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Title: Huckabee Picks Up Another Endorsement: Left Behind Author Tim LaHaye
Source: Crooks and Liars
URL Source: http://crooksandliars.com/
Published: Nov 23, 2007
Author: Crooks and Liars
Post Date: 2007-11-23 13:25:34 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 533
Comments: 33

Street Prophets:

David Kirkpatrick, via Melissa Rogers:

Mike Huckabee, the Republican presidential candidate and former Southern Baptist minister, is getting help from Tim LaHaye, the Christian conservative organizer and co-author of the apocalyptic “Left Behind” novels.

“America and our Judeo-Christian heritage are under attack by a force that is more destructive than any America has faced” since Hitler, Dr. LaHaye and his wife, Beverly, wrote in letters sent to lists of conservative Christians in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. “Defeating the radical jihadists will require renewed resolve and spiritual rearmament by the evangelical pastors in America.”[..]

This can hardly be described as a positive development, though I’m not sure how much direct effect the LaHayes will have. Voters don’t typically look to novelists for political guidance (even if LaHaye’s been a conservative activist for decades), and the CWA is one of those aging, increasingly irrelevant groups of social conservatives.

Sigh. You got to love that spiritual ‘warfare’ analogy….it’s so Christ-like, innit?

AlterNet has the Five Things Mike Huckabee Doesn’t Want You To Know About Him. (1 image)

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

“Defeating the radical jihadists will require renewed resolve and spiritual rearmament by the evangelical pastors in America.”[..]

So, like, are all these pastors going to walk away from their pulpits, head over to Iraq, grab M-16s and start busting caps?

Just wondering.

The Fountain of Truth

snoopdougg  posted on  2007-11-23   13:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: snoopdougg (#1)

Uh.. only when only when Jesus comes riding in on a white horse and is carrying an AK ..in their minds of course :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-23   13:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

Vote for Huckleberry or Burn in Hell!

Has a nice ring to it.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-11-23   13:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: snoopdougg (#1) (Edited)

So, like, are all these pastors going to walk away from their pulpits, head over to Iraq, grab M-16s and start busting caps?

I've been wondering that myself.

Who better to lead the Army than putting these guys directly in the theatre.

If they can drop their followers to their knees, I have NO DOUBT, within a week, the power of their message would quickly bring together a conversion of hearts. Maybe have a Mullah Hullaballoo.

You must be registered with the correct party to vote for Ron Paul in states with CLOSED PRIMARIES.

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Peppa  posted on  2007-11-23   13:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Dakmar (#3)

LOL!

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-23   14:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#0)

“America and our Judeo-Christian heritage are under attack by a force that is more destructive than any America has faced” ... the radical jihadists

At first I thought he was talking about Hillary.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-11-23   15:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: MUDDOG (#6)

“America and our Judeo-Christian heritage are under attack by a force that is more destructive than any America has faced” ... the radical jihadists

Well, he could be talking about himself and his movement.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-23   15:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#0)

Mike Huckabee, the Republican presidential candidate and former Southern Baptist minister, is getting help from Tim LaHaye, the Christian conservative organizer and co-author of the apocalyptic “Left Behind” novels.

Kook City.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2007-11-23   15:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: aristeides (#7)

Did the economic forces of the last three decades mold him and his movement (as per "What's the Matter With Kansas"), or was it the other way around in that the current economic scene with greater concentration of wealth and war on the middle class was orchestrated by a political movement?

Paul Krugman in his new book has come around to the latter.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-11-23   15:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#0)

Mike Huckabee, the Republican presidential candidate and former Southern Baptist minister, is getting help from Tim LaHaye, the Christian conservative organizer, Sun Myung Moon/KCIA Asset, and co-author of the apocalyptic “Left Behind” novels which are based on Rupture Theology unsupported by his own scriptures.

The Blue of course is my addition for accuracy.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-23   15:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#0) (Edited)

“America and our Judeo-Christian heritage are under attack by a force that is more destructive than any America has faced” since Hitler, Dr. LaHaye and his wife, Beverly, wrote in letters

America= "Judeo-Christian heritage" - neoconism phrase that has become a popular mantra as of late coming out of the yaps of La Hayes end-timers as well as from talk-radio jocks and from MSM tele-prompter readers.

Lest we forget, what with the mind-numbing Thanksgiving shopping hooplah, that America's heritage can be traced to the Pilgrims ( like them or not), Christians all.

