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Title: THE NEW OFFICIAL "Loose Change Final Cut" - Now on Google Video
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Published: Dec 1, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-12-01 19:57:38 by robin
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Louder Than Words

2 hr 10 min 8 sec - Nov 11, 200

www.livevideo.com

Loose Change Final Cut - Loose Change Final Cut

A Louder Than Words Production - The Loose Change crew did a great job compiling this ... all » massive amount of evidence in support for a new investigation. This is a great starting point for anyone who is interested in 911 truth. But viewer beware, certain highly discussed subjects within the truth movement have been withheld from the audience; whether for simplicity's sake, or rather as an attempt to keep your minds under control of the military industrial complex, I am NOT amused. Media complicity, including foreknowledge and premeditated cooperation are extravagantly evident with in all the recorded media of that day. In fact the event itself was a military level media hoax/psychological operation/black op. Once you search a little further down the rabbit hole you will find that Loose Change has only dug so deep. Kudos to all you European Truthers, I know your watchin'...

recommended video documentaries

Google Video: "Morgan Reynolds Fox News" "911 The Explosive Reality" "September 11 Television Archive" (includes 3 days straight of all nationwide news stations) "TV Fakery"

Livevideo.com: "September Clues" "911 a Fake Odyssey" "911 Flatline" "911 octopus"

If you would like to support Loose Change goto www.loosechangefinalcut.com and order a High Quality DVD, or search a torrent site for it...

Alex Jones, Loose Change, you used to be my heroes, but you are either compromised, or are still trapped in the matrix. TV FAKERY SHALL NO LONGER BE TABOO.

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#14. To: Mister Clean (#11)

It seems Charlie Sheen was threatened. His father speaks out here; http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/291007_sheen_questions.htm

www.911blogger.com/node/7156



Fox and O'Reilly Threaten Sheen Over Narrating Loose Change 3rd Edition - jonesreport.com

FOX News Threatens Sheen & Cuban Not to Make Film
Report that Actor Might Narrate Theatrical Version of Loose Change Prompts Mafioso O'Reilly to Warn Against Film's Distribution-- "You're Not Gonna Come Back"

FOX News' Bill O'Reilly warned actor Charlie Sheen not to do narration for a theatrical version of Loose Change, threatening "If he voices this, he's through" and stating plainly, "Don't do this. You're not gonna come back from it if you do."

This follows a hit piece by the New York Post's Page 6 who suggested "some celebrities don't know when to keep their mouths shut" after reporting on mainstream actors Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen's 'throwing their weight" behind 'twisted theories' regarding 9/11-- especially in light of reporting that Loose Change may be distributed by Dallas Mavericks owner and billionaire Mark Cuban.

Despite mafioso-like tactics on the part of both O'Reilly and the Post, O'Reilly claimed that his attempt at intimidation was "not a threat" while his guest, Det. Bo Dietl, dog-piled into the cryptic warnings that "Martin Sheen's kid there better watch it."

In reality, O'Reilly is so desperate to contain 9/11 Truth-- and bat away support from mainstream celebrities from publicly supporting what he calls the "far-left fringe-- that he has little recourse but to lump vague threats on top of untenable straw men arguments and ad hominem attacks-- which were also included in the hit piece.

Guest Det. Bo Dietl claimed that 9/11 Truth was a "disgrace to the families"-- despite that fact that most of the families support a new, independent investigation of 9/11 and that the head of the largest 9/11 families group, Bill Doyle, knows that 9/11 was an inside job. Doyle also reports that over half of the families completely distrust the government's official story.

Guest Gerald Posner-- also a shill/author for the JFK official story-- slandered that O'Donnell's posting of information about the WTC7 collapse shouldn't be allowed and is like saying the "Holocaust didn't exist." This anti-semitic theme was repeated by he and other guests in attempts to compare Loose Change "propaganda" with that of the 3rd Reich and to link 9/11 Truth with theories that Israel carried out the attacks.

Meanwhile, what the New York Post called 'Hollywood's 9/11 Idiot Brigade' was also referred to on FOX as "wackos," "complete moron stuff" and-- conversely-- 'slick disinformation' 'like Oliver Stone's JFK propaganda' film.

