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Title: THE NEW OFFICIAL "Loose Change Final Cut" - Now on Google Video
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Post Date: 2007-12-01 19:57:38 by robin
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Louder Than Words

2 hr 10 min 8 sec - Nov 11, 200

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Loose Change Final Cut - Loose Change Final Cut

A Louder Than Words Production - The Loose Change crew did a great job compiling this ... all » massive amount of evidence in support for a new investigation. This is a great starting point for anyone who is interested in 911 truth. But viewer beware, certain highly discussed subjects within the truth movement have been withheld from the audience; whether for simplicity's sake, or rather as an attempt to keep your minds under control of the military industrial complex, I am NOT amused. Media complicity, including foreknowledge and premeditated cooperation are extravagantly evident with in all the recorded media of that day. In fact the event itself was a military level media hoax/psychological operation/black op. Once you search a little further down the rabbit hole you will find that Loose Change has only dug so deep. Kudos to all you European Truthers, I know your watchin'...

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And the official version of events is what?

The most believable and credible explanation.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So is everyone who criticizes the "truth" movement really in on the conspiracy?

I don't know, you tell me.

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Critter  posted on  2007-12-02   12:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So is everyone who criticizes the "truth" movement really in on the conspiracy?

I don't know, you tell me.

To paranoid people, definitely.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

One interesting angle of investigation is the Bush-appointees on the 9/11 commission. For example:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Lehman

who is a member of the Center for Security Policy.

Were any of their ambitions bolstered by 9/11 commission report content?

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-02   12:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, of course it is--or would be if we weren't being asked to believe what almost any sane person would right off as the ravings of crackpots. If you believe the Official Party Line™ about the events of 9/11 it is obvious you haven't done much research or you're just willing to believe whatever the government says, no matter how ridiculous it is.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What about the fact that Bush tried to foist Kissinger off on us for the coverup? LOL!

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That was amusing. More amusing in hindsight, given Kissinger's connections to the Rockefeller family.

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-02   12:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There is some dissent among the 9/11 truth movement. I'm not sure what this guy's problem is with AJ, he doesn't explain himself here.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   12:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you believe the Official Party Line™ about the events of 9/11 it is obvious you haven't done much research or you're just willing to believe whatever the government says, no matter how ridiculous it is.

I believe the US government pissed off the wrong Muslims who then decided to get some revenge by attacking US targets in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kenya and Tanzania, Lebanon and so on until they were able to do something here in the US.

You believe in something built entirely on speculation.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But you just indulged in speculation yourself!

What the 9/11 truth movement has proven is that the official govt explanation is BULLSHIT. In fact, the govt explanation is so utterly without science and logic, it requires fairy dust to believe in it.

Exactly what happened on 9/11 is where the speculation comes into the 9/11 truth movement.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   12:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, that's the ticket. 19 ragheads (most, if not all of whom were Saudis by the way), "hated us for our freedom" and under the direction of another raghead in a cave in Afghanistan commandeered jetliners which none of them could fly. Because the ones they claimed were doing the flying couldn't fly a freakin' Cessna! You and your handlers need to come up with better stories. Of course you and people like you can get over on people who never pay any attention and who believe just about anything that has an official stamp on it but thinking people's bs meters go off when they hear tales like that.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But you just indulged in speculation yourself!

Not at all. Muslim extremists have been attacking US targets for many years now because of US foreign policy.

What the 9/11 truth movement has proven is that the official govt explanation is BULLSHIT. In fact, the govt explanation is so utterly without science and logic, it requires fairy dust to believe in it.

The "truth" movement has "proven" nothing. The entire "truth" movement is built on speculation based mostly on video clips.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I suspect he came to his senses.

Obviously you have not.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:41:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, that's the ticket. 19 ragheads (most, if not all of whom were Saudis by the way), "hated us for our freedom"

I never said they "hated us for our freedom."

and under the direction of another raghead in a cave in Afghanistan commandeered jetliners which none of them could fly. Because the ones they claimed were doing the flying couldn't fly a freakin' Cessna! You and your handlers need to come up with better stories. Of course you and people like you can get over on people who never pay any attention and who believe just about anything that has an official stamp on it but thinking people's bs meters go off when they hear tales like that.

Classic conspiracy theory mentality: anyone who doesn't believe in the conspiracy is a non-thinker. You people are as arrogant as the neocons.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   12:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie

911Truth.org ::::: The 9/11 Truth Movement

... www.911truth.org, so long as the full source URL (">http://www.911truth. org/article.php?story=20050523112738404 in this case) is posted with the article. ... www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050523112738404 - 47k - Jan 23, 2007 - Cached -

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77

By Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D

Physics911, by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven, 9/11/2001

Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77. By Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D. I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, ... www.physics911.net/olmsted - 22k - Cached -

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

THE FEMA REPORT ON WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 COLLAPSE IS A TOTAL JOKE ...

medium, text, image, audio, video, other. translate. deutsch, de » en, español, es » en, français, fr » en, italiano, it » en, norsk, portug, pt » en ... www.whatreallyhappened.com/fema_report.html - 105k - Cached -

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   12:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

1. I never said they "hated us for our freedom."

2. Classic conspiracy theory mentality: anyone who doesn't believe in the conspiracy is a non-thinker. You people are as arrogant as the neocons.

