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Title: Police defend use of Taser on girl, 13
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The Jacksonville Times-Union
URL Source: http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-onli ... ries/030205/met_18105893.shtml
Published: Mar 2, 2005
Author: DANA TREEN
Post Date: 2007-11-26 19:25:40 by FormerLurker
Keywords: JackBootedThugs, Brutality, Tasers
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Jacksonville police are defending the decision to use a stun gun on a 13-year-old girl at least twice and perhaps more because she wouldn't follow orders, but the state attorney said the incident raises "serious concerns." The 65-pound girl was in the back of a patrol car Feb. 7 when she was jolted by a 50,000-volt Taser being used in stun-gun mode, according to a Sheriff's Office report. A Taser typically fires two barbs into a target through which electricity is focused, but in stun-gun mode direct contact is made with the target. This was two weeks before Sheriff John Rutherford announced a moratorium on Taser use by police. Police were called to the girl's Collins Road apartment because she was fighting with her mother. The girl, Llahsmin Lynn Kallead, was handcuffed and placed into a patrol car but managed to slide her cuffed arms to the front of her. Police said she refused to put her arms behind her and started kicking the inside of the cruiser. That's when she was zapped. Police said there were two jolts, but Kallead said Tuesday she counted five times and showed a reporter five marks on her back and legs she said were caused by the stun gun. "I saw her jump from one side of the police car to the other" from the shock, her mother, Rosie Vaughan, said Tuesday. "She shook." The teen said it felt like multiple jolts of static electricity. "It was like a bunch of them on my back," she said. Rutherford was unavailable for comment Tuesday. Undersheriff Frank Mackesy said the Sheriff's Office is reviewing the case but defended using the devices. He said the technique used on the girl was vastly different from the common shooting of barbs into a victim. "It's a localized application that doesn't seize the body up," he said. "It only hurts the area where you put it." A State Attorney's Office investigator has contacted the family. "I have serious concerns and have discussed this with the sheriff," State Attorney Harry Shorstein said Tuesday. Misdemeanor domestic battery charges against Kallead were dropped 10 days after she was arrested and taken to a juvenile detention facility overnight. The charges had been dismissed when the girl and her mother returned for a court appearance Feb. 17. Kallead, who is 4-foot-8, was fighting with her mother when police were called. Vaughan told officers they were arguing about the girl being late, and an older daughter called police. "I said she had kicked me a couple of times and I had held her down," Vaughan said. Vaughan told police her daughter was taking medication for emotional disorders and had been hospitalized for observation in the recent past. She said she feared her daughter would run away or harm herself and hoped police could get her medical help. Instead, she said, police handcuffed the girl and put her in the car. After Kallead slipped the cuffs to the front, police said they told her to put her arms behind her back but she became combative. One officer use a hold on her jaw and twisted her arm in a move designed to subdue a person but wrote in the report, "I feared further force on the suspect's arm would cause her harm, [due to her small size] so I disengaged the suspect." That's when Officer G.A. Nelson used the Taser, according to the report. Mackesy said he called for an internal police investigation the same week that the incident happened. It is not yet complete, he said. "The reason I did that is because of the age and size of the suspect," he said. "Just because she was small does not mean she was frail." The Sheriff's Office suspended the use of Tasers Feb. 22 following public pressure about their use. The department spent $1.8 million for 1,800 of the devices and began widespread deployment before the Super Bowl Feb. 6. Rutherford, who took a full jolt from a Taser in January to demonstrate his faith in their safety, also planned to equip school resource officers with the weapons. The Sheriff's Office has suspended their use until a more detailed policy and training program are created. dana.treen 
Rosie Vaughan said she feared her daughter, Llahsmin Lynn Kallead, 13, would run away or harm herself and hoped police could get her medical help after they were called to their Collins Road home because she and the girl were fighting. Instead, the girl was handcuffed and placed in a patrol car where she was shocked with a stun gun for refusing to follow orders.
BOB SELF/The Times-Union
Last modified Wed., March 02, 2005 - 01:23 AM
Originally created Wednesday, March 2, 2005Police defend use of Taser on girl, 13
State attorney cites "serious concerns" about incident, which is under investigation.
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#1. To: robin, All (#0)
That little girl looks really vicious doesn't she...
This is insane.
Well they probably learned a valuable lesson - don't call the cops for most family situations.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" 65 pounds, what's a Sheriff to do?
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So what is the punishment for telling lies?
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Waterboarding perhaps?
There should be a class action lawsuit against the police departments and the manufacturer of this so-called "safe" weapon. Perhaps a punch in the proverbial bread basket might cause them to reconsider their casual use.
Most people that haven't experienced first hand the "love" of the local police force have this dumb idea that police are there to help.
"I said she had kicked me a couple of times and I had held her down," Vaughan said. Vaughan told police her daughter was taking medication for emotional disorders and had been hospitalized for observation in the recent past. She said she feared her daughter would run away or harm herself and hoped police could get her medical help. Doesn't exactly sound like this girl is a little "angel". BUT, the real problem is mommy. (I wonder where daddy is?) What this child needed (apparently a long time ago) was a good spanking or two. Some proper discipline administered at the right time, and she wouldn't have these "emotional disorders" and be on medication now... The medications have about as good a chance of making matters worse than better anyhow. This isn't to say the JBTs needed to resort to this. BUT, dammit, we didn't have these kinds of problems when I was a kid, and I didn't have them with my kids either... I don't even want to THINK about what would have happened if I'd KICKED my mom!!! But I'd venture to guess it would have hurt longer than the pain from a stun gun...