While Dietl threatened "We won't watch that 2 1/2 kids thing at all," it was clear in O'Reilly's demeanor that full realization of defeat had sunk in-- the 9/11 cover-up had failed.

Just as Det. Dietl tried to explain away the WTC7 implosion-- which he acknowledged, but claimed was due to the 'heaviness' of debris from the towers, which he said "melted like potato chips"-- O'Reilly cut off his side's fruitless attempts to debate on the basis of logical, "DON'T CONFUSE THEM WITH FACTS" bridging instead into more familiar territory-- "I just don't get the hatred for the country."

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   11:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mister Clean (#13) (Edited)

The Truth About Charlie Sheen & Loose Change
www.prisonplanet.com/arti...280507truthaboutsheen.htm

Concerted effort of controlled media to spin actor's role in film, attack 9/11 truth movement

RELATED: Charlie Sheen Responds To New York Post Hit Piece

The New York Post and others have undertaken a concerted attack on 9/11 truth, erecting a wall of unified lies and spin in an attempt to make it appear as if Charlie Sheen and Rosie O'Donnell are backing away from the movement.

In an article entitled Sheen Rethinks Nutty 9/11 Film, tabloid hack Richard Johnson writes;

SUPPORT for the loopy 9/11 documentary "Loose Change" - which argues that the World Trade Center terror attack was part of a secret U.S. government conspiracy - is quickly losing steam.

A source tells us Charlie Sheen "is having second thoughts" about being involved in an updated version of the flick, which has a huge following on YouTube. As Page Six reported in March, Sheen had agreed to narrate the ridiculous flick, presumably to give it some needed Hollywood sizzle.

As we have come to expect from Johnson, his hit piece is factually bankrupt - Charlie Sheen never agreed to narrate the movie - he has been in talks to explore this possibility but will not come to a final decision until after the film is completed. Johnson and the New York Post got it flat wrong when they reported back in March that Sheen had "agreed to narrate a new version of the loopy YouTube documentary "Loose Change" and have now resorted to stacking lie upon lie to cover their initial screw up.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   11:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#14)

FOX News' Bill O'Reilly warned actor Charlie Sheen not to do narration for a theatrical version of Loose Change, threatening "If he voices this, he's through" and stating plainly, "Don't do this. You're not gonna come back from it if you do."

This follows a hit piece by the New York Post's Page 6 who suggested "some celebrities don't know when to keep their mouths shut" after reporting on mainstream actors Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen's 'throwing their weight" behind 'twisted theories' regarding 9/11-- especially in light of reporting that Loose Change may be distributed by Dallas Mavericks owner and billionaire Mark Cuban.

So Sheen and Cuban are big wimps.

Got it.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   11:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mister Clean (#16)

Charlie Sheen never agreed to narrate the movie - he has been in talks to explore this possibility but will not come to a final decision until after the film is completed.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   11:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#17)

Charlie Sheen never agreed to narrate the movie

Smart guy.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   11:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin, Honway (#0)

Alex Jones, Loose Change, you used to be my heroes, but you are either compromised, or are still trapped in the matrix. TV FAKERY SHALL NO LONGER BE TABOO.

I wonder about the significance of these remarks. It looks like the person who posted this video has a bone to pick with loose change and AJ. Which parts of this movie led him to say that? hmmm....

I watched it a while ago on google.nl.

I noticed it was a bit better than the 1st, but it still left out some important facts. I think parts of Pandoras Black Box Chapter Two should have been indcluded, concerning the pentagon, and Honway pretty much proved that the so called damage to the S.W. corner of building 7 didn't exist. I think Honway may have distributed that info about, and I know I did, to every credit worthy 9/11 site out there.

So while it is better than the 1st, it is still lacking some serious evidence.

I guess maybe they had to leave out some stuff or it would have to be a 6 week mini series. lol

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Critter  posted on  2007-12-02   11:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Mister Clean (#18)

Smart guy.

You should be envious of people with the capacity to think.

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Critter  posted on  2007-12-02   11:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Critter (#20)

You should be envious of people with the capacity to think.

