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Title: I Have Been Denied A Visa To Australia By The State Department, Probably For Posting On 4um - tom007
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Published: Nov 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-11-23 12:05:41 by tom007
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I just tried to purchase air tickets to Nadi, Fiji, then to Brisbane Australia to see my eighty three year old father, and as the agent for Air Pacific put it "you have been bitten by the crocodile". He ran my passport numbers in their system and it came up No Fly. It has to be the US State Department, because Australia knows nothing about me. The only thing I can think of is my political posting here at 4um. How they could get my identity is easy enough to see given the news of Yahoo and google . The Australian Embassy in Los Angles is closed today, but on Monday I hope to clear it up. Our society is closing around us daily. And They Hate Us Because Were Free.
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#14. To: Red Jones (#12)
Yes - flew to and from Lake Charles, LA this summer. Prison Planet is sounding more and more accurate.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" With the ongoing clamp down I don't even bother to try and fly anymore. I've been very vocal over the last few years and figure that I'm on more than one list. Our would be masters do not like "uppity" serfs.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Me either. Not even a consideration.
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. People can say what they want about Alex, (and personally I think he gets a bit carried away sometimes with "carrying it on his shirtsleeve" - AND one day it's "WE'RE FREAKING DOOMED" then the next "WE'RE WINNING THIS") BUT historically his "predictions" have been pretty accurate. He's really dug DEEP to try to get to the bottom of things to glean a look at the "big picture".
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. Me either. Not even a consideration. At this point the traveler has now been placed in the position of "suspect" and supplicant. To even have the ability to fly you have to abase yourself, bow, and scrape before low grade morons with a 'tude. This is a measure of tyranny the Sheeple just don't get. "How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
This is a measure of tyranny the Sheeple just don't get. All done in the name of safety. Now don't you feel safe?
Oh, yessssssssssssssssssssss! Can I have a Jack Booted Thug to come and tuck me in?
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
OH - God YES!!!! HELP ME - HELP ME!!! That mean ol Islamofascist with the long beard is after ME!!! He HATES my FREEDOMS!!! Can I submit to an anal probe - will that help you protect me???
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. Can I have a Jack Booted Thug to come and tuck me in? HAHAHAHAHAHA I was posting my reply (#21) at the same time you were. Shows great minds think alike!
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. Don't laugh, they'll also check for "Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
Give 'em time. Rome isn't being built in a day you know...
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. LMAO! Don't get me started, don't even get me started.
You read innieway's post, it's not under the bed they are checking.
Oh, there too. :) Actually I hadn't read innie's post and thought I was caught up.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
Well I was reading them out of order so I won't throw any stones.
Can I have a Jack Booted Thug to come and tuck me in? HAHAHAHAHAHA I was posting my reply (#21) at the same time you were. Shows great minds think alike! It also shows that the image is becoming an accepted view. This is a good thing. To solve a problem you must first identify it. Of course the JBT's are a symptom not the cause, but the recognition that the JBT's are not our friends is the leading edge of recognition.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Don't laugh, they'll also check for Oh, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeee! Save me massuh Jorge! Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave me! We jus' gots ta get them that evul Islamofascists afore they swim across the Atlantuk and takes "How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Seems to me that the new restrictions are basically to keep Americans in rather than keep bad people out of America. In Canada even if you have an old DUI you can not get in. We need to impose those same restrictions on Canadians attempting to get into our country. We have wide open borders allow muslims from terrorist nations in without adequate checks but yet it is getting more and more difficult for Americans to go to other countries. The Berlin wall or the China Wall come to mind.
That's not something I've had to begin to recognize. I have YET to ever ONCE have any cop do ANYTHING to "help, serve, OR protect" me. All they've ever "done for" me is cause yet another hassle. I'd rather milk a wild kicking cow than deal with the JBTs. At least then if I do get my ass kicked I can "lick my wounds" in the comfort of my own house... BUT, by the same token, I'm not gonna compromise my principles just to "avoid a confrontation" with them either.
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. That's exactly what's going on. Just like an animal trap - easy to get in, hard (or impossible) to get out.
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. I've run into a few decent ones, but it is becoming like that bad old joke on Lawyers: "90% of the Cops give the other 10% a bad name."
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
b. The Berlin wall or the China Wall come to mind. a. We have wide open borders to let in cheap labor from Mexico is more the case. Many more Americans have been criminally victimized stateside by illegals from Latin America than the total number of Americans who were killed on 9/11 by 19 Muslims. Apart from the 9/11 single event, I have not heard about victimization of American citizens stateside by Muslims. Have you? b. Berlin Wall was built 1961 to keep people in but it didn't last too long. In 1966 Mao actually encouraged the Chinese to bring down anything associated with traditional Chinese history and culture ( his Cultural Revolution), the Wall being one of these symbols, and under Mao the Wall fell into disrepair and the parts around Beijing were purposely taken down and quarried. Mao did not use The Great Wall to wall in the Chinese to any great extent to my knowledge. Mao preferred mass executions,re-education camps, tanks and guns to keep his peoples too terrified to run away. c. Actually what comes to my mind regarding what is happening in America today, is the clever Passportization scheme of the 1930's first successfully used by the NKVD to "wall in" citizens. In fact, Ukrainian Christians were branded and tagged through Passportization just prior to implementation of the Holomodor against them. It only took the NKVD 1 year to snuff 8-10 Million Ukies.