There was no significant Jewish contingent on the Mayflower, regardless of what La Haye and Michael Savage and Sean Hannity and others might suggest.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-11-23   16:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Zipporah (#2)

Uh.. only when only when Jesus comes riding in on a white horse and is carrying an AK ..in their minds of course :P

Yeah, He will ride in on His horse carrying an AK.

Just like He rode into town on an elephant.

The Fountain of Truth

snoopdougg  posted on  2007-11-23   16:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zipporah (#0)

Another fruitcake jumps on the Huckabee bandwagon. Who's next, the guy on the corner with the crazy painted bus?

echo5sierra  posted on  2007-11-23   17:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zipporah (#0)

It's just sad.

buckeye  posted on  2007-11-23   17:02:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: scrapper2 (#11)

Lest we forget, what with the mind-numbing Thanksgiving shopping hooplah, that America's heritage can be traced to the Pilgrims ( like them or not), Christians all.

There was no significant Jewish contingent on the Mayflower, regardless of what La Haye and Michael Savage and Sean Hannity and others might suggest.

I started a post on that subject earlier today, and decided not to post it...maybe I should reconsider. I've been harboring the suspicion for some time now, that the Mayflower probably DID have a significant Jewish contingent aboard, including some of Bush's ancestors.

But our history did not start with the Pilgrims. It started at Jamestown.

www.visionforumministries...harter_of_virginia_1.aspx

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-11-23   18:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15) (Edited)

I started a post on that subject earlier today, and decided not to post it...maybe I should reconsider. I've been harboring the suspicion for some time now, that the Mayflower probably DID have a significant Jewish contingent aboard, including some of Bush's ancestors.

But our history did not start with the Pilgrims. It started at Jamestown

Whatever - Jamestown, New England, Maryland; Anglicans, Puritans, Catholics.

My point in msg.#11 was to state that America's cultural heritage is Christian - not Judeo-Christian.

I don't know what your point is - yes, perhaps there were a few Jews who came with the Christians in our nation's formative years - but those numbers of Jews would have been so small it would not represent any justifiable reason or good cause for the neocon yapsters to call our heritage "Judeo-Christian." Give me a break. This latest shopping of phony "Judeo-Christian" hertiage schtick is purely to manipulate the general public into believing our nation's heritage had some kind of Judaic input into its formative years and therefore and thusly we owe something back in keeping Izzy Thug State afloat. We don't owe Jews a thing for our heritage. Zero, nada, zilch.

I don't dispute Judeo heritage being associated with the ME or with North Africa or even with Spain - absolutely, yes - but America? - no.

Frankly I could care less whether Bush's family tree included Jewish elements - heck if Jews want to put claims on dubya, great! - I'm sick and tired of hearing that dumboinchief is a Christian. Let dubya be labelled as a Jew, a Hindu, an athiest - anything but a Christian - let other religious groups experience some shame and embaressment with being associated with the village idiot on the lam from Texas for a change.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-11-23   19:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Zipporah (#0)

Huckabee of the Succubi.


From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.

PnbC  posted on  2007-11-23   22:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)

But our history did not start with the Pilgrims. It started at Jamestown.

Speak for yourself paleface. (Just joking.)

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-23   22:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: scrapper2 (#16) (Edited)

My point in msg.#11 was to state that America's cultural heritage is Christian - not Judeo-Christian.

I totally agree. My point is that there has been a battle for supremacy between the two since the beginning.

I'm sick and tired of hearing that dumboinchief is a Christian.

he's not.

Let dubya be labelled as a 'Jew'

he is.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-11-24   8:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Zipporah (#0)

LaHaye figures prominently in a book I have just started reading, Craig Unger's The Fall of the House of Bush: The Untold Story of How a Band of True Believers Seized the Executive Branch, Started the Iraq War, and Still Imperils America's Future. The book makes LaHaye look like a real nut job. Unger correctly describes his views as genocidal. The fact that the mass murder would be at God's hands doesn't make it any less bad, in my opinion.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-24   9:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: aristeides, Zipporah (#20)

The book makes LaHaye look like a real nut job.

He is, and a greedy one too. When my late aunt first moved to San Diego, she attended the church he pastored. LaHaye embraced the success of his books with real gusto; changing his lifestyle (and ego) to match his new income. Although my aunt believed the rapture to just be one theory, and that no one but the Father knows, this belief is now an entire movement that has taken on a life of its own. The believers seem to think their end times philosophy needs their active help to make it happen. Very dangerous and delusional.