So you think Sheen was smart to avoid the "Loose Change" foolishness too.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   11:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Mister Clean (#21)

Depends on what motivates him. If his career is important to him, then it could be considered a smart move. His career would probably have been toast.

That in itself though, is more evidence that the official story is a big lie. Why would the attack dogs be sent out to silence someone if not to protect the lie?

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Critter  posted on  2007-12-02   11:56:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Mister Clean (#13)

What, do you have a problem with the truth? The way you put quote marks around it would indicate that.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Critter (#22)

Why would the attack dogs be sent out to silence someone if not to protect the lie?

So is everyone who criticizes the "truth" movement really in on the conspiracy?

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: James Deffenbach (#23)

What, do you have a problem with the truth?

9/11 "truth" is just another conspiracy theory.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:05:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Mister Clean (#25)

And the official version of events is what? To claim (and believe) that not just one but three steel-framed skyscrapers collapsed in one day due to fire when none ever had before or since and which were designed to withstand the impacts of planes as big as the ones that hit 1 and 2 (and no plane hit 7) is goofy beyond belief. Only someone sold out lock, stock and barrel to the government would believe any such deluded nonsense.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:12:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

And the official version of events is what?

The most believable and credible explanation.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mister Clean (#24)

So is everyone who criticizes the "truth" movement really in on the conspiracy?

I don't know, you tell me.

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Critter  posted on  2007-12-02   12:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Critter (#28)

So is everyone who criticizes the "truth" movement really in on the conspiracy?

I don't know, you tell me.

To paranoid people, definitely.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

One interesting angle of investigation is the Bush-appointees on the 9/11 commission. For example:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Lehman

who is a member of the Center for Security Policy.

Were any of their ambitions bolstered by 9/11 commission report content?

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-02   12:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Mister Clean (#27)

Well, of course it is--or would be if we weren't being asked to believe what almost any sane person would right off as the ravings of crackpots. If you believe the Official Party Line™ about the events of 9/11 it is obvious you haven't done much research or you're just willing to believe whatever the government says, no matter how ridiculous it is.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeye (#30)

What about the fact that Bush tried to foist Kissinger off on us for the coverup? LOL!

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: James Deffenbach (#32)

That was amusing. More amusing in hindsight, given Kissinger's connections to the Rockefeller family.

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-02   12:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Critter (#19)

There is some dissent among the 9/11 truth movement. I'm not sure what this guy's problem is with AJ, he doesn't explain himself here.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   12:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: James Deffenbach (#31)

If you believe the Official Party Line™ about the events of 9/11 it is obvious you haven't done much research or you're just willing to believe whatever the government says, no matter how ridiculous it is.

I believe the US government pissed off the wrong Muslims who then decided to get some revenge by attacking US targets in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kenya and Tanzania, Lebanon and so on until they were able to do something here in the US.

You believe in something built entirely on speculation.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Mister Clean (#35)

But you just indulged in speculation yourself!

What the 9/11 truth movement has proven is that the official govt explanation is BULLSHIT. In fact, the govt explanation is so utterly without science and logic, it requires fairy dust to believe in it.

Exactly what happened on 9/11 is where the speculation comes into the 9/11 truth movement.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   12:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Mister Clean (#35)

Yeah, that's the ticket. 19 ragheads (most, if not all of whom were Saudis by the way), "hated us for our freedom" and under the direction of another raghead in a cave in Afghanistan commandeered jetliners which none of them could fly. Because the ones they claimed were doing the flying couldn't fly a freakin' Cessna! You and your handlers need to come up with better stories. Of course you and people like you can get over on people who never pay any attention and who believe just about anything that has an official stamp on it but thinking people's bs meters go off when they hear tales like that.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: robin (#36)

But you just indulged in speculation yourself!

Not at all. Muslim extremists have been attacking US targets for many years now because of US foreign policy.

What the 9/11 truth movement has proven is that the official govt explanation is BULLSHIT. In fact, the govt explanation is so utterly without science and logic, it requires fairy dust to believe in it.

The "truth" movement has "proven" nothing. The entire "truth" movement is built on speculation based mostly on video clips.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Mister Clean (#11)

I suspect he came to his senses.

