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Title: White House: Contempt citations futile
Source: United Press International
URL Source: http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_Ne ... ontempt_citations_futile/4345/
Published: Dec 13, 2007
Author: United Press International
Post Date: 2007-12-13 19:10:37 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 143
Comments: 11

White House: Contempt citations futile

Published: Dec. 13, 2007 at 6:06 PM

WASHINGTON, Dec. 13 (UPI) -- U.S. Senate Democrats should know issuing contempt citations and pursuing a criminal case in the firings of U.S. attorneys is futile, the White House said.

Dana Perino, White House press secretary, said Thursday the Senate Judiciary Committee's issuing contempt citations against former White House adviser Karl Rove and White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten is pointless because "the constitutional prerogative of the president would make it a futile effort for Congress to refer contempt citations to U.S. attorneys."

The committee issued citations because Bolten did not provide information or documents in the firing of nine U.S. attorneys. Rove, who resigned as deputy chief of staff in August, was cited because he did not appear before the committee to testify. The White House said Rove was immune because of executive privilege.

"The Department of Justice would not require a U.S. attorney to convene a grand jury or otherwise pursue a prosecution of an individual who carries out a president's instruction not to provide documents or testimony on the basis of the president's assertion of executive privilege," Perino said.

The matter will go before the full Senate.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Don't they know the president is above the law?

As Louis XVI said in 1787 when he was opposed in the Parlement of Paris, "Si, c'est légal. C'est légal parce que je le veux. [Yes, it's legal. It's legal, because it's what I want.]"

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-12-13   19:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#0)

Congress has the power, but the contempt citations are just political grandstanding.

Congress could tell the president, "You have 30 days to press charges to the full extent of the law and if you don't, you will be impeached, removed from office, and charged with contempt of congress." And, then do it. If some Federal Judge attempted to get involved, congress could impeach him. That would send a VERY STRONG MESSAGE to any future president or Federal Judge.

DWornock  posted on  2007-12-13   20:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#0)

U.S. Senate Democrats should know issuing contempt citations and pursuing a criminal case in the firings of U.S. attorneys is futile, the White House said.

Well they are with this pack of lapdogs in congress.

The senate should call the master-at-arms to go arrest those two bastards and lock them in the holding cell in the basement of the capitol.

What they'll actually do is dither and diddle around endlessly.

Shut your whore mouth, Mr. President.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-12-13   23:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Indrid Cold (#3)

The senate should call the master-at-arms to go arrest those two bastards and lock them in the holding cell in the basement of the capitol.

I am for that one Indrid. Past due.

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tom007  posted on  2007-12-13   23:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: aristeides (#0)

Citations? So what? I see Alberto quit for nothing.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/12/12/gonzales_named_ lawyer_of_the_year/

Gonzales named lawyer of the year

angle  posted on  2007-12-13   23:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#4)

I am for that one Indrid. Past due.

I stole it from Ed Schultz this afternoon. Even the lefty talk-show hosts are pissed at this cowardly congress. He mentioned, among other things, that they could just let funding bills die without ever bringing them up for a vote.

Jenk Uygur from the Young Turks suggested that the Dems grow a pair and demand that the Repubs follow through with their filibuster threats every time--"Okay, you're gonna filibuster? Go ahead. We'll see you in the morning. Or maybe next week. Whenever you're tired of talking."

The Dems should've been learning all the Republican dirty tricks over the last 7 years, but instead of biding their time and storing their bile, they're still trying to "go along and get along". Fuck, did Pelosi learn her negotiating skills from Carter?

Shut your whore mouth, Mr. President.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-12-14   0:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#0)

Bill Clinton fired all of the U.S. attorneys with no consequences, why is Bush taking heat for firing nine U.S. attorneys??

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." James Madison

X-15  posted on  2007-12-14   0:35:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: X-15 (#7)

Bill Clinton fired all of the U.S. attorneys with no consequences, why is Bush taking heat for firing nine U.S. attorneys??

All presidents fire ALL US attorneys when they start their gig.

Bush only fired the ones who wouldn't follow his bullshit political agenda.

Shut your whore mouth, Mr. President.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-12-14   0:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Indrid Cold (#8)

Bush only fired the ones who wouldn't follow his bullshit political agenda.

So what? It's his RIGHT as POTUS to fire U.S. attorneys any time for any reason or for no reason. I just don't see what the fuss is all about.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite." James Madison

X-15  posted on  2007-12-14   0:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: aristeides (#0)

Dana Perino, White House press secretary, said Thursday the Senate Judiciary Committee's issuing contempt citations against former White House adviser Karl Rove and White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten is pointless because "the constitutional prerogative of the president would make it a futile effort for Congress to refer contempt citations to U.S. attorneys."

Yeah, cite the constitution only when it's convenient.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2007-12-14   3:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: aristeides (#0)

What bullshit. They'll all be wearing black Tuxedos this evening at some gala event. They'll toast each other, screw each others wives, boyfriends or pages, then tomorrow they'll dress up like congress again and pretend to disagree.

If a large group of people formed a corporation purposed to produce and market automobiles (like GM), could they then hire gunmen as salespersons to increase their sales? Well that's exactly what governments do.

noone222  posted on  2007-12-14   3:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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