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. God knows that in this year alone, there are more than enough reported tasings to form quite a class of plaintiffs.
What this child needed (apparently a long time ago) was a good spanking or two. Some proper discipline administered at the right time, and she wouldn't have these "emotional disorders" and be on medication now... These days, if a parent spanks a child more often than not he or she is charged with assault and taken away. And if the school recommends "counseling" and the parents refuse, the children are forcibly removed by the "Department of Social Services". It's pretty much like 1984. The medications have about as good a chance of making matters worse than better anyhow. That's the whole idea. I don't even want to THINK about what would have happened if I'd KICKED my mom!!! But I'd venture to guess it would have hurt longer than the pain from a stun gun... At least it couldn't have killed you.
Yep. That's because the child doesn't belong to the parents, it belongs to the STATE. Can't be "harming" the STATE'S property you know. True. Might have THOUGHT so at the time... America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. I've never spanked a kid. I just slapped them across the back of the head.
Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.
This is America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. Got their attention didn't it?
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. I've always thought a jar to the brain was better than a smack to the ass. I took my clue from animals, who don't spank their young but cuff them. I figured, what was good enough for them was good enough for me. Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.
Mommy is not the problem. Daddy ran away with another woman. Typical! You'll never understand unless it is your own child. Handcuffed child being hit with a stun gun. Real good picture. Never able to forget. But thanks!
That's when Officer G.A. Nelson used the Taser, according to the report. A taser is safer than a firm hold on her arm?
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' That's when Officer G.A. Nelson used the Taser, according to the report. The nice policeman should have a hard time convincing any reasonable person of this I'd like to see these Their time is coming.
I wonder what would happen to a 13-year-old girl if she shot a cop's balls off? I don't mean, "The cops would kill her," I mean legally.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#2. To: FormerLurker (#1)
#3. To: FormerLurker (#1)
#4. To: FormerLurker (#1)
The 65-pound girl was in the back of a patrol car Feb. 7 when she was jolted by a 50,000-volt Taser being used in stun-gun mode, according to a Sheriff's Office report. A Taser typically fires two barbs into a target through which electricity is focused, but in stun-gun mode direct contact is made with the target.
#5. To: FormerLurker (#0)
That's when she was zapped. Police said there were two jolts, but Kallead said Tuesday she counted five times and showed a reporter five marks on her back and legs she said were caused by the stun gun.
#6. To: robin (#5)
So what is the punishment for telling lies?
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#7. To: lodwick (#2)
This is insane.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#8. To: tom007 (#3)
Well they probably learned a valuable lesson - don't call the cops for most family situations.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#9. To: FormerLurker (#0)
Kallead, who is 4-foot-8, was fighting with her mother when police were called. Vaughan told officers they were arguing about the girl being late, and an older daughter called police.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#10. To: FormerLurker (#7)
There should be a class action lawsuit against the police departments and the manufacturer of this so-called "safe" weapon.
#11. To: innieway (#9)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#12. To: FormerLurker (#11)
These days, if a parent spanks a child more often than not he or she is charged with assault and taken away. And if the school recommends "counseling" and the parents refuse, the children are forcibly removed by the "Department of Social Services".
Parents relinquished ownership of their child to the state when they filled out a birth certificate application. The birth certificate is then sent to the Department of Commerce, and the child becomes a Human Resource. At that point the parents are relegated to the position of guardians over the child, and the child is a ward of the state. Now isn't that just special? At least it couldn't have killed you.
I don't know how bad a stun gun hurts, and don't really want to know. BUT I can tell you from childhood experience, pissing on a hotwire fence is NOT a very pleasurable thing!!!
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#13. To: innieway (#9)
#14. To: lodwick (#2)
This is insane.
insane Orwellian, and going to get worse.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#15. To: YertleTurtle (#13)
I've never spanked a kid. I just slapped them across the back of the head.
Claire Wolfe
H. Jackson Brown
#16. To: innieway (#15)
(Edited)
Got their attention didn't it?
#17. To: innieway (#9)
BUT, the real problem is mommy. (I wonder where daddy is?)
#18. To: FormerLurker (#0)
One officer use a hold on her jaw and twisted her arm in a move designed to subdue a person but wrote in the report, "I feared further force on the suspect's arm would cause her harm, [due to her small size] so I disengaged the suspect."
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#19. To: FormerLurker, *Jack-Booted Thugs* (#0)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#20. To: FormerLurker (#0)
After Kallead slipped the cuffs to the front, police said they told her to put her arms behind her back but she became combative. One officer use a hold on her jaw and twisted her arm in a move designed to subdue a person but wrote in the report, "I feared further force on the suspect's arm would cause her harm, [due to her small size] so I disengaged the suspect."
bullshit nonsense. fuckers fellas publicly bum-raped humiliated.
“The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.” ~ J. Edgar Hoover
#21. To: wudidiz (#20)
#22. To: FormerLurker (#0)
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