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Title: A question. Your opinion requested.
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Published: Nov 23, 2007
Author: Inquiring minds
Post Date: 2007-11-23 12:20:55 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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As the time left for this administration gets less and less what are the chances of attacking Iran doing?
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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
Hard to say. I believe we have them on the run. They're more worried now about installing the next major executor to the present agenda. That is taking up most of their time and resources. A war could jeopardize that.
personally I have no idea what the chances are that the US & Iran will war. all I can say is that I hope not. the people who rule us are fully capable of putting out pro-war propaganda for the sake of just agitating us & deceiving us. OTOH they may do it. I have no idea.
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
How about "False Flag" operations
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
I think the chances go up as the nutjobs get more desperate.
Read New History They have decades to get their agendas accomplished. No one has interfered with them yet.
My feelings exactly.
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
They will do it, and use it as an excuse to shut down the election if it puts their new puppet's chances of replacing the old puppet in jeopardy.
I hope the resistance in the military itself is sufficient to keep that from happening. I'm more concerned with the possibility of another "terrorist attack". Another 911 would very conveniently work against Ron Paul's candidacy, while simultaneously boosting war popularity against Iran or some other country that lacks nukes. But the economic and military reality is that we cannot afford to invade Iran or any other country with a population greater than 200. Cannot afford it. Hitting Iran, in particular, would cause oil prices to skyrocket, and you could kiss the USA goodbye as we're flushed down the toilet. So in answer to your question, a decision by Bush to strike Iran is very possible.
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Nothing. The chances are zero.
I remember that Clinton was supposed to use the Y2K meltdown to suspend the elections and impose martial law.
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A very well-reasoned response. IMHO, it's high time to quit considering what MAY happen, and PREPARE for the worst. Time to form TINY alliances (of no more than 5 or so) who you KNOW are TRULY TRUSTWORTHY, with a mindset of "fuck everybody else, it's only us now, we're on our own" and gameplan in place to accomplish it and survive this global agenda. The global agenda WILL implode upon itself, but NOT until AFTER it has been fully realized; which, at the rate it's going, may happen very quickly from here. When it DOES implode, it will take damned near everyone on the planet with it, BUT there WILL be a few survivors dotted all around the globe.
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. Except Clinton had not implemented laws ripping up Habeas Corpus ,destroying Posse Comitatus, allowing him to imprison without charges for three years anyone arbitrarily declared an enemy combatant, allowing him to federalize the National Guard, allowing him to declare Martial Law in a sweeping fashion, did not try to purge U.S. Attorneys to get rid of them interfering with the trappings of a crooked election and many other things that has everyone rightfully alarmed by Bush/Cheney, and the people who have hold of and can twist their balls to keep them in line. We are in grave jeopardy from someone who has worked to destroy and weaken our democracy a long time. Nothing you can say counters all the overwhelming evidence supporting this. Your counterpoint has no traction to it, and is not grounded in reality.
If you want to know where domestic power is sitting, look at who is running the Federal police agencies and the money supply. If and when the false flag attack comes, they'll be the ones that move to round up the 'suspects' and then to cut off 'funding'.
Read New History Naomi Wolf: 10 steps to fascism 1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy 2. Create a gulag 3. Develop a thug caste 4. Set up an internal surveillance system 5. Harass citizens' groups 6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release 7. Target key individuals 8. Control the press 9. Dissent equals treason 10. Suspend the rule of law Here's an essay on the 10 steps that Wolf wrote for the Guardian in April.
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"They must find it difficult... Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." ~ Gerald Massey
Yeah well, Iran is in no jeopardy from getting attacked by the Bush administration.
You don't sound convinced, wishful thinking doesn't get you very far, does it?
What are they waiting for? Seriously, the Bush administration has had ample opportunity to strike Iran yet they don't do it. The whole "Iran is supplying the insurgents who kill US soldiers" should have been enough but they didn't to a damn thing.
We are in grave jeopardy from someone who has worked to destroy and weaken our democracy a long time. Nothing you can say counters all the overwhelming evidence supporting this. Your counterpoint has no traction to it, and is not grounded in reality. Very well stated!
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. What about a preemptive attack by Israel? Iran would retaliate, and we certainly couldn't just allow our very best friend in the whole wide world to be "wiped off the map" - as we all KNOW Iran wants to do...
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. What are they waiting for?
Yes, I fear this will be the route by which it would happen, given the widespread opposition even within the US military ranks. But most likely the Iranians don't have the means to retaliate directly against Israel. OTOH, Israel's ALLIES (or perceived allies) would be in easy striking distance across both the Western and Eastern borders. A large number of Americans would overlook the fact that troop presences in Iraq and Afghanistan made them vulnerable to Iranian retaliation to begin with, and will hysterically cry out to escalate the war. Unless reason can somehow prevail.
I dunno. The US to be in a more "favorable position" as far as the overall desired outcome perhaps? As long as we have troops in Iraq, we would likely be "in the thick of it" in so far as retaliation is concerned - and thus "spread thin". I'm just speculating. No predictions. You're pretty well "connected". Perhaps you can tell us what they (or we for that matter) are waiting for...
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. An attack on Iran would do more harm than good. It would backfire spectacularly. It would cause serious economic problems in the US which already is on the verge of recession. It would result in more violence and turmoil in the Middle East especially in Iraq. All the US and its allies have been doing regarding Iran is talk and that's all they're going to do.
