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Title: What about Jim Webb as RP's Vice President?
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Published: Dec 14, 2007
Author: scrapper2
Post Date: 2007-12-14 14:58:21 by scrapper2
Keywords: VP suggestion for Ron Paul, Jim Webb, feedback wanted
Views: 2104
Comments: 61

I'm thinking more about posters' comments on another thread regarding suggestions for RP's running mate...and I know at this point we are getting ahead of ourselves, but what the heck, it's Christmas and it's okay to be frivalous...

Perhaps Judge Napolitano might be a better fit as Attorney General.

And Senator Jim Webb ( a former GOP'er who left the party because of the neocon take-over) might be a good candidate for RP's Vice President. Webb is very personable and articulate and he is old school conservative. ( I don't see him as a Dem frankly. That marriage is one of convenience for all parties concerned).

So what do you guys think of my VP candidate suggestion?

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#21. To: scrapper2 (#7)

I like Jim Webb for standing up against the Cheney regime, but I don't know his politics beyond that.

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robin  posted on  2007-12-14   22:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: scrapper2 (#7)

What do you guys think of Jim Webb as RP's VP candidate?

It's a very attractive idea. I think it's improbable Webb would leave the Democratic Party so soon after joining it, but who knows?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-12-15   9:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: scrapper2 (#0)

Webb would be a good partner if RP ran as in Indie. He is probably as much a Demo as RP is a GOP.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-12-15   9:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Sodie Pop (#19)

You married the same woman THREE times? I am wondering what the world record would be.

What's easier: marrying the same woman again or moving back to a house you used to own and you sold.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-12-15   9:29:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#24)

What's easier: marrying the same woman again or moving back to a house you used to own and you sold.

Or buying back a car you once owned and sold. I've done that before too.

What a life.

Sodie Pop  posted on  2007-12-15   11:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Sodie Pop (#19)

Been married FOUR times, three times to the same one,

LOL

I knew a guy years ago who had married the same gal three times.

Driving me nuts trying to remember his name.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   11:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#5)

Those who take R and D seriously are either Bushbots or Clintonbots.

Beg to disagree Rupert. I think they're creatures of habit and/or victims of years of family/association indoctrination.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   11:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: scrapper2 (#6)

A combination ticket of an outsider R with an outsider D might provide something that the cast aside and unhappy former R & D loyalist voters can identify with and be attracted to.

Also Jim Webb would be groomed to take over from the RP presidency so there would be an AmericaFirst heir apparent in place to go the distance after RP retires from public office.

Excellent points.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   11:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: iconoclast, scrapper2, Hayek Fan (#28)

I'm reminded of the rumor that Reagan was required to put Bush on the ticket by the Rockefeller wing of the GOP. What will they do if RP wins the nomination? How much influence can they exert on the VP choice? How will they exert that influence, if so?

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-15   11:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeye (#29)

I'm reminded of the rumor that Reagan was required to put Bush on the ticket by the Rockefeller wing of the GOP. What will they do if RP wins the nomination? How much influence can they exert on the VP choice? How will they exert that influence, if so?

I'd like to think that they would have no influence at all, but as the song says, "no one knows what goes on behind closed doors." If Dr. Paul was convinced that it would help further his goals without requiring him to sacrifice his moral and political values, I could see him going for it. However, I believe with all my heart that Ron Paul is an honest, virtuous man and would not bend to the threats and/or manipulations of any wing of the Republicratic Party.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-12-15   11:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: aristeides (#22)

It's a very attractive idea. I think it's improbable Webb would leave the Democratic Party so soon after joining it, but who knows?

I think his ties to the Dims is only GWB deep.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   12:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Hayek Fan (#30)

What does the law say about party VP selection?

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-15   12:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeye (#32)

What does the law say about party VP selection?

The 12th Amendment states "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Other than that, I don't know if there are any laws about VP selection.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-12-15   12:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Hayek Fan (#33)

Powerful words.

buckeye  posted on  2007-12-15   12:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: scrapper2 (#18)

WOW!

I'm absolutely astounded by the amount of anti-military bias being expressed here.

PS ... I don't count myself as military having had only ROTC and Reserve in my background.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   12:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: scrapper2 (#17)

All I'm suggesting is that you keep an open mind to my fanciful suggestion.

www.nationalrev iew.com/owens/owens200602130816.asp

Thanks for the post Scrapper. I'll check out the article. Party means nothing, but his actions do.

Peppa  posted on  2007-12-15   12:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)

but he's the wrong party.

At this point, what is the "right" party?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   12:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Peppa (#13)

No more 'inside' boys.

Jim Webb is the antithesis of an "inside boy".

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   12:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: iconoclast (#38)

Jim Webb is the antithesis of an "inside boy".

I don't know if he is or not. I'll have to do some reading about him.

Peppa  posted on  2007-12-15   13:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Peppa. the thread (#39)

I still like Napolitano for Veep (due to the face recognition for the bots out there), and Mr.Webb would seemingly be a fine AG.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   13:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lodwick (#40)

I still like Napolitano for Veep (due to the face recognition for the bots out there), and Mr.Webb would seemingly be a fine AG.

We're a long way from Tipperary. :)

Peppa  posted on  2007-12-15   13:26:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: iconoclast (#26)

Driving me nuts trying to remember his name.

Hell, it might be me!

Sodie Pop  posted on  2007-12-15   13:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: buckeye, Hayek Fan (#32)

What does the law say about party VP selection?

Seems to me that the practice in recent conventions is to have the Presidential nominee select his veep and that name is placed in nomination with the expressed wish that the veep nomination be approved unanimously.

