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Title: Papal encyclical attacks atheism, lauds hope
Source: Rueters
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071130/wl_nm/pope_encyclical_dc
Published: Nov 30, 2007
Author: Philip Pullella
Post Date: 2007-11-30 14:11:08 by richard9151
Keywords: None
Views: 72
Comments: 2

Fri Nov 30, 10:38 AM ET

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict, in an encyclical released on Friday, said atheism was responsible for some of the "greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice" in history.

Uh, would that mean, like, the Inquistion? Maybe? Or, the estimated death of 10 million in Europe caused by the Roman church over the Reformation? Just curious, ya know?

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Inquisition

By this term is usually meant a special ecclesiastical institutional for combating or suppressing heresy.

Yessirrebob; a REALLY REALLY Christian approach to preaching the Word of God!

The 75-page "Spe Salvi," which takes its Latin title from a quote by St Paul (in hope we were saved), is an appeal to a pessimistic world to find strength in Christian hope.

In the second encyclical of his papacy, Benedict urges Christians to put their hope for the future in God and not in technology, wealth or political ideologies.

Atheism could be regarded by some as a "type of moralism," particularly in the 19th and 20th centuries, to protest against the injustices of the world and world history, he said.

Reciting arguments made by atheists, he said: "A world marked by so much injustice, innocent suffering and cynicism of power cannot be the work of a good God. A God with responsibility for such a world would not be a just God, much less a good God."

History has proven wrong ideologies such as Marxism which say humans had to establish social justice because God did not exist, the Pope wrote.

"It is no accident that this idea has led to the greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice," the Pope said. Such a concept was grounded in "intrinsic falsity."

Uh, would that mean, like, the Inquistion? Maybe? Or, the estimated death of 10 million in Europe caused by the Roman church over the Reformation? Just curious, ya know?

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Inquisition

By this term is usually meant a special ecclesiastical institutional for combating or suppressing heresy.

Yessirrebob; a REALLY REALLY Christian approach to preaching the Word of God!

Marxism, the Pope wrote, had left behind "a trail of appalling destruction" because it failed to realize that man could not be "merely the product of economic conditions."

ATHEISTS REACT

The encyclical is the highest form of papal writing and addresses all members of the Church. This document is written in a highly academic, professorial style in which the Pope quotes saints, philosophers and writers to make his point.

Atheism has been a hot topic recently thanks to best-selling books questioning the value of religion such as "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins and "God is Not Great" by Christopher Hitchens.

The Pope seemed to be addressing the fresh interest in atheism in the developed world with phrases such as: "Let us put it very simply: man needs God, otherwise he remains without hope."

Italy's Union of Atheists, Agnostics and Rationalists (UAAR) said by taking such stands the Pope would push more people away from the Church.

The above is a true statement, and shows exactly what is behind the issueance of this trite paper.

"The existence of a billion non-believers in the world should be enough to make the Pope understand that man can live very well without God, but with reason," a statement said.

The Pope urged Christians to put their hope for a better future in God.

Except that.... the pope has nothing to do with Christianity. See the book, Two Babylons. Get the entire book FREE here; www.biblebelievers.org.au/2babindx.htm

"We have all witnessed the way in which progress, in the wrong hands, can become and has indeed become a terrifying progress in evil. If technical progress is not matched by corresponding progress in man's ethical formation, in man's inner growth, then it is not progress at all, but a threat for man and for the world," he said.

Christian hope also meant protecting the planet, even if people felt powerless to make changes in their lifetimes, he said.

"We can free our life and the world from the poisons and contaminations that could destroy the present and the future. We can uncover the sources of creation and keep them unsullied, and in this way we can make a right use of creation, which comes to us as a gift..." he said.

(Editing by Janet Lawrence)


www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/inquisition1.html

INQUISITION: INTRODUCTION by David Burr When medieval people used the word "inquisition," they were referring to a judicial technique, not an organization. There was , in fact, no such thing as "the Inquisition" in the sense of an impersonal organization with a chain of command. Instead there were "inquisitors of heretical depravity," individuals assigned by the pope to inquire into heresy in specific areas. They were called such because they applied a judicial technique known as inquisitio, which could be translated as "inquiry" or "inquest." In this process, which was already widely used by secular rulers (Henry II used it extensively in England in the twelfth century), an official inquirer called for information on a specific subject from anyone who felt he or she had something to offer. This information was treated as confidential. The inquirer, aided by competent consultants, then weighed the evidence and determined whether there was reason for action. This procedure stood in stark contrast to the Roman law practice normally used in ecclesiastical courts, in which, unless the judge could proceed on clear, personal knowledge that the defendant was guilty, judicial process had to be based on an accusation by a third party who was punishable if the accusation was not proved, and in which the defendant could confront witnesses.

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Whatever someone 'believes' about the Roman church, it should be noted that the church does not admit to error, EVER. As such, the Inquisition stands on its own merits, without apology. Just as the wars that the Roman church has started, i.e., the war in Europe over the The Protestant Reformation and the Crusades, stand without apology.

And, just as the bringing of Xmas, Easter (Ester) and countless other pagan practices, including all rituals of the church, into the lives of thousands of 'believers' stand without apology. To me, it is no wonder that so many do not accept what such churches offer; more amazing to me is that so many do accept!

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

they deserve all the credibility you would give any child raping, torturing, drug money laundering perverted piece of trash.

Gypsy woman said to me, one thing you must bear in your mind:
You are young and you are free, but damned if youre deceased in your own lifetime.

The Core, Eric Clapton

gengis gandhi  posted on  2007-11-30   14:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: gengis gandhi (#1)

they deserve all the credibility you would give any child raping, torturing, drug money laundering perverted piece of trash.

Very well said.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-11-30   14:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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