickering, with the skeptics there being rather lame, juvenile and otherwise clonish, eager to bring all sorts of non-9/11 issues into it. Lots of disinfo repeats like "the pentagon plane couldn't turn that sharp without pulling six gees of force" -- ridiculous crap like that. This site has, in contrast, some highly detailed discussions of the 9/11 physical record, the physics of the collapsees and such.
Sad. Some people are tempered by adversity and others become brittle.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
With the exception of a couple goobs kept here for laughs, I see no reason to give corporate post-America another outlet. If this were my site I wouldn't run it any differently. Except into the ground through lackadaisical indifference to everyday affairs, but that's a topic best left somewhere else.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
That it are. "How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Cheers!
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
This site has, in contrast, some highly detailed discussions of the 9/11 physical record, the physics of the collapsees and such. Yes, yuktard and Beachooser were both big Official Disinfo Lyin' advocates. The one advantage to that though is that it does make you examine your arguments and you learn quickly how to counter the common disinfo lyin's. It is useful when talking to someone who believes the Lamestream Media.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
I always loved it when you pointed out various propaganda techniques to the peanut gallery. You must have seemed like a Martian to most of those gullible goofs.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
Cheers back atcha!
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
One intelligent rapper..and one rap song you will listen to to the end.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition I've noticed that the quality of the shilling has dropped off this year. I think its because anyone with a brain is trying to get away from Bush. Byteshreeder and yukon don't seem any smarter than the people they need to fool.
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Still a Bot?
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Thanks. That was always a lot of fun, and the 'bots did not like it one little bit. Several tried to convince me to stop doing it - whereupon I knew I had hit on something they could not counter. Unfortunately, after getting hit with it too many times, they simply started trying to avoid me since they knew they had no tactic to counter what they would get hit back with. After that I had to play "Search and Destroy".
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Not as smart as the people they trying to fool. "How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Mostly just as a hobby since I got kicked off LP.
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Which candidate (that is already declared) do you desire most to become the next POTUS?
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
i had to look that one up. ;)
Happy Thanksgiving!
i had to look that one up. ;) Mr. Dictionary is our friend. I love the english language because it offers so many ways to express ones self. Of course I have read too many high falutin' books too. If I were a real rat I might write something full of ponderously pretentious polysyllables propounding and pontificating along a parlous line of reasoning seeking more to obfuscate and infuriate that to enlighten, but then you might want to hit me. However, I prefer to eschew obfuscation.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
And to you as well. Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp!
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Oh you mean like a LAWYER??? And a CongressAsshole [most of whom are lawyers]??
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Oooooooooooooooh! That was a low blow. I am not now, nor have I ever been, either a Lawyer or a Politician. ;-) Ever read H. Beam Piper's Science Fiction Story "Lonestar Planet"? I think he was on to something there.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
I'm hoping that Bush refuses to step down in 2008 and stays on as a semi permanent leader. Sort of like Musharraf.
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I'm hoping that Bush refuses to step down in 2008 and stays on as a semi permanent leader. Sort of like Musharraf. On a scale of 1 to 5, with 5 being "Extremely Serious" and 1 being "Extreme Sarcasm", how would you rate your answer? I'm hoping that Bush refuses to step down in 2008 and stays on as a semi permanent leader. Sort of like Musharraf.
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
thanks for the affirmations. i'll tell you what, Goldi's loss is our gain.
I will add that I don't believe in coincidence either...
What North American Union? Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Seems somewhat likely. Do you think America may experience another national attack a month or so before the election? That would make the transition to a Bushocracy easier.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Of course. Why do you think I am so touchy about the 911 truth stuff? The attack is wasted effort if everyone blames Bush. And they will blame Bush if they buy into the 911 stuff.
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I'm surprised you lasted there as long as you did. As far as the cesspool we fondly refer to as ElPee, looking at it from a spectator's viewpoint really opens your eyes and makes you wonder why anyone would want to visit that forum these days. It's no better than FreeRepublic, in fact it's worse as the bots and disruptors have even more latitude in what they can get away with. With Goldi's recent bannings and censorship, we've gained some good people from her forum, and the influx of new voices makes this forum stronger. Her loss, our gain.
At least BeachOoser posted some halfway intelligent comments and arguments at times, whereas yuktard posted mainly ad hominem remarks and never really had anything intelligent to say.
As a lawyer, I wish to point out how it has been the lawyers who have been sticking up for the rule of law in Pakistan.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
As well that Goldi is playing a hidden game becomes more apparent. I suspected as much for some time, but the latest dust-up pretty well confirms it. Whether one of her own devising or by direction from above she is busily making intelligent discussion impossible. Note that the various 'bots and disruptors are never banned - particularly if they are an Israel Firster. I would have left a long time ago if I didn't enjoy 'bot tossing and throwing the hypocrisy of her Golden Calf, Israel, back in her face. That just has to frost her Brass plated gizzard - doubly so since we have the freedom to illustrate her hypocrisy and dishonesty and she can do nothing to halt it. With Neil McIver/Pinguinite holding her feet to the fire she doesn't know whether to shit or go blind. If she bans him, which I am sure she would love to do, it makes it obvious that what she is engaging in is censorship of a political view - which is diametrically opposed to the misrepresentation on El Pee's Home Page.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Too bad they aren't sticking up for the rule of law in the United States of AmeriKa.. Rather, they are using the complexities and injustices present in the unjust laws and unjust legal system to get rich from the troubles of others, judges included. [That'll only be $500 in "court costs" you buffoon!]