However, I believe the delegates would have the perogative to ignore the "annointed" veep and select one that expressed the will of the party.

Help me out here.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   13:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lodwick (#40)

I still like Napolitano for Veep (due to the face recognition for the bots out there), and Mr.Webb would seemingly be a fine AG.

IMO, "one speech" Napolitano can't carry Jim Webb's jock.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   13:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Sodie Pop (#42)

Driving me nuts trying to remember his name.

Hell, it might be me!

LOL

I was thinking the same thing!

Mail me your name. ;-)

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   13:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: lodwick (#40)

I still like Napolitano for Veep (due to the face recognition for the bots out there)

Bots is the key word there.

I don't think the 29%'er Fox faithful are a very fertile field for RP converts.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   13:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: iconoclast (#43)

Seems to me that the practice in recent conventions is to have the Presidential nominee select his veep and that name is placed in nomination with the expressed wish that the veep nomination be approved unanimously.

However, I believe the delegates would have the perogative to ignore the "annointed" veep and select one that expressed the will of the party.

Help me out here.

I'm sorry but I cannot help as I do not know the ins and outs of how a VP candidate is chosen within either party.

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2007-12-15   15:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: scrapper2 (#0) (Edited)

Not a bad idea at all. That would be a killer ticket.

Let's go a step forward and consider RP's cabinet:

Secretary of Defense - Karen Kwiatowski
Director of CIA - Ray McGovern
Secretary of Treasury - Paul Craig Roberts
Secretary of State - Chalmers Johnson
Attorney General - Judge Neapolitano

Those are the big 5. Not bad, eh?

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Arator  posted on  2007-12-15   15:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Arator (#48)

Not a bad idea at all. That would be a killer ticket.

Let's go a step forward and consider RP's cabinet:

Secretary of Defense - Karen Kwiatowski Director of CIA - Ray McGovern Secretary of Treasury - Paul Craig Roberts Secretary of State - Chalmers Johnson Attorney General - Judge Neapolitano

Those are the big 5. Not bad, eh?

Nice!

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-15   15:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: scrapper2, Arator, the thread (#49)

The other great thing would be the cabinet positions that would no longer exist...

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   15:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: scrapper2 (#49)

Here come de Judge.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-15   15:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: lodwick, All (#50)

The other great thing would be the cabinet positions that would no longer exist...

Bingo! You win the prize for the most insightful political observation today!

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-15   15:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom (#51)

Here come de Judge.

I'm pretty flexible with regards to Judge Napolitano - either AG or VP.

Ditto for Jim Webb - either AG or VP.

Also on another thread California State Senator Tom McClintock's name came up. He is a traditional small government Republican. He might be worthy of consideration for a spot in RP's cabinet.

Disclaimer: Of course, everyone should remember that it's the Christmas joyful optimistic spirit in me musing aloud on this thread. I am well aware that RP's Prez campaign has several large hurdles to jump before we can realistically think about filling cabinet positions.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-12-15   15:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: scrapper2 (#53)

I am well aware that RP's Prez campaign has several large hurdles to jump before we can realistically think about filling cabinet positions.

A good dose of optimistic enthusiasm never hurt anyone. And I am a realist.

I enjoy looking over the horizon and appreciate others that do the same.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-15   15:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: scrapper2. the thread (#53)

I am well aware that RP's Prez campaign has several large hurdles to jump before we can realistically think about filling cabinet positions.

On another positive note, the campaign is closing in on the 12M goal for this quarter.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   15:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: scrapper2, Lodwick, All (#0)

Has Judge Napolitano had a mumbling word to say about the Ramos-Compean outrage?

I refer to the 11 year prison sentence given to the two border agents that shot an illegal alien drug smuggler in the ass?

If and when he does, ping me.

If he has, I'll apologize, but my deeply held opinion of this guy is that he is an attention seeking empty suit. He's part of that 99% of lawyers that give the other 1% a bad name.

PS ... the ahole in the White House gave Libby a pardon in a New York minute but has not seen fit to address himself to this miscarriage of justice. A Christmas pardon would have been obviously appropriate but was not included in the decider's list.

Oh, what's that you say? The Federal Prosecutor is a longtime Bush crony?

Oh, oh, could that possibly be the reason for silence on the part of both the Judge and the Prez?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2007-12-15   16:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: lodwick (#55)

Sir Lod...

I expect to donate more beer money on the 16th to the CAUSE.

I expect you to make a like sacrifice. hehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-15   16:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: iconoclast (#56)

Has Judge Napolitano had a mumbling word to say about the Ramos-Compean outrage?

He was on The Power Hour a few months ago, and I believe that he weighed in on that travesty, as well as several other abuses of the smirk regime...I'll see if the Tube has any clips on this matter.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   16:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Cynicom (#57)

I expect to donate more beer money on the 16th to the CAUSE.

I expect you to make a like sacrifice.

You'll have to step up for both of us tomorrow - we can't give any more to the campaign.

The RPBlimp and our local MUG are getting the spare booze bucks here in casita lodwick.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   16:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: lodwick (#59)

The RPBlimp and our local MUG are getting the spare booze bucks here in casita lodwick.

Giving until it hurts is necessary and giving my beer money hurts, to the core. Guess I could cut down on bread and bologna a bit.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-12-15   16:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Cynicom. RP donors here (#60)

Giving until it hurts is necessary and giving my beer money hurts, to the core. Guess I could cut down on bread and bologna a bit.

I feel your pain, Cyni - truly I do.

We'll just have to suck it up and do the best that we can for Dr.Paul.

Saturday evening 'cheers' back there.

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Lod  posted on  2007-12-15   17:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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