Hell, our sheriff is about as "decent" as they come. He leaves people alone, is VERY adamant about defending people's RIGHT to own guns, etc. By all accounts fits the description of "decent" better than any I've ever met. I had a stallion this past summer which I had to have put down. His leg was severely broken. When we first saw it, it was quite obvious that it had happened by gunshot. I had a VERY GOOD idea of WHO would have done it (they even left a "calling card" of sorts), AND this person had a "revenge motive". xxxxxx WORKED for the vet! Naturally, the vet's diagnosis was "it must have got on the road and hit by a car." Total bullshit!!! There was a big puddle of blood clearly showing where this happened! But the sheriff took the vet's diagnosis, and refused to even come check it out at all..... "Decent" doesn't equate with help, serve, or protect in my books...
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. Unfortunately such things do happen in small communities. I'm not defending it, but it is the reality. The only way around it would be to go to another Vet for an unbiased opinion. One small community I spent some time growing up in was dominated by the local Mining Company and the cops were pretty decent - as long as it did not involve THE company.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Yeah I think you are right.
Similar to Wilson.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I don't think they will ever have a no swim list. If you can swim across either ocean then you deserve immediate citizenship in any country you make it to. You would be too valuable to have in the Olympics for them to not welcome you with open arms.
God is always good!
Tom: All I can say is that I have recently made several domestic flights with no trouble other than being selected for a full blown luggage inspection. That means you are on the Slow Fly List with no access to international flights. This proves that they are making more sophisticated distinctions in their discriminations. If I book a domestic flight and I am on a Slow Fly List, I will book sea passage so foreign nations are not alerted to refuse my entry.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Yeah. And I knew that at the time too. Tried to tell it to the sheriff. Problem was, the horse was in SEVERE pain. I've had horses with bad injuries before, but this was the only time I've seen one quivering from it. The next closest vet is 30 miles. I didn't get this one out to get his skewed opinion, but to put the horse down. I was so mad (and sick) over the deal I didn't even bother with trying to get a second opinion.
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. ouch tom, I'm so sorry. hopefully there's some mistake - your name is the same as someone else's or something like that. posting on 4um, no matter how angry or pointed, is still pretty benign. hardly as dangerous or blatantly terroristic as, say, wearing a t-shirt in public. sorry, that wasn't helpful. really though, if posting here is the extent of your political activity, I have to think this is a mistake, most likely an identity mixup. there are young children on the no fly list. best of luck to you, and please make sure it gets straightened out so you can return after your visit. unless, of course, you don't plan to, and I can't say I'd blame you :)
omg, Johnny, i would find it quite difficult not to somehow exact retribution on this animal abusing bastard.
Surely that's the case. As for political activity I am a member of the El Paso county Republican (Colorado) Central Committee, as a preceint leader, so not much jihad in that. But even if it is an error, as it must be, getting it corrected may well be a nightmare. Australia might be a lot easier to work with than the US tho, and my father is a Aussie citizen. As an aside, I asked the agent what was necessary for a Fiji visa, as I'll be stayin there for six nights on the return leg. He said "If you can smile while getting off the plane, that's your Fiji visa". Fiji sounds allright.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" ooh, figi might just be a good place to live! I can smile better than almost anything else :) good luck Tom, and keep us posted
No doubt it's a case of mistaken identity. The weekend is long time to wait for answers. Perhaps you might feel a bit re-assured by reading the transcript of an episode entitled "Nuts" from Boston Legal or renting it on DVD. I saw the episode when it was originally aired and it was pretty darn good. These Hollywood legal shows ( Law& Order, CSI, Boston Legal) typically get inspirations for their scripts from real life headlines/events. Enjoy! And I wish you the best come Monday. www.boston- legal.org/script/BL03x12.pdf "Nuts" Season 3, Episode 12
Thanks - we'll see.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" If only you knew how much I'd like to. The guy just ISN'T right. He has a lot of mental issues. He was a Nam vet, seriously wounded. He's been diagnosed with liver cancer, and has heart problems too. As much as I loathe him, in a way I also feel sorry for him. He'll have to answer for his actions to the One that really matters, (he also has to atone for the child molestation charges he was convicted of - which I didn't know about until a long time after I met him) and so will I... Frankly, I'm not sure that answering for any "retribution" against the guy is something I want to do. I think it's best just to leave it alone. I know what he's all about now, and the Creator DOESN'T have any Law saying I have to associate with him in any way... The whole thing is sad. It was a very good stallion, had been in 12 races ("bush tracks") and was undefeated! The animal had NOTHING to do with the differences we had with each other. He should have been man enough to confront ME about it, not take it out on the stallion... On the "plus" side (if there is one), I had the stallion running with 3 mares. I sold one and the buyer had it palpated and confirmed bred, so I know the other 2 are too. (He was a previously unproven stallion. This was the first year I had let him run with some mares. It was a magnificent sight to see him and the pride he showed over his herd of girls!) One of them is a very fast horse herself with a helluva lot of heart, maybe she'll drop me a good running colt. Here's a couple of pics: America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. what a gorgeous animal. his coat gleams. it breaks my heart.
After katrina Claire revised that statement to say that it is, in fact, time. She is one of my all time favorites.
Thanks - we'll see. Any new info to share with us Tom?
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Read Your Own DHS Travel Dossier i sent for mine and my husband's today.
Just posted the latest info.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
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#15. To: tom007 (#0)
#16. To: Original_Intent (#15)
With the ongoing clamp down I don't even bother to try and fly anymore.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#17. To: tom007 (#14)
Prison Planet is sounding more and more accurate.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#18. To: innieway (#16)
With the ongoing clamp down I don't even bother to try and fly anymore.
"It's all a measure of how much the goobermunt luvs us and wants to pertect us from the scary scary Islamofascist Al CIAda's, and pay no attention to that open border or black ops Police." ~ John Q. Sheep /sick sarcasm
#19. To: Original_Intent (#18)
At this point the traveler has now been placed in the position of "suspect" and supplicant. To even have the ability to fly you have to abase yourself, bow, and scrape before low grade morons with a 'tude.
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#20. To: farmfriend (#19)
All done in the name of safety. Now don't you feel safe?
#21. To: farmfriend (#19)
All done in the name of safety. Now don't you feel safe?
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#22. To: Original_Intent (#20)
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Oh, yessssssssssssssssssssss!
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#23. To: Original_Intent (#20)
Can I have a Jack Booted Thug to come and tuck me in?
boogiemen communists muslims hiding under your bed. Probably should be a whole new federal agency dedicated to this task.
#24. To: Dakmar (#23)
Probably should be a whole new federal agency dedicated to this task.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#25. To: innieway (#21)
Can I submit to an anal probe - will that help you protect me???
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#26. To: Dakmar, Original_Intent, innieway (#23)
they'll also check for boogiemen communists muslims hiding under your bed.
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#27. To: farmfriend (#26)
#28. To: Dakmar (#27)
Actually I hadn't read innie's post and thought I was caught up.
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#29. To: innieway (#22)
Oh, yessssssssssssssssssssss!
#30. To: Dakmar (#23)
Can I have a Jack Booted Thug to come and tuck me in?
boogiemen communists muslims hiding under your bed. Probably should be a whole new federal agency dedicated to this task. that faggy Jeff Christie St. Limbaugh off'n the air. /Drooling NeoConned
#31. To: farmfriend (#19)
All done in the name of safety. Now don't you feel safe?
#32. To: Original_Intent (#29)
the recognition that the JBT's are not our friends is the leading edge of recognition.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#33. To: Miraclerose (#31)
Seems to me that the new restrictions are basically to keep Americans in rather than keep bad people out of America.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#34. To: innieway (#32)
#35. To: Miraclerose (#31)
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a. We have wide open borders allow muslims from terrorist nations in without adequate checks but yet it is getting more and more difficult for Americans to go to other countries.
#36. To: Original_Intent (#34)
I've run into a few decent ones,
We went straight to the sheriff to report it. He just said "I don't believe xxxxxx would have done that. But get the vet to look at it, and if he says it's a gunshot I'll investigate."
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#37. To: innieway (#36)
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#38. To: Miraclerose (#31)
Seems to me that the new restrictions are basically to keep Americans in rather than keep bad people out of America.
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#39. To: robin (#6)
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/11/when-it-rains-i.html
#40. To: Horse (#8)
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I don't think they have a no swim list yet.
#41. To: tom007 (#13)
Horse:I want to test to see if I am on either a No Fly or a SLow Fly list by buying a domestic airline ticket before I purchase an overseas ticket.
#42. To: Original_Intent (#37)
The only way around it would be to go to another Vet for an unbiased opinion.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#43. To: tom007 (#0)
"you have been bitten by the crocodile".
#44. To: innieway (#36)
I had a stallion this past summer which I had to have put down. His leg was severely broken. When we first saw it, it was quite obvious that it had happened by gunshot. I had a VERY GOOD idea of WHO would have done it (they even left a "calling card" of sorts), AND this person had a "revenge motive".
#45. To: kiki, christine, red jones (#43)
ouch tom, I'm so sorry. hopefully there's some mistake
#46. To: tom007 (#45)
He said "If you can smile while getting off the plane, that's your Fiji visa".
#47. To: tom007 (#0)
#48. To: scrapper2 (#47)
And I wish you the best come Monday.
#49. To: christine (#44)
i would find it quite difficult not to somehow exact retribution on this animal abusing bastard.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#50. To: innieway (#49)
#51. To: innieway (#16)
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. Claire Wolfe
#52. To: tom007 (#48)
And I wish you the best come Monday.
#53. To: Zipporah, tom007, Brian S (#11)
www.unsecureflight.com/request.html
#54. To: Brian S (#52)
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