Obviously you have not.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mister Clean (#38)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:41:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: James Deffenbach (#37)

Yeah, that's the ticket. 19 ragheads (most, if not all of whom were Saudis by the way), "hated us for our freedom"

I never said they "hated us for our freedom."

and under the direction of another raghead in a cave in Afghanistan commandeered jetliners which none of them could fly. Because the ones they claimed were doing the flying couldn't fly a freakin' Cessna! You and your handlers need to come up with better stories. Of course you and people like you can get over on people who never pay any attention and who believe just about anything that has an official stamp on it but thinking people's bs meters go off when they hear tales like that.

Classic conspiracy theory mentality: anyone who doesn't believe in the conspiracy is a non-thinker. You people are as arrogant as the neocons.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Mister Clean (#38)

The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie

911Truth.org ::::: The 9/11 Truth Movement
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www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050523112738404 - 47k - Jan 23, 2007 - Cached -

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Mister Clean (#38)

Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77

By Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D

Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001
Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77. By Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D. I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, ...
www.physics911.net/olmsted - 22k - Cached -

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Mister Clean (#38)

THE FEMA REPORT ON WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 COLLAPSE IS A TOTAL JOKE ...
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www.whatreallyhappened.com/fema_report.html - 105k - Cached -

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Mister Clean (#41)

1. I never said they "hated us for our freedom."

2. Classic conspiracy theory mentality: anyone who doesn't believe in the conspiracy is a non-thinker. You people are as arrogant as the neocons.

1. So you don't believe in the fuehrer's pronouncement? And anyone who hates Americans for their alleged freedom have been woefully mislead. People today aren't nearly as free as their grandparents or great-grandparents were.

2. And anyone who believes in the Official Party Line™ about the events of 9/11 may not be arrogant but they sure are ignorant. And that is not a slam. Ignorance can be cured through education if people want to overcome it but willful stupidity is forever.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TwentyTwelve, Mister Clean (#44)

With all due respect you don't actually believe that he is going to read any of the stuff you linked for him, do you? People like that don't want to be confused with any facts because their alleged minds are already made up.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Mister Clean (#38)

Not at all. Muslim extremists have been attacking US targets for many years now because of US foreign policy.

So the best way to commit murder is to mimic the current serial murderer. Not even original, Agatha Christie wrote about such a plot in the "ABC Murders", back in the '30s.

The "truth" movement has "proven" nothing. The entire "truth" movement is built on speculation based mostly on video clips.

Well that's a very limited way of looking at it. The 9/11 truth movement is also based on the testimony of New York's finest and bravest, as well as other eyewitness testimony.

The 9/11 Truth movement also gets its facts from the laws of physics.

Then there are the delicious "coincidences".

Like Lucky Larry Silverstein, who leased the WTC from the Port Authority in July of 2001:
In total, Silverstein was awarded nearly $5 billion in insurance money following the destruction of the Twin Towers [14]. He plans to use some or all of the settlement to rebuild. [15]

The FT fails to mention that Silverstein bought the $3.2 billion towers with a sliver of equity—$125 million, a whopping 4 percent down—most of it from silent partner Lloyd Goldman, whose behind-the-scenes role has never been adequately explained. Silverstein then borrowed equity—if that’s possible—from bondholders, layering on debt like a teetering Dagwood sandwich.

Then, he underinsured the property by more than half in a slapdash process that left the paperwork undone by the time the towers fell, creating the need for his dog-and-pony suit against Swiss Re and other insurers that author Steven Brill predicted, correctly, as early as April 2003, that Silverstein would lose (which he did, but only after years and hundreds of millions of dollars—enough to build something—was wasted on the legal fight).

This suit created the illusion that Silverstein could obtain $7 billion and would therefore be able to fulfill the rebuilding requirements of his lease. Without this doomed attempt to force insurers to fund the redevelopment project, Silverstein’s financial shortfall would have been obvious for the world to see. But the Port Authority, the site’s owner, supported the legal action.

Of course there is PNAC's interest in a "new Pearl Harbor event".

And if you follow the money, there were some very odd stock transactions that day.

And the president's brother was the CEO of the company in charge of the security of WTC.

