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Title: Hypocrite Kucinich Drafts Legislation To Ban Guns
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URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/200407banguns.htm
Published: Dec 12, 2007
Author: Paul Joseph Watson
Post Date: 2007-12-12 11:09:33 by christine
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Entertains notion that bloodthirsty Neo-Fascists carried out 9/11, then says we should hand over our only protection against them Dennis Kucinich has shot himself in the foot, pardon the pun, by alienating a huge majority of his most vocal and active online supporters, the 9/11 Truth Movement, in drafting legislation that will completely ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians. Kucinich has effectively ended any minute chance he had of becoming President in 2008. The Congressman from Cleveland has received plaudits for being the only man on Capitol Hill, besides Ron Paul, to even consider pushing for a new inquiry into the events of 9/11. Though Kucinich warned that the investigation "would be limited," he has promised to organize a committee before the end of the year to focus on "Some specific areas that to me represent the most egregious examples of distortion of truth or lack of information." "By focusing in on that, I'll be able to bring forward a new dimension to the discussions. And from there, we'll move ahead," said Kucinich. According to Raw Story, the Congressman has also selected a date to introduce articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney. Wonderful, empowering, a breath of fresh air - but you know it just sounded too good to be true, because now comes this; "Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that would ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians." That's right - our intrepid warrior in the fight to restore the Constitution, wants to gut the very bedrock of it - the Second Amendment. Just as the Bush administration exploited the immediate aftermath of 9/11 to ram through the Patriot Act, Kucinich cites the Virginia Massacre as evidence of a "national emergency" that requires an instant assault on the bill of rights to "protect" us all from the madmen. Kucinich is seemingly willing to entertain the notion that 9/11 was carried out by a ruthless gang of bloodthirsty Neo-Fascists within our own government, yet he thinks we should all hand in our only means of defense against such thugs when the men in black ski-masks come knocking. Notice Kucinich specifies that only "civilians" will be forced to turn in their weapons - the guardians of the state will still be allowed to arm themselves to the teeth to keep us all safe. Gun control is a religion, and no matter how many facts you throw out about how guns prevent hundreds of thousands of crimes every year, or arguments about how criminals don't obey laws and gun control only disarms the victims, the majority will never change minds that are already made up.
Poster Comment: Notice Kucinich specifies that only "civilians" will be forced to turn in their weapons - the guardians of the state will still be allowed to arm themselves to the teeth to keep us all safe. Kucinich has been outed...he's a Traitor to the American people!!
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#1. To: christine (#0)
"Truthers" like other doom & gloomer conspiracy theorists, will never, EVER be satisfied with anything other than whining, complaining, bitching and moaning.
You are the one whining, complaining, bitching and moaning.
You probably don't realize it but you actually enjoy having some "crisis" to "warn" the "sheeple" about. You derive pleasure from fearmongering. You get a kick out of preaching doom & gloom.
Typical Alex Jones style exaggeration. Kucinich has never stated anything that could be interpreted as believing in 9/11 "truth." Where is the hypocrisy here? Alex Jones and his minions will twist anything and everything to use as marketing tools for their stupid websites.
Truthers, unlike the shills of your ilk, don't whine about the whiners, or moan about the moaners, but occasionally we will bitch about a bitch like you.
If a large group of people formed a corporation purposed to produce and market automobiles (like GM), could they then hire gunmen as salespersons to increase their sales? Well that's exactly what governments do.
Guess I struck a nerve.
Hey kucinich... What North American Union? Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW! Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Struck a nerve? No, you just continue to out yourself which causes ALARMS to go off for good reason...Mister Quisling
What North American Union? Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW! Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Ever get the impression that you are a majority of one on 4um? No one else seems to agree with you. With that in mind we have to speculate that the small minority of the people here for some reason are not as intelligent as you or a cognizant as you of the world around us. The Titanic is sinking and you are the band leader.
I, for one, will be disappointed if RP doesn't address this. This is proof that Kucinich is no advocate of restoring the Constitution and RP should voice his disassociation with this treasonous act.
You should be alarmed. The "truth" movement has peaked.
Yawn.
I just looked at Congressional Quarterly's list of bills that Kucinich has sponsored in the last 12 months, and I could not find any such bill.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Like, REAL soon...
What North American Union? Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW! Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
you have to be a member to get into the site you linked? is there anywhere else to research the validity of the bill?