Law Enforcement Against ProhibitionRLKKK
#25. To: buckeye (#23)
A disturbing video that dovetails with your reply -
#26. To: lodwick, *Music Club* (#21)
#27. To: lodwick, ALL (#21)
Who'll stop the rain?
#28. To: lodwick (#21)
Johnny Cash
From the side it came down
From the feet it came down
And ran to the ground
Between heaven and hell
In the deep crimson dew
The tree of life grew
To the branches of the tree
And the blood was the price
That set the captives free
And the numbers that came
Clung to the tree
And were redeemed by the blood
That started the fight
‘Round the tree grew a vine
On whose fruit I could dine
My old friend Lucifer came
But I saw through the tricks
Of six-sixty-six
To the branches of the tree
And the blood was the price
That set the captives free
And the numbers that came
Clung to the tree
And were redeemed by the blood
From his side it came down
From his feet it came down
And ran to the ground
And a small inner voice
The vine engrafted me
And I clung to the tree
To the branches of the tree
And the blood was the price
That set the captives free
And with the numbers that came
I clung to the tree
And was redeemed by the blood
#29. To: Dakmar (#26)
#30. To: Dakmar, FormerLurker (#7)
(Edited)
and it just struck me, after visiting a few threads where I found the topic of interest, from reading the commentary and posts of the various people just how hostile Liberty Post is to intelligent and reasoned discourse.
Liberty Post is degenerating even further into a 1984 type forum. With the banning of myself and 2012 the balance has been tilted in favor of the 'bots. I suspect that either Goldi is going schizoid, has been dishonest for some time, or both.
#31. To: Original_Intent (#30)
I enjoyed making monkeys out of the 'bots and using them to make my own points while underscoring the ridiculousness of the Party Lyin'.
#32. To: Original_Intent (#30)
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#33. To: Original_Intent (#0)
#34. To: Hayek Fan (#24)
You want to talk about someone who's changed over the years, that would be RLKK. He was laid off from his engineering job four or five years ago and it has turned him into a bitter old man filled with hate. He's a pathetic little man.
#35. To: nobody, christine, Zipporah, robin (#33)
#36. To: Dakmar (#31)
It is fun.
#37. To: FOH (#32)
At the pace I'm on, I'll be completely detoxed of PLP by New Year...
#38. To: nobody (#33)
One big difference between LP and this site is that although there were plenty of 9/11 threads there, it apparently was always bickering, with the skeptics there being rather lame, juvenile and otherwise clonish, eager to bring all sorts of non-9/11 issues into it. Lots of disinfo repeats like "the pentagon plane couldn't turn that sharp without pulling six gees of force" -- ridiculous crap like that.
#39. To: Original_Intent (#36)
#40. To: Original_Intent (#37)
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#41. To: lodwick, REDPANTHER (#25)
BUMP
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#42. To: Original_Intent (#0)
What you see is the various, 'bots, shills, and paid spin artists dominating and presenting only the "approved" Party Lyin', engaging in incivility and flame, and providing a degree of substance that would not be out of place on a Third Grade Playground.
#43. To: BAC (#42)
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#44. To: Dakmar (#39)
I always loved it when you pointed out various propaganda techniques to the peanut gallery. You must have seemed like a Martian to most of those gullible goofs.
#45. To: BAC (#42)
Byteshreeder and yukon don't seem any smarter than the people they need to fool.
"Life is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
#46. To: FOH (#43)
Still a Bot?
#47. To: BAC (#46)
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#48. To: Original_Intent (#0)
effluvium
#49. To: Original_Intent, ALL (#0)
#50. To: christine (#48)
effluvium
#51. To: TwentyTwelve (#49)
Happy Thanksgiving!
#52. To: Original_Intent (#50)
If I were a real rat I might write something full of ponderously pretentious polysyllables propounding and pontificating along a parlous line of reasoning seeking more to obfuscate and infuriate that to enlighten, but then you might want to hit me.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#53. To: IndieTX (#52)
Oh you mean like a LAWYER??? And a CongressAsshole [most of whom are lawyers]??
#54. To: FOH (#47)
Which candidate (that is already declared) do you desire most to become the next POTUS?
#55. To: BAC (#54)
Which candidate (that is already declared) do you desire most to become the next POTUS?
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#56. To: Dakmar, Original_Intent, FOH, buckeye (#35)
#57. To: christine (#56)
Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW!
#58. To: BAC (#54)
I'm hoping that Bush refuses to step down in 2008 and stays on as a semi permanent leader. Sort of like Musharraf.
#59. To: tom007 (#58)
Do you think America may experience another national attack a month or so before the election?
#60. To: Original_Intent (#30)
My only amusement is that I lasted as long as I did without Goldi finding some pretext to get rid of me.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#61. To: Original_Intent (#38)
Yes, yuktard and Beachooser were both big Official Disinfo Lyin' advocates.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#62. To: IndieTX (#52)
(Edited)
#63. To: FormerLurker, Pinguinite, TwentyTwelve (#60)
As far as the cesspool we fondly refer to as ElPee, looking at it from a spectator's viewpoint really opens your eyes and makes you wonder why anyone would want to visit that forum these days. It's no better than FreeRepublic, in fact it's worse as the bots and disruptors have even more latitude in what they can get away with.
With Goldi's recent bannings and censorship, we've gained some good people from her forum, and the influx of new voices makes this forum stronger.
Her loss, our gain.
#64. To: aristeides, ALL (#62)
(Edited)
As a lawyer, I wish to point out how it has been the lawyers who have been sticking up for the rule of law in Pakistan.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
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