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Title: The 9/11 Commission Doesn't Believe It: Why Do You?
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URL Source: http://georgewashington.blogspot.co ... ont-believe-it-why-do-you.html
Published: Dec 10, 2007
Author: GW
Post Date: 2007-12-10 16:04:52 by Kamala
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Keywords: 911
Views: 131
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Saturday, December 09, 2006

The 9/11 Commission Doesn't Believe It: Why Do You?

The 9/11 Commission co-chairs don't believe the 9/11 Commission Report:

The 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people (free subscription required). www.washingtonpost.com/wp...006080101300.html?sub=new

The co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations. www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...141D43.DTL&type=printable

Chairman Thomas Kean says “I’m upset that [the government] didn’t tell us the truth.”www.nytimes.com/2007/12/0...h&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Co-chair Hamilton says of the CIA's cover up and destruction of tapes of interrogation of people allegedly connected with 9/11: "Did they obstruct our inquiry? The answer is clearly yes," says Lee Hamilton, who co-chaired the 9/11 Commission, in the wake of reports the CIA destroyed videotapes of interrogations of two al-Qaida suspects. "Whether that amounts to a crime, others will have to judge," adds Hamilton.www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=20521

Hamilton also says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history.www.911podcasts.com/files/video/CBCSunday_20060910.wmv

Many of the other 9/11 Commissioners don't buy it:

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . . www.salon.com/news/cookie...onspiracies/index_np.html

9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS...panel.pentagon/index.html

Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised";dir.salon.com/story/news/...1/cleland/index.html?pn=1 and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up".www.democracynow.org/2004...te_house_has_played_cover

And many other key players in generating the Report don't believe it:

One of the primary architects of the 9/11 Commission Report, Ernest May, said in May 2005, "We never had full confidence in the interrogation reports as historical sources."hnn.us/articles/11972.html

And the high-level attorney who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."www.washingtonpost.com/wp...8/01/AR2006080101300.html

They don't believe it. Why do you?

Postscript: David Ray Griffin sent me the following email after reading this post, clarifying the various stories about the conflicting timelines of the military's response to the hijacked flights (the first and last points cited above):

What the 9/11 Commission calls lies by the military are places where officers have contradicted the Commission’s own new story about why the flights were not intercepted, as I explained in the latter half of “Omissions and Distortions” and more briefly in “Flights of Fancy” (in Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11) and then again in the first chapter of Debunking 9/11 Debunking. As I show, the idea that the military would have deliberately told the kinds of lies alleged by the Commission makes absolutely no sense. Why? Because the story that the military told in “NORAD’s Response Times” (Sept. 18, 2001), and continued to tell to the 9/11 Commission, got the military only partly off the hook, because it left them vulnerable to the charge that they had either stood-down their standard procedures or had been incredibly incompetent. According to the new story told by the 9/11 Commission, the FAA didn’t even notify the military about Flights 175, 77, and 93 until after they had crashed. This gets the military completely off the hook, at least for those 3 flights. If that had been the truth, it would have been completely irrational for the military to have lied by saying that the FAA had given them notice in time for them to have intercepted the flights. But the 9/11 Commission could handle the contradictions between its new story and the military’s old story only by claiming that the military had made false statements. (And since it was hard to see how the military officers could have been confused, the inference was made that they had lied.)

This is not to say that the story the military had told was true. It is possible that the old story and the new story are both false. Indeed, I believe that to be the case. E.g., the military’s claim that it was not notified until 9:24 about Flight 77 contradicts the FAA memo, sent to to the Commission by Laura Brown on May 22, 2003, stating that the FAA had been in conversation with the military about Flight 77 long before 9:24. So the Commission knew that the military’s story was a lie. It responded by increasing the lie by suppressing the memo and saying that the FAA NEVER notified the military.)

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#1. To: Kamala (#0)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-10   16:25:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Kamala, artisan (#0)

good post, a saver.

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Artisan  posted on  2007-12-22   15:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Mister Clean (#0)

ping

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robin  posted on  2007-12-22   16:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#3)

ping

The title of this article is a complete lie.

Nobody from the 9/11 Commission has said they don't believe their own report.

This is typical, "truthers" lie, distort and exaggerate EVERYTHING in a pathetic attempt to twist things to fit their conspiracy theory.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   16:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mister Clean (#4)

The title of this article is a complete lie.

It is a fair interpretation based on the quotes of several members of the 9/11 Commission listed here. More fair and honest than anything in the 9/11 Commission's report.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-22   16:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#5)

It is a fair interpretation based on the quotes of several members of the 9/11 Commission listed here. More fair and honest than anything in the 9/11 Commission's report.

None of the people quoted said they didn't believe the report and that makes the title a complete lie.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   16:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mister Clean (#6)

"We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."

...

"Did they obstruct our inquiry? The answer is clearly yes," says Lee Hamilton, who co-chaired the 9/11 Commission, in the wake of reports the CIA destroyed videotapes of interrogations of two al-Qaida suspects.

...

First of all, as someone who co-sponsored legislation creating the 9/11 commission, against great opposition from the White House, this independent commission should be independent and should not be making deals with anybody. I start from there. It's been painfully obvious the administration not only fought the creation of the commission but that their objective was the war in Iraq, and one of the notions that was built on was there was a direct connection between al Qaida and 9/11 and Saddam Hussein. There was not.

...

9/11 commission chairman Tom Kean has suggested if you issue subpoenas on the White House and they fight it, it's going to go to the courts and take months and months of legal wrangling.

Well, that's up to the president, he's made this decision. I say that decision compromised the mission of the 9/11 commission, pure and simple. Far from the commissioners being able to fulfill their obligation to the Congress and the American people, and far from getting access to all the documents we need, the president of the United States is cherry-picking what information is shown to what minority of commissioners. Now this is ridiculous. That's not full and open access.

...

MAX CLELAND: The commission had to subpoena the F.A.A. for documents, had to subpoena NORAD for documents and they will never get the full story. That is one of the tragedies. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.

...

Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission, hoping to hide the bungled response to the hijackings, these sources said.

...

"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not true."

Arnold, who could not be reached for comment yesterday, told the commission in 2004 that he did not have all the information unearthed by the panel when he testified earlier. The 9/11 Commission was "set up to fail." So says its chairman, former Republican Governor of New Jersey Thomas Kean.

These statements by members of the 9/11 Commission are found in the links above. They admit their own report has falsehoods, was politically motivated, and is missing important information.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-22   17:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#7)

These statements by members of the 9/11 Commission are found in the links above. They admit their own report has falsehoods, was politically motivated, and is missing important information.

None of those statements support the deceptive title of the article which states the commission doesn't believe their own report.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-12-22   17:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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