I know your NeoCon "Dear Leader" tag team duo knew 911 was coming and facilitated it by allowing it to happen. The evidence is mounting and has been for some time. The remote controlled planes/missiles/etc I have not taken the time to obsess over because I already know what we're dealing with from this CFR-controlled illegal shadow government of quislings. I bet you know it too, but you justify it because now 'we' are not only nation building in the Middle East - we're building another Super State - the Middle Eastern Union (if Israel abandons the 'plan' it will instead in all reality be the Islamic Union) as the result...just as people LIKE YOU know in your dark hearts that the massacre at Pearl Harbor could have been prevented...but it played into the hands of molding Public Opinion to enter that war...and get into bed with the Communists, putting the United Nations in our midst.
What North American Union? Don't wait - send Ron Paul 2008 some FRNs right NOW! Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
Maybe you can find the bill on thomas.loc.gov. I believe they also list members' bills.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
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If you had read the article you'd know that he's only "DRAFTING" that bill, it's not hit congress yet. The story lacks credability since no one has seen the alleged bill. IMO Ron Paul should wait until the bill surfaces before condemning it.
His own words: Gun Laws, Gun Rights & Violence There are few topics that divide America more than the issues associated with firearms. For the vast majority of Americans who own firearms, they are a form of recreation in the character of hunting and/or target shooting. For many, they are a method for safety and protection in a society characterized by violence. But all too frequently, they are used for violence. I have friends who both hunt and shoot. These are good people, they are not criminals, and they lock up their guns when not using them. I support their right to their hobbies, and I support the right to bear arms. I have also talked with widows and children left fatherless due to the improper use of firearms, and I am committed to preventing such tragedies from happening. By helping to develop a society which does not look to violence as a method of solving problems, my proposed Department of Peace will play a key role in this. Conflict resolution and alternatives to violence will constitute major areas of responsibility within this new Department, so that we can begin to lead by examples as well as by words. My efforts to lead the fight against assault weapons have been highly recognized by The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. One year after the DC-area sniper attacks, I co-signed a bill, H.R. 2038, to renew and strengthen the federal assault weapons ban. I also attended a recent Save Our Sons and Daughters (SOSAD) event. While some of my opponents in the Democratic primary believe that gun laws should reside at the state level, I respectfully disagree. In this mobile society, national control of guns just is necessary, just as it is with pollution. It is the right of Americans to keep and bear arms; however it is not the right of American felons to arm themselves. In a time when homeland security is of utmost concern, it is perplexing why anyone would not wish to keep guns out of the hands of those who might do us harm. This is why I would support legislation to require background checks, identical to the background checks currently required for transfers by licensed gun dealers, for firearm transfers by unlicensed gun dealers at gun shows. Sensible laws to prevent guns from winding up in the wrong hands do not infringe on any constitutional rights. I agree with the Brady Campaign that Congress should end the gun industry's immunity from product safety regulation and that irresponsible dealers who allow weapons to fall into the hands of criminals should be held accountable. President Bush campaigned on the promise to reauthorize the law banning assault weapons. However, in a calculated move to avoid signing the bill, the President has not spoken out publicly or forcefully to make the House Republicans under Rep. Tom DeLay bring the legislation out of committee and pass it. It is a shame that our current President is willing to expend limitless political capital to financially benefit his own campaign contributors with trillion- dollar tax cuts, but will spend nothing to keep assault weapons out of the hands of potential terrorists.
Well, discrediting Kucinich might be an effective way of discrediting the mounting efforts to impeach Cheney and Bush, might it not?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
INTENT
This article says "drafting". It has not been formally introduced. Therefore and for now, someone just needs to directly question Kucinich on any such intentions. Or wait for a formal submission to the floor upon which it shall be in the Congressional Record and should appear on a house.gov bill search. My gut reaction is that this is not true.
Register to vote for Ron Paul NOW.
I read through that pretty quickly, but I didn't see anything like talk of a complete ban on handguns.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You're very kind...I just call things as I see them.
My support for Ron Paul 2008 is as of this moment officially on hold until RP clarifies the "Kucinich" issue... That statement is incongruent with proposed legislation to ban all Americans from hand gun ownership.
Register to vote for Ron Paul NOW.
You'll have the rest of your life to obsess over such foolishness so take your time.
What a freaking turd kucinich is...he can't be that naive...I guess he could be that stoooopid though.
My support for Ron Paul 2008 is as of this moment officially on hold until RP clarifies the "Kucinich" issue... You can go f*_ck yourself too, NeoCon bozo...
My support for Ron Paul 2008 is as of this moment officially on hold until RP clarifies the "Kucinich" issue... That is so hilarious.
