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Title: CIA Does Not Have Transcripts of the Interrogations from the Destroyed Tapes
Source: jonathanturley.org
URL Source: http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/1 ... -the-destroyed-tapes/#more-826
Published: Dec 13, 2007
Author: Jonathan Turley
Post Date: 2007-12-13 16:02:09 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 117
Comments: 5

CIA Does Not Have Transcripts of the Interrogations from the Destroyed Tapes

Published 1, December 13, 2007

Administration officials are reporting that the CIA not only destroyed the tapes of the two suspects at the center of torture scandal, but they also did not allow transcripts to be made. This a very irregular practice given the importance of the suspects and further evidence to support a conspiracy to avoid or destroy evidence of torture.

The Administration has always stressed that it only ordered waterboarding for the most important suspects. Yet, after taking these extraordinary measures, they now claim that all tapes were destroyed and no transcripts made. This is particularly curious when they claim the interrogations were full of useful information.

In the meantime, Democrats appear to be struggling to avoid discussion in the criminal act before the obstruction and particularly the criminal actor. The original crime was torture and the man who ordered it was the President. Yet, Democrats are once again framing the controversy to avoid addressing torture, which is not only a war crime but most obviously an impeachable offense. They seem to be getting a great deal of support from the mainstream media, which continues to focus on the obstruction and avoids reference to torture — despite the fact that waterboarding is clearly defined as torture by U.S. and international courts.

The Democrats seem to want to investigate a cover-up while avoiding the crime being concealed — or at least ignoring its commission. This is akin to investigating the conspiracy to destroy evidence of murder but never discuss the homicide. After saving Mukasey from a showdown on torture, however, this may be more difficult for the Democrats despite disclosures recently that leading Democrats knew of the waterboarding.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Why would the government not want transcripts? Well, if it was getting its answer from the detainees by torturing them and asking them leading questions several times until it got the right answer, it would not want a transcript, because it would show what it was doing, and how much the coerced answers were worth as evidence.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-12-13   16:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-12-13   16:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)

When I worked in military signals intelligence, we transcribed everything. I suspect the CIA and FBI work the same way.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-12-13   16:07:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#3)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-12-13   16:09:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: aristeides (#0)

CIA Does Not Have Transcripts .........

There was a time when I vererated the FBI and the CIA; now, sorrowfully, I'm amazed when anyone has the gumption to write to them, to try to communicate with them. to expect an answer from them, to request anything from them. They are The Government and at times arrogantly refuse even those requests coming from the government itself. Fantastic...and sad to feel so alienated.

Don't let it be forgot That once there was a spot For one brief shining moment That was known as Camelot.

Bub  posted on  2007-12-13   16:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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