Not likely. In Albert Pike's writings, he correctly called exactly HOW and WHERE the first 2 World Wars would occur. He also called for the 3rd to come under the conditions which are now in place, with it's roots in the ME and it to be under the "guise" of Islam vs "other religion" (particularly Christianity)... The "set up" is here, and there's certainly no indications of tensions letting up anytime soon in the ME...
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. Agreed. 100%. SO WHAT??? This is the first time I've seen you admit that our economic situation is looking bad. Is perhaps some of what everyone's been telling you beginning to make sense? I realize that you KNOW at least 90% of everything there is TO KNOW in the world. BUT is it possible, just POSSIBLE that what the folks on this forum have been telling you is something which comes from the 10% you DON'T know?
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. There may be a recession, there may not be. If there is a recession it won't last forever. We've had recessions before and we got through them.
If there is a recession it won't last forever. We've had recessions before and we got through them. True, but we also used to have a much greater production based economy. One of the "benefits" of a recession would be a reduction in the value of the dollar, meaning an increase in exports. We're now a service based economy. What do we have to export, wheat because of last year's bumper crop? I don't think exporting service will work. We've had a full-blown depression before too. What "got us out of that" BTW? A "visionary president" and the economy generated from a World War? Hell, if Hitler hadn't come on the scene when he did (WONDERFUL TIMING wasn't it?) there's no telling HOW long that depression might have lasted. Just pure luck for us I guess.
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. Exactly Noami Wolfe's reasoning as well. The End of America...and make it plausible for the chimperor to remain in power by suspending what few laws and rights he hasn't already taken away from us.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Someone once said to ask whom you can't criticize. But that might have been just a self-fulfilling prophecy.
#2. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#3. To: buckeye (#1)
#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
"Abe Foxman, my good friend and partner." - John Negroponte
#5. To: JiminyC (#4)
#6. To: JiminyC (#4)
#7. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#8. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#9. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
As the time left for this administration gets less and less what are the chances of attacking Iran doing?
#10. To: Ferret Mike (#7)
They will do it, and use it as an excuse to shut down the election if it puts their new puppet's chances of replacing the old puppet in jeopardy.
#11. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#12. To: Pinguinite, IndieTX, ALL (#8)
Claire Wolfe
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#13. To: Mister Clean (#10)
#14. To: Ferret Mike, Mister Clean, Itisa1mosttoolate, Cynicom, Tauzero, christine (#13)
We are in grave jeopardy from someone who has worked to destroy and weaken our democracy a long time.
"Abe Foxman, my good friend and partner." - John Negroponte
#15. To: Ferret Mike (#13)
#16. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#17. To: Ferret Mike (#13)
We are in grave jeopardy from someone who has worked to destroy and weaken our democracy a long time.
#18. To: Mister Clean (#17)
"Yeah well, Iran is in no jeopardy from getting attacked by the Bush administration."
#19. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
You don't sound convinced, wishful thinking doesn't get you very far, does it?
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#13)
Except Clinton had not implemented laws ripping up Habeas Corpus ,destroying Posse Comitatus, allowing him to imprison without charges for three years anyone arbitrarily declared an enemy combatant, allowing him to federalize the National Guard, allowing him to declare Martial Law in a sweeping fashion, did not try to purge U.S. Attorneys to get rid of them interfering with the trappings of a crooked election and many other things that has everyone rightfully alarmed by Bush/Cheney, and the people who have hold of and can twist their balls to keep them in line.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#21. To: Mister Clean (#17)
Yeah well, Iran is in no jeopardy from getting attacked by the Bush administration.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#22. To: innieway (#21)
What about a preemptive attack by Israel?
#23. To: innieway (#21)
What about a preemptive attack by Israel? Iran would retaliate, and we certainly couldn't just allow our very best friend in the whole wide world to be "wiped off the map" - as we all KNOW Iran wants to do...
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#24. To: Mister Clean (#22)
What are they waiting for?
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#25. To: innieway (#24)
You're pretty well "connected". Perhaps you can tell us what they (or we for that matter) are waiting for...
#26. To: PnbC (#23)
Unless reason can somehow prevail.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#27. To: Mister Clean (#25)
(Edited)
An attack on Iran would do more harm than good. It would backfire spectacularly. It would cause serious economic problems in the US which already is on the verge of recession. It would result in more violence and turmoil in the Middle East especially in Iraq.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#28. To: innieway (#27)
This is the first time I've seen you admit that our economic situation is looking bad. Is perhaps some of what everyone's been telling you beginning to make sense?
#29. To: Mister Clean (#28)
There may be a recession, there may not be.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#30. To: Pinguinite (#8)
I'm more concerned with the possibility of another "terrorist attack". Another 911 would very conveniently work against Ron Paul's candidacy, while simultaneously boosting war popularity against Iran or some other country that lacks nukes.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#31. To: JiminyC (#14)
If you want to know where domestic power is sitting, look at who is running the Federal police agencies and the money supply.
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#32. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
... and wisdom to know the difference.
As the time left for this administration gets less and less what are the chances of attacking Iran doing?
| In many places they have the monopoly of the wine and spirit shops, and retail trade generally; and as they are always willing to advance money on usury, and are more intelligent and better educated than the ordinary peasant, there is little doubt that in a country where the large landowners are proverbially extravagant, and the peasant proprietors needy, the soil would soon fall into the hands of the Jews were it not for the stringent laws which prevent them from owning land outside the towns. |
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