1. So you don't believe in the fuehrer's pronouncement? And anyone who hates Americans for their alleged freedom have been woefully mislead. People today aren't nearly as free as their grandparents or great-grandparents were.

2. And anyone who believes in the Official Party Line™ about the events of 9/11 may not be arrogant but they sure are ignorant. And that is not a slam. Ignorance can be cured through education if people want to overcome it but willful stupidity is forever.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

With all due respect you don't actually believe that he is going to read any of the stuff you linked for him, do you? People like that don't want to be confused with any facts because their alleged minds are already made up.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   12:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not at all. Muslim extremists have been attacking US targets for many years now because of US foreign policy.

So the best way to commit murder is to mimic the current serial murderer. Not even original, Agatha Christie wrote about such a plot in the "ABC Murders", back in the '30s.

The "truth" movement has "proven" nothing. The entire "truth" movement is built on speculation based mostly on video clips.

Well that's a very limited way of looking at it. The 9/11 truth movement is also based on the testimony of New York's finest and bravest, as well as other eyewitness testimony.

The 9/11 Truth movement also gets its facts from the laws of physics.

Then there are the delicious "coincidences".

Like Lucky Larry Silverstein, who leased the WTC from the Port Authority in July of 2001:
In total, Silverstein was awarded nearly $5 billion in insurance money following the destruction of the Twin Towers [14]. He plans to use some or all of the settlement to rebuild. [15]

The FT fails to mention that Silverstein bought the $3.2 billion towers with a sliver of equity—$125 million, a whopping 4 percent down—most of it from silent partner Lloyd Goldman, whose behind-the-scenes role has never been adequately explained. Silverstein then borrowed equity—if that’s possible—from bondholders, layering on debt like a teetering Dagwood sandwich.

Then, he underinsured the property by more than half in a slapdash process that left the paperwork undone by the time the towers fell, creating the need for his dog-and-pony suit against Swiss Re and other insurers that author Steven Brill predicted, correctly, as early as April 2003, that Silverstein would lose (which he did, but only after years and hundreds of millions of dollars—enough to build something—was wasted on the legal fight).

This suit created the illusion that Silverstein could obtain $7 billion and would therefore be able to fulfill the rebuilding requirements of his lease. Without this doomed attempt to force insurers to fund the redevelopment project, Silverstein’s financial shortfall would have been obvious for the world to see. But the Port Authority, the site’s owner, supported the legal action.

Of course there is PNAC's interest in a "new Pearl Harbor event".

And if you follow the money, there were some very odd stock transactions that day.

And the president's brother was the CEO of the company in charge of the security of WTC.

There are many more coincidences, that have nothing to do with videos, if you are so disinclined to watch video clips.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   12:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

With all due respect you don't actually believe that he is going to read any of the stuff you linked for him, do you?

Mister Clean does not want to know the truth.

You never know who might see this thread. People from all over the world have access to freedom4um.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   13:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

killtown.911review.org/oddities/2001.html

www.serendipity.li/wot/pilger_on_standdown.htm
General Ralph Eberhart, commander of the North American Aerospace Defence Command (NORAD). "Air force jet fighters could have intercepted hijacked airliners roaring towards the World Trade Center and Pentagon," he said, "if only air traffic controllers had asked for help 13 minutes sooner ... We would have been able to shoot down all three ... all four of them."

Why did this not happen?

The Kean report makes clear that "the defence of US aerospace on 9/11 was not conducted in accord with pre-existing training and protocols ... If a hijack was confirmed, procedures called for the hijack coordinator on duty to contact the Pentagon's National Military Command Center (NMCC) ... The NMCC would then seek approval from the office of the Secretary of Defence to provide military assistance ... "

Uniquely, this did not happen.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   13:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

• September 16, 2001 - President Bush says Osama Bin Laden is the "prime suspect."

"Q Mr. President, do you believe Osama bin Laden's denial that he had anything to do with this?

THE PRESIDENT: No question he is the prime suspect. No question about that." - White House (09/16/01)

************************************************

President Bush says Osama Bin Laden is the "prime suspect."

"Q Mr. President, do you believe Osama bin Laden's denial that he had anything to do with this?

THE PRESIDENT: No question he is the prime suspect. No question about that." - White House (09/16/01)

Remember, on June 5, 2006, FBI spokesman, Chief of Investigative Publicity Rex Tomb said, “The FBI has no hard evidence connecting Usama Bin Laden to 9/11.” This should be headline news worldwide. The challenge to the reader is to find out why it is not. Why has the U.S. media blindly read the government-provided 9/11 scripts, rather than investigate without passion, prejudice, or bias, the events of September 11, 2001? Why has the U.S. media blacklisted any guest that might speak of a government sponsored 9/11 cover-up, rather than seeking out those people who have something to say about 9/11 that is contrary to the government’s account? And on those few rare occasions when a 9/11 dissenter has made it upon the airways, why has the mainstream media ridiculed the guest as a conspiracy nut, rather than listen to the evidence that clearly raises valid questions about the government’s 9/11 account? Why is the Big Media Conglomeration blindly content with the government’s 9/11 story when so much verifiable information to the contrary is available with a few clicks of a computer mouse?