This is not a plus for Huckabee's campaign in the long term.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-24   9:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: aristeides (#20)

I'll bet the warmongering Zionists would just love to shift blame to the rapture folks for the failures of the Bush administration.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-24   10:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#22)

I'll bet the warmongering Zionists would just love to shift blame to the rapture folks for the failures of the Bush administration.

To judge by the first chapters of his book, Unger blames both.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-24   10:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robin (#21)

LaHaye's rapture theory

see Tim LaHaye's Luciferian, Knights Templar, [Judeo-] Masonic, Moonie, and Council for National Policy connections.

http://www.watch.pair.com/lahaye.html

note the fecundating cross and crown....it's one of the main reasons i dropped out of the local baptist church....

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-11-24   10:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24)

My Baptist maternal gr-grandfather was a Mason (b. 1861 in MO), and he was very religious. My uncle was/is a Mason and not at all religious. I'm not sure if there was/is a relationship, but I can believe Masons are being used in some way. SShhhhh! It's all secret!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-11-24   10:41:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin (#25) (Edited)

yes, they are being used. it's unfortunate. most have no idea what they are involved in. the clueless ones are a cover with all their good deeds for the evil that's done by those in the inner circle, who are using them as stepping-stones, and will destroy them in the end.

[edit: the clueless ones are a cover with all their good deeds for the evil that's done by those in the inner circle Actually it's a lot more than that: "thou shall always conceal, and shall not reveal the crimes of thy fellow mason" Government, police, judiciary is full of them, advancing the agenda and covering it up.]

Freemasonry is Jewish:

B'Nai B'rith speech in red at bottom of page: "...We have founded many secret associations, which all work for our purpose, under our orders and our direction. We have made it an honor, a great honor, for the Gentiles to join us in our organizations (such as Masonry), which are, thanks to our gold, flourishing now more than ever. Yet it remains our secret that those Gentiles who betray their own and most precious interests, by joining us in our plot, should never know that those associations are of our creation, and that they serve our purpose. One of the many triumphs of our Freemasonry is that those Gentiles who become members of our Lodges, should never suspect that we are using them to build their own jails, upon whose terraces we shall erect the throne of our Universal King of the Jews; and should never know that we are commanding them to forge the chains of their own servility to our future King of the World . . ." www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm

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***Cutting Edge Ministries Freemasonry - It's In The News. FREEMASONRY -- TWO ORGANIZATIONS, ONE VISIBLE, THE OTHER INVISIBLE This is a short article we hope every Mason will read before he begins to read any of our ... www.cuttingedge.org/fmcorner.html

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"Terminated! Freemasonry's Final Revelation

The Red Symphony Part 2 By Henry Makow PhD 11-16-3

Freemasons "have to die at the hands of the revolution which has been brought about with their cooperation," according to C.G. Rakovsky, a founder of the Communist International.

"The real secret of masonry is the suicide of Freemasonry as an organization, and the physical suicide of every important mason."

This disclosure is from a 1938 Stalinist police interrogation entitled "The Red Symphony." (Transcript in Des Griffin, Fourth Reich of the Rich, p. 254)

"It is clear that I know of this not as a Freemason, but as one who belongs to 'Them,'" [the Illuminati] says Rakovsky, a colleague of Leon Trotsky arrested for plotting against Stalin.

Rakovsky's aim is to convince Stalin, a nationalist, to cooperate with the "the Communist-Capitalist International." I introduced this 50-page expose last week as "Rothschilds Conduct 'Red Symphony' " www.savethemales.ca/000275.html ..." www.savethemales.ca/000280.html

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'PROTOCOLS OF ZION' AND 'RED SYMPHONY'

Freemasonry is the world's largest secret society with over five million members, including three million in the US. It is instrumental in the totalitarian conspiracy. www.savethemales.ca/300902.html

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A Pastor and Freemasonry: What's a Pastor to do? by Harmon R. Taylor www.biblebelievers.org.au/mason2.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-11-24   11:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#26)

I'm a Catholic, and so a member of a church that condemns the Masons.

