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Title: Physics laws flawed (Dr Michael Murphy is part of a team that has, over recent years, uncovered surprising and controversial evidence suggesting the laws of physics may have been changing through cosmic time. )
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URL Source: http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20071012-16699-2.html
Published: Dec 13, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-12-13 11:26:08 by gengis gandhi
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Comments: 89

Physics laws flawed E-mail to a Friend Monday, 10 December 2007 Swinburne University

A Swinburne astrophysicist has leapt another hurdle in the path to proving that our fundamental theories of physics are not what they seem.

Dr Michael Murphy is part of a team that has, over recent years, uncovered surprising and controversial evidence suggesting the laws of physics may have been changing through cosmic time. In this latest move, Murphy has debunked a study which claimed to disprove his findings.

Murphy’s research into the laws of Nature goes back eight years, and concerns our understanding of electromagnetism, the force of nature that determines the sounds we hear, the light we see, and how atoms are held together to form solids. Through the study of electromagnetism in galaxies ten billion light years away, he has challenged the fundamental assumption that the strength of electromagnetism has been constant through time.

“Back in 2001 we published evidence showing a small change in the fine structure constant, the number that physicists use to characterise the strength of electromagnetism,” Murphy said.

“Even though the change that we think we see in the data is quite small, about five parts in a million, it would be enough to demonstrate that our current understanding must in fact be wrong. It’s an important discovery if correct. It suggests to physicists that there’s an underlying set of theories we’re yet to broach and understand.”

Physicists have been chasing results like these for a number of years, but since 1999, Murphy and his co-researchers have been ahead of the pack. They’ve published a series of observations from the Keck Telescope in Hawaii as further evidence of a varying fine structure constant. But, a few years ago, another research team claimed that data from a different telescope contradicted Murphy’s observations.

However, he’s been able to prove that the contradictory work itself was flawed. “We’ve shown that the way the data was analysed was faulty,” he said. “Their procedures were faulty so the numbers that came out are meaningless. Our paper points this out. When you replicate their analysis and fix their problems, you get a very very different answer indeed.”

Murphy has a ‘comment’ about this latest work in this week's issue of the journal Physical Review Letters. It’s the most difficult journal for physicists to get published in, and is the one they turn to for important results in their field.

This latest step is not the end of the road though in convincing scientists across the world that they need to rethink their ideas about electromagnetism. Even though this study also produced results that agree with his initial Keck findings, Murphy said there’s still work to be done.

“There are some problems that need addressing,” he said. “It’s quite a surprising result and one that probably many people need a lot more convincing on. It will take some time, but we’re doing that job.”

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#4. To: gengis gandhi (#0)

Either electromagnetism is stronger in the past (and farther away) or the recession-dominated red-shift assumption is wrong, if I understand this correctly. So, it's a pretty dull dilemma to me.

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ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-12-13   17:54:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: ghostdogtxn (#6) (Edited)

If you use nonlinear gravity, such as the inverse-square law multiplied by a sinusoidal factor, or some such thing, I suppose the spatial energy distribution of the universe can evolve into increased complexity or, preferably, cycle within a similar periodically self-organizing path. A crudely similar process can be produced with cellular automata rules. I guess the spatial sinusoidal frequency or frequencies of quantum gravity would be most simply governed by a light-like gravity quanta mode of infinitesimal mass, and thus ultra-long wavelength, combined directly with the inverse-square rule, which of course naturally arises from the space-filling fall-off of quanta flux density with distance from the source.

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#25. To: ghostdogtxn (#24)

I suppose red-shifting has something to do with interaction between electromagnetic quanta and gravity quanta which only shows up on an ultra-long scale corresponding to wavelengths of an ultra-low-mass gravitational quantum.

What I'd like to be able to do is show a transformation path between electromagnetic quanta and gravity quanta. It would seem to require nothing more than multiple amounts of both types of quanta configured in some way.

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#52. To: ghostdogtxn (#26) (Edited)

There is also man-made anti-gravity, apparently. A gravitomagnetic field is supposedly induced with a superconducting ring:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060325232140.htm

It's a completely different effect from the alleged effect of quantum gravity undergoing a phase reversal after traveling galactic distances. My impression is that if one was moving from the center of Hoag's galaxy, the positive-phased (attracting) quantum gravity of the center would combine with a weaker negative- phased (repelling) quantum gravity from the ring such that both would work together against outward progress. Past the cross-over point, the effect is reversed, meaning the center then repels and the ring attracts. The phase crossover point is devoid of matter due to a sweepout effect that forces matter to the ring or to the center. One could imagine such a cross-over may also have a divergent effect on light passing though perpendicularly, along the line of sight in the photo.

Many people say anti-matter has anti-gravity, and one possibility I haven't mentioned is that one of the center or ring of Hoag's galaxy could be antimatter, but I doubt that is really the case. Hoag's galaxy wouldn't gravity- lens the way it seems to be doing if one part of it is anti-matter and if anti- matter has anti-gravity. I don't think anti-matter has anti-gravity, anyway, meaning I think it would gravity-lens the smaller galaxy behind it in the same way regardless.

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