Who is it that is controlling the media message, and how is it that the U.S. media has indicted Usama Bin Laden for the events of September 11, 2001, but the U.S. government has not? How is it that the FBI has no “hard evidence” connecting Usama Bin Laden to the events of September 11, 2001, while the U.S. media has played the Bin Laden - 9/11 connection story for five years now as if it has conclusive evidence that Bin Laden is responsible for the collapse of the twin towers, the Pentagon attack, and the demise of United Flight 93?

…No hard evidence connecting Usama Bin Laden to 9/11… Think about it.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   13:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You never know who might see this thread. People from all over the world have access to freedom4um.

Good point.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   13:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

1. So you don't believe in the fuehrer's pronouncement?

Isn't it obvious?

2. And anyone who believes in the Official Party Line™ about the events of 9/11 may not be arrogant but they sure are ignorant. And that is not a slam. Ignorance can be cured through education if people want to overcome it but willful stupidity is forever.

The conspiracy theorists are the arrogant ones who declare anyone who doesn't believe in their 9/11 "truth" to be stupid as you did above.

Get over yourself.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   13:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

With all due respect you don't actually believe that he is going to read any of the stuff you linked for him, do you?

I ignore most of TwentyTwelve's crap.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   13:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I ignore most of TwentyTwelve's crap.

We know.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   13:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Kean report makes clear that "the defence of US aerospace on 9/11 was not conducted in accord with pre-existing training and protocols ... If a hijack was confirmed, procedures called for the hijack coordinator on duty to contact the Pentagon's National Military Command Center (NMCC) ... The NMCC would then seek approval from the office of the Secretary of Defence to provide military assistance ... "

That doesn't prove 9/11 was an inside job.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   13:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   13:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cached - Similar pages

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   13:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-02   13:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"I ignore most of TwentyTwelve's crap."

Conversely, we ignore your brain farts, buddy. Thanks for sharing.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-12-02   13:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not by itself.

But taken together with all the other "coincidences" it is very damning evidence. Why did our jets stood down that day? Why was there such a command?

whatreallyhappened.com/911stand.html

The US military has spent billions of dollars developing stealth aircraft which are invisible to radar so they can mount surprise attacks on adversaries, but it seems they should have saved their money and bought a fleet of airliners because they appear to be far more effective.

On 9/11 the world's only military superpower was apparently oblivious to the location of rogue airliners in it's airspace for over an hour, and military commanders were left perplexed on how to deal with the situation of hijackers using these planes as flying bombs.

Click for full sized image This confusion resulted in fighter jets flying around aimlessly whilst the hierarchy fully assessed what was going on, and this total lack of cohesion ultimately led to the loss of nearly 3000 lives.

All that was required to overcome America's military might on 9/11 were 19 hijackers on 4 airliners.

Does this sound plausible to you?

It's what you're expected to believe.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   13:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I ignore most of TwentyTwelve's crap.

Yeah, you need to be really careful or you might learn something. And an actual thought would probably bust your head.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   13:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But taken together with all the other "coincidences" it is very damning evidence. Why did our jets stood down that day? Why was there such a command?

This is where the speculation comes in.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-02   13:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The conspiracy theorists are the arrogant ones who declare anyone who doesn't believe in their 9/11 "truth" to be stupid as you did above.

That isn't what I said. I said that some people--and it is probably a large number--are ignorant because they have not taken the time to educate themselves. They go from ignorant to stupid when they make claims (like you do) that the Official Party Line™ is the truth without doing any checking and finding out why it is impossible.

James Deffenbach  posted on  2007-12-02   13:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The USAF response against Flight 11

None

The USAF response against Flight 175 8:45 a.m. - United Airlines Flight 175 is taken over by five hijackers who use knives, Mace and the threat of a bomb. Both pilots are killed and the plane is diverted southward to New York City.

8:53 a.m. - Unaware that their intended target has already crashed into the World Trade Center, the F-15s from Otis Air Force Base are sent to military-controlled airspace off Long Island and ordered to remain in a holding pattern until between 9:09 and 9:13 a.m. [National Geographic]

Flight 11 had crashed into World Trade Center 1, and Flight 175 was hijacked and heading toward New York.

Fighter jets were ordered to stay in a holding pattern off Long Island.

Why weren't they ordered to protect New York?

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robin  posted on  2007-12-02   13:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

9/11 Mysteries (Full Length, High Qualaity) - Google Video

This is a brand new public domain 9/11 Truth documentary about the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center complex. It's excellent...., 1 hr 30 min ... video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003 - 97k - Jan 29, 2007 - Cached -

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