But, to be fair, weren't most of the Founding Fathers Masons?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-24   11:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: aristeides (#27)

weren't most of the Founding Fathers Masons?

yes...and that is the problem....they were advancing an ancient agenda.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-11-24   11:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#28)

Well, if you think the Founding Fathers got it wrong, and were basically part of some conspiracy, I don't think you'll get many people to agree with you.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-11-24   11:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: aristeides (#29) (Edited)

Well, if you think the Founding Fathers got it wrong, and were basically part of some conspiracy, I don't think you'll get many people to agree with you.

you're probably right....and the Bible would probably agree with you...it says many would be deceived.

http://www.watch.pair.com/MasonicPlan.html

http://www.sweetliberty.org/pers...e/jewishpersecution18.htm

http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/apotheos.HTM

http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/romeus.HTM

http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/mark.html

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"....Senator Joseph McCarthy did much research on the Communist conspiracy. He came too close when he discovered British Israel and its Kingdom Message propaganda. The following quotes are from an article with the title: GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER: "And many of the people of the land became Jews." Esther 9:17. "The confession of General Cornwallis to General Washington at Yorktown has been well hidden by historians. History books and text books have taught for years that when Cornwallis surrendered his army to General Washington that American independence came, and we lived happily ever after until the tribulations of the twentieth century."

"Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown." Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction: "Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry." And indeed George Washington himself was a Mason, and he gave back through a false religion what he had won with his army.

"Cornwallis well knew that his military defeat was only the beginning of world catastrophe that would be universal and that unrest would continue until mind control could be accomplished through a false religion. What he predicted has come to pass. A brief sketch of American religious history and we have seen Masonry infused into every church in America With their veiled Phallic religion.

"Darby and the Plymouth Brethren brought a Jewish Christianity to America. Masons Rutherford and Russell started Jehovah Witnesses' Judaism which is now worldwide with their message of the divine kingdom. Mason Joseph Smith started Mormon Judaism with its Jewish teaching of millennialism.

"At the turn of the twentieth century there appeared the Scofield Bible with a Jewish interpretation of the prophecies. With wide use of this "helpful" aid all the American churches have silently become synagogues. We now have Baptist Jews, Methodist Jews, Church of God Jews, apostate Catholic Jews, and many Protestant Jews throughout America. We are aliens in our own country because of false religion. All are praying for divine deliverance into that "Divine Government" which Cornwallis knew to be the British Empire.

"A false religion has been used to deceive us into allegiance to our enemies of Yorktown and Bunker Hill. No! Not a gun has been fired but the invisible and malignant process of conquering America with the Jew's religion has gone on unabated. The Union Jack has been planted in our hearts with religious deception. All has happened "legally," "constitutionally," "freely" and completely within our most sacred trust -- our churches. Religious deception is painless innoculation against truth. It cannot be removed from the conscience with surgery, yet it is the motivator of our actions and directly controls our lives. Once man gives over to false religion, he is no longer rational because he originates no thought. His life is controlled by whomever controls his religion.

"The veil of false religion is the sword of Damocles and its power to control humanity defies even the imagination of tyrants who use it."

"This is not to say that George Washington was a traitor willingly, or knowingly. He was beguiled into a Satanic religious order that insidiously controls men's minds. So have American statesmen and military leaders down through the years given aid and allegiance to the enemies of the United States because they did not have knowledge of the invisible subterfuge that stalks this land. My eyes were opened the day my colleague from Ohio handed me Wagner's FREEMASONRY AN INTERPRETATION. If every American would read it, they would no longer ask why and how it has happened."

Given by Senator Joseph McCarthy, six months before his mouth was closed forever. End of quote from GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER. ...."

The Greatest Hoax - The Union Jack

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issu...ax/unionjack_epilogue.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-11-24   12:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Vitamin Z (#8)

This just in:

You must be registered with the correct party to vote for Ron Paul in states with CLOSED PRIMARIES.

Click Primarily Paul and scroll down to the State by State chart.

Peppa  posted on  2007-11-24   22:03:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Zipporah (#0)

Mike Huckabee, the Republican presidential candidate and former Southern Baptist minister, is getting help from Tim LaHaye, the Christian conservative organizer and co-author of the apocalyptic “Left Behind” novels.

Well, that clinches it for me.

Go Huckleberry go! /sarc

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-11-26   19:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Peppa (#31)

..fasting, LAXATIVES and lipo? good gawd

Zipporah  posted on  2007-11-26   19:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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