Kind of early in the day to be drunk, isn't it?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Hey! Your bozo filter works GREAT! My support for Ron Paul 2008 is as of this moment officially on hold until RP clarifies the "Kucinich" issue... From a vacuous mind for all to see.
ari, that's splitting hairs. Kucinich is quite clear that he's anti 2nd amendment.
I'm reminded of what Walter Williams said. He said, "I want whatever the govermnent has to use against me." There ya go.
I'll be over here caressing my AK...
My support for Ron Paul 2008 is as of this moment officially on hold until RP clarifies the "Kucinich" issue... i got one too.
kucinich won't be getting mine...I just calmed her down and it wasn't easy.
My support for Ron Paul 2008 is as of this moment officially on hold until RP clarifies the "Kucinich" issue... Hold on now....IIRC his desire to create a Department of Peace would require its surrender, if for no other reason than the safety of us and the children. And I do believe his urge to have a national register of assault weapons (handguns included) is a swell idea. In China.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestDennis Kucinich has shot himself in the foot, pardon the pun, by alienating a huge majority of his most vocal and active online supporters, the 9/11 Truth Movement, in drafting legislation that will completely ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians.
#2. To: Mister Clean (#1)
"Truthers" like other doom & gloomer conspiracy theorists, will never, EVER be satisfied with anything other than whining, complaining, bitching and moaning.
#3. To: TwentyTwelve (#2)
You are the one whining, complaining, bitching and moaning.
#4. To: christine (#0)
Kucinich is seemingly willing to entertain the notion that 9/11 was carried out by a ruthless gang of bloodthirsty Neo-Fascists within our own government, yet he thinks we should all hand in our only means of defense against such thugs when the men in black ski-masks come knocking.
#5. To: Mister Clean (#1)
(Edited)
Truthers" like other doom & gloomer conspiracy theorists, will never, EVER be satisfied with anything other than whining, complaining, bitching and moaning.
#6. To: noone222 (#5)
Truthers, unlike the shills of your ilk, don't whine about the whiners, or moan about the moaners, but occasionally we will bitch about a bitch like you.
#7. To: christine (#0)
Any comment on this yet from Ron Paul? 
#8. To: Mister Clean (#6)
#9. To: Mister Clean (#1)
"Truthers" like other doom & gloomer conspiracy theorists, will never, EVER be satisfied with anything other than whining, complaining, bitching and moaning. "Truthers" like other doom & gloomer conspiracy theorists, will never, EVER be satisfied with anything other than whining, complaining, bitching and moaning.
#10. To: FOH (#7)
Any comment on this yet from Ron Paul?
#11. To: FOH (#8)
Struck a nerve? No, you just continue to out yourself which causes ALARMS to go off for good reason...Mister Quisling
#12. To: Cynicom (#9)
The Titanic is sinking and you are the band leader.
#13. To: christine (#0)
#14. To: christine (#10)
I, for one, will be disappointed if RP doesn't address this. This is proof that Kucinich is no advocate of restoring the Constitution and RP should voice his disassociation with this treasonous act.
#15. To: aristeides (#13)
#16. To: Mister Clean (#11)
#17. To: christine (#15)
#18. To: FOH (#16)
#19. To: aristeides (#13)
(Edited)
"Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that would ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians."
Ron Paul or Assimilation? - You Decide 2008
#20. To: aristeides (#17)
#21. To: hondo68 (#19)
#22. To: All (#20)
#23. To: christine (#15)
is there anywhere else to research the validity of the bill?
#24. To: christine (#20)
#25. To: christine (#18)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#26. To: christine (#20)
It is the right of Americans to keep and bear arms; however it is not the right of American felons to arm themselves.
#27. To: FOH (#16)
The remote controlled planes/missiles/etc I have not taken the time to obsess over because I already know what we're dealing with from this CFR-controlled illegal shadow government of quislings.
#28. To: christine (#20)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#29. To: Mister Clean (#27)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#30. To: FOH (#29)
My support for Ron Paul 2008 is as of this moment officially on hold until RP clarifies the "Kucinich" issue...
#31. To: FOH (#29)
#32. To: christine (#20)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#33. To: Mister Clean (#12)
Yawn.
#34. To: aristeides (#24)
but I didn't see anything like talk of a complete ban on handguns.
#35. To: aristeides (#24)
Allow me to help. Below is part of the definition - 'assault weapon' - do you see where it includes handguns?
#36. To: Jethro Tull, aristeides, FOH, all (#35)
#37. To: christine (#36)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#38. To: FOH (#37)
#39. To: christine (#38)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#40. To: FOH (#39)
kucinich won't be getting mine
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