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Title: Rudy: Yes, I Voted For McGovern, But I Actually Preferred Nixon
Source: TPM Election Central
URL Source: http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/ ... i_actually_preferred_nixon.php
Published: Nov 23, 2007
Author: Greg Sargent
Post Date: 2007-11-23 11:38:19 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 144
Comments: 7

Rudy: Yes, I Voted For McGovern, But I Actually Preferred Nixon

By Greg Sargent - November 23, 2007, 9:25AM

As he seeks to court GOP primary voters, one potential sticking point has been his opposition to the Vietnam War in the early 1970s and his vote for Dem George McGovern in 1972. But Rudy has now concocted a new explanation for that vote: He didn't mean it.

Or so he says in a new interview with The Weekly Standard:

"I had traditionally been a Democrat," Giuliani told me in a recent interview in Las Vegas. "It was almost like a reflex mode. I actually remember saying to myself, 'If I was a person really deciding who should be president right now, I'd probably vote for Nixon, because I think the country would be safer with Nixon.'"

Hmmm. Does this mean that Rudy didn't vote for the candidate who he himself thought would keep the country safer? Seems a bit odd. Foreign policy and national security issues were kind of front and center during that campaign.

The article also delves into Rudy's switch to the GOP, which came in 1980. In the piece Rudy seems to suggest that this was driven partly by his discontent with Dems on foreign policy. But as the Standard article accurately points out, Rudy's switch to the GOP neatly coincided with his desire to get a political appointment from the newly-minted Reagan administration.

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#1. To: aristeides (#0)

The article also delves into Rudy's switch to the GOP, which came in 1980.

Most of the neo-republicrats are recycled commies.

"Paper is poverty,... it is only the ghost of money, and not money itself." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1788. ME 7:36

noone222  posted on  2007-11-23   11:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222 (#1)

Giuliani supported and voted for Cuomo also.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-23   11:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

Giuliani supported and voted for Cuomo also.

As recently as 1994, when Rudy didn't even have the excuse of getting on board with a winner, as Cuomo lost.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-23   11:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#0)

Every Presidential election gets worse and worse. Dole vs. Clinton wasn't much of a choice, neither was Bush vs. Gore or Kerry. Giuliani vs. Clinton II will be the worst of the lot. Both Hillary and Rudy are more liberal, more crooked, and more phony than their party's last run of candidates, and that says a lot.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-11-23   11:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#4)

In a two party system, both controlled by the same people, they have no intention of giving the voters any choice for president.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-11-23   12:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#4)

Every Presidential election gets worse and worse. Dole vs. Clinton wasn't much of a choice, neither was Bush vs. Gore or Kerry. Giuliani vs. Clinton II will be the worst of the lot. Both Hillary and Rudy are more liberal, more crooked, and more phony than their party's last run of candidates, and that says a lot.

Good observation.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-11-23   13:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#0)

In Arthur Schlesinger's recently published Journals, he says both he and George McGovern voted for Ford in 1976.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-11-23   15:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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