There are many more coincidences, that have nothing to do with videos, if you are so disinclined to watch video clips.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   12:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: James Deffenbach, Mister Clean (#46)

With all due respect you don't actually believe that he is going to read any of the stuff you linked for him, do you?

Mister Clean does not want to know the truth.

You never know who might see this thread. People from all over the world have access to freedom4um.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   13:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Mister Clean (#38)

killtown.911review.org/oddities/2001.html

www.serendipity.li/wot/pilger_on_standdown.htm
General Ralph Eberhart, commander of the North American Aerospace Defence Command (NORAD). "Air force jet fighters could have intercepted hijacked airliners roaring towards the World Trade Center and Pentagon," he said, "if only air traffic controllers had asked for help 13 minutes sooner ... We would have been able to shoot down all three ... all four of them."

Why did this not happen?

The Kean report makes clear that "the defence of US aerospace on 9/11 was not conducted in accord with pre-existing training and protocols ... If a hijack was confirmed, procedures called for the hijack coordinator on duty to contact the Pentagon's National Military Command Center (NMCC) ... The NMCC would then seek approval from the office of the Secretary of Defence to provide military assistance ... "

Uniquely, this did not happen.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   13:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Mister Clean (#41)

• September 16, 2001 - President Bush says Osama Bin Laden is the "prime suspect."

"Q Mr. President, do you believe Osama bin Laden's denial that he had anything to do with this?

THE PRESIDENT: No question he is the prime suspect. No question about that." - White House (09/16/01)

************************************************

President Bush says Osama Bin Laden is the "prime suspect."

"Q Mr. President, do you believe Osama bin Laden's denial that he had anything to do with this?

THE PRESIDENT: No question he is the prime suspect. No question about that." - White House (09/16/01)


Remember, on June 5, 2006, FBI spokesman, Chief of Investigative Publicity Rex Tomb said, “The FBI has no hard evidence connecting Usama Bin Laden to 9/11.” This should be headline news worldwide. The challenge to the reader is to find out why it is not. Why has the U.S. media blindly read the government-provided 9/11 scripts, rather than investigate without passion, prejudice, or bias, the events of September 11, 2001? Why has the U.S. media blacklisted any guest that might speak of a government sponsored 9/11 cover-up, rather than seeking out those people who have something to say about 9/11 that is contrary to the government’s account? And on those few rare occasions when a 9/11 dissenter has made it upon the airways, why has the mainstream media ridiculed the guest as a conspiracy nut, rather than listen to the evidence that clearly raises valid questions about the government’s 9/11 account? Why is the Big Media Conglomeration blindly content with the government’s 9/11 story when so much verifiable information to the contrary is available with a few clicks of a computer mouse?

Who is it that is controlling the media message, and how is it that the U.S. media has indicted Usama Bin Laden for the events of September 11, 2001, but the U.S. government has not? How is it that the FBI has no “hard evidence” connecting Usama Bin Laden to the events of September 11, 2001, while the U.S. media has played the Bin Laden - 9/11 connection story for five years now as if it has conclusive evidence that Bin Laden is responsible for the collapse of the twin towers, the Pentagon attack, and the demise of United Flight 93?

…No hard evidence connecting Usama Bin Laden to 9/11… Think about it.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   13:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TwentyTwelve (#48)

You never know who might see this thread. People from all over the world have access to freedom4um.

Good point.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   13:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

1. So you don't believe in the fuehrer's pronouncement?

Isn't it obvious?

2. And anyone who believes in the Official Party Line™ about the events of 9/11 may not be arrogant but they sure are ignorant. And that is not a slam. Ignorance can be cured through education if people want to overcome it but willful stupidity is forever.

The conspiracy theorists are the arrogant ones who declare anyone who doesn't believe in their 9/11 "truth" to be stupid as you did above.

Get over yourself.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   13:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: James Deffenbach (#46)

With all due respect you don't actually believe that he is going to read any of the stuff you linked for him, do you?

I ignore most of TwentyTwelve's crap.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   13:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Mister Clean, James Deffenbach (#53)

I ignore most of TwentyTwelve's crap.